Backwards Windmill in Trailer : V - Skyrim

» Thu Feb 24, 2011 9:40 pm

I heard about this....can somebody explain to me whats wrong? I watched it and can't see how its going the wrong way

» Fri Feb 25, 2011 4:58 am

There's nothing wrong with it.

» Fri Feb 25, 2011 12:58 am

There's nothing wrong with it.

Nothing except the rotation lol. The sails are pulling the blades it seems.

» Thu Feb 24, 2011 7:29 pm

Nope. It really can only go one way, and it's backwards in the trailer.

Well, let me put it this way. If Nirn physics allow air to exert forces in the wrong direction, then why do the characters even have lungs?

Who says they have lungs ? they may drown due to other
reasons

» Thu Feb 24, 2011 2:08 pm

Nope. It really can only go one way, and it's backwards in the trailer.

Well, let me put it this way. If Nirn physics allow air to exert forces in the wrong direction, then why do the characters even have lungs?

Because a wizard did it...

» Thu Feb 24, 2011 6:45 pm

I heard about this....can somebody explain to me whats wrong? I watched it and can't see how its going the wrong way

The clip posted by Luke Skyrimmer is pretty relevant.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aM8PHGwGObI&feature=related

» Thu Feb 24, 2011 6:15 pm

Nothing wrong with the rotation. The blades are tilted in the correct direction for the windmill to move that way.

» Thu Feb 24, 2011 10:34 pm

Because a wizard did it...

You don't need a wizard. You could easily push the windmill to rotate the wrong way. But if we're meant to believe that this windmill is generating power, then no.

» Thu Feb 24, 2011 4:33 pm

according to physics, it should be going the other way

You cant apply real world physics in a game with dragons (which technically shouldn't fly) and magic.

» Fri Feb 25, 2011 2:46 am

You don't need a wizard. You could easily push the windmill to rotate the wrong way. But if we're meant to believe that this windmill is generating power, then no.

If by generating power you mean turning a grinding wheel, I'm not sure it matters which way it turns, as the gears will just move the grinding wheel in reverse. The grain would still get ground either way.

» Thu Feb 24, 2011 9:28 pm

If by generating power you mean turning a grinding wheel, I'm not sure it matters which way it turns, as the gears will just move the grinding wheel in reverse. The grain would still get ground either way.

You seem to be missing the point here. Regardless of which way the wind blows, that windmill can only rotate one way and generate power. If it's rotating the other way, then it's not a net source of power, which makes it perfectly useless.

» Fri Feb 25, 2011 3:11 am

You seem to be missing the point here. Regardless of which way the wind blows, that windmill can only rotate one way and generate power. If it's rotating the other way, then it's not a net source of power, which makes it perfectly useless.

The blades also look like they might be tilted outwards, in which case it is moving in the correct direction.

And I don't think I am missing the point. When you consider the simplicity of the gears inside a windmill, they're not that complicated. Nor do I see how moving it in the opposite direction would cause any loss of power. It's just turning the gears the other way, turning the grinding stone the other way. How does that result in a loss of power?

» Fri Feb 25, 2011 4:51 am

You seem to be missing the point here. Regardless of which way the wind blows, that windmill can only rotate one way and generate power. If it's rotating the other way, then it's not a net source of power, which makes it perfectly useless.

The windmill in the trailer isn't generating power... It's turning a grinding wheel.

» Thu Feb 24, 2011 7:40 pm

You seem to be missing the point here. Regardless of which way the wind blows, that windmill can only rotate one way and generate power. If it's rotating the other way, then it's not a net source of power, which makes it perfectly useless.

Are you assuming it's generating electricity? That's not what the old windmills were for, they directly powered a grinder to make flour. It wouldn't matter which way the grinder went.

» Thu Feb 24, 2011 5:52 pm

If they haven't fixed this problem by release I probably won't buy it.

» Thu Feb 24, 2011 4:42 pm

According to Earth physics. We don't know for sure that Nirn physics work the same way, now do we?

Unless stated otherwise, things are always assumed to be exactly like Earths. This is pretty much a staple of fantasy logic. You don't have to explain that humans in Nirn breathe some kind of other element or something, its just assumed that humans need oxygen. Its also assumed that gravity exists, or that people need to eat.

» Thu Feb 24, 2011 5:43 pm

according to physics, it should be going the other way

That windmill is in Tamriel, fluid dynamics work differently there.

» Fri Feb 25, 2011 6:43 am

If they haven't fixed this problem by release I probably won't buy it.

Serious or sarcastic?

» Fri Feb 25, 2011 12:08 am

:rofl:

If we had a "bethesda softworks meeting hall" and not a "bethesda softworks forum", someone would get punched in the face every day... and it wouldn't be about personal matters, it would be about the direction and airspeed volicity of a windmill sail.

» Fri Feb 25, 2011 12:26 am

If we had a "bethesda softworks meeting hall" and not a "bethesda softworks forum", someone would get punched in the face every day... and it wouldn't be about personal matters, it would be about the direction and airspeed volicity of a windmill sail.

They're probably joking about this already, I know I would

This and the please no spiders issue

» Thu Feb 24, 2011 4:29 pm

They're probably joking about this already, I know I would

This and the please no spiders issue

But the corn was serious, right?

» Fri Feb 25, 2011 2:51 am

Its the great backwards Windmill of (What town is this?).

Tourists come from all around to look at this anomaly and then.....look at something else! Was is created through some kind of ancient Thu'um magic called by a Greybeard? Did some dwemer create some kind of mechanical curiosity? Who knows?!

» Thu Feb 24, 2011 11:47 pm

Why is the windmill going backwards in the trailer?

Because most people probably aren't familiar with how windmills work IRL?

» Thu Feb 24, 2011 5:11 pm

Are you assuming it's generating electricity? That's not what the old windmills were for, they directly powered a grinder to make flour. It wouldn't matter which way the grinder went.

By generating power, I mean ANY form of power, including turning wheels, cogs, gears, and anything else. If it's causing something to move that otherwise wouldn't, it's generating power.

» Fri Feb 25, 2011 1:14 am

I hope they have fixed it. It's not the whole 'they are supposed to turn one way according to real life.' argument. It's the fact that due to how the blades are facing on that very windmill, it's rotating the wrong way. They need to swap directions, or rotate the blades.

Also, the blades are thin wooden planks... I hope they throw some cloth over them or something. It would be like a plane's wings only being the outlining metal, that wouldn't work, now would it?