As i was wandering through the capital wastes i entered fort constantines nuclear storage facility, only to find the walls lined with nuclear weapons that are really just the same as Megaton, the bomb i mean.

so WTF? why was an american bomb dropped on american soil? this changes everything!!!

Cheeper and quicker to just reuse things.

As I said in another thread, Megaton was likely built from parts of a crashed US bomber who crashed due to an accident or nuclear blast.

Ft. Constantine has nukes likely because China launched first. This matches with the only other source on who launched first, Prez. Richardson of Fallout 2 who, too, says China pushed the button first.

hmmm...trajectory and direction of the bomb make it look like the plane mustve crashed to the north. hmm...this can be brough up with the compton effect, the electronics of the plane went off when the nukes hit...hmmm...still baffling..

American Harrier jets are the same as British Harrier jets, built after the British design, only difference is the paint job. A bomb is a bomb, there's only so many ways you can design one, changing the fins a little, maybe, but that's about it. Not a lot of room for artistic flair when it comes to functional weapons. Maybe the Chinese stole the American blueprint for the bombs and followed it to a T. Maybe it was an American misfire, and God was watching and made sure it didn't blow. lol

More likely though, as has been said... saves time to just use what you have when putting the game together. I swear I've killed the same Raiders over and over... "WTH!? Are Raiders using cloning technology?"

... no... <_<

How do you know the chinese just stole the atomic bomb while the americans were at war with them? Its quite possible when you think about it... load it up into a bomber jet and the push of a release button later, WHOOPS, there goes D.C. Just like that. I still dont understand why we are at war with the chinese? Last time I checked they were freindly. But, who really cares, its just a game.

(If anyone really siad "its just a game" im sure many people including myself would say" no! it is a miracle that this game was created, for it is not just a game, but it is a gift from the lord above")

Fallout is set in an alternate timeline which diverged from ours in the 1950s.

If you want revenge you can launch the ICBM from Constantine.

ok mr leet man, but do you know where it even goes? i think its funny how theres also a crashed ICBM in DC, a dud obviously, but it let me go into the vault tec headquarters, if that thing went off, all of DC would be gone, GONE!!!

Not to mention the war happened over sixty years from now. So even if Bethesda had kept the timeline consistent with real life up until the time the game was made, it still doesn't mean that the situation couldn't have changed in decades after the present.

But I recall that one character explains that the bomb in Megaton is indeed from a crashed plane, and that parts salvaged from planes were used to build the walls and buildings (which explains why there are, in fact, recognizable bits of plane among it.) so it wouldn't surprise me if it was from an American plane that crashed before it got to China to drop off its deadly cargo. Of course, from a design standpoint, it is indeed easier to reuse the same assets instead of creating unique ones, so if you're going to design a nuclear bomb, why not use the same model multiple times in the game?

of course you can explain the planes crash with the EMP wave that nuclear weaponry makes.

so looks like a few things are dealt with, but then again, who exactly shot the ICBM that crashed in DC?

It's quite possible that the megaton bomb was lost rather than intentionally dropped. This would also explain why it wasn't fully armed before letting it fly.

Yeah it's Manya who talks about saluaging pieces of planes from a nearby station (air port) and that's how Megaton was built. I remember the conversation even though I haven't talked to her again since my first play-through, because she called them Air-Buses, which I thought was a cool thing, and laughed when I got it. "Ha ha, she doesn't know they were called planes." But then she blew that outta the water by saying planes a little later on in the convo. It made me go, "Hmm." It was the plane that made the crater... so no use looking for a crash site. Still doesn't all add up, when you think about it. What did they, take the plane apart around the bomb, and leave the bomb in the centre? Huh?

Regarding the Megaton nuke, atomic devices are covered in thick metal for a reason. They can't go off unless they are armed/primed/whatever the term is. The most logical thing I think is that is was from a US plane that crashed due to EMP. And it's not Chinese (at least, not originally) for it has the Vault-Tec logo on it.

Well from what Manya says, the planes used to build Megaton, weren't where Megaton is. There was an airport off to the north; which was swallowed up by the wasteland many years previous, after they'd taken the pieces, and dragged them to where Megaton is now. It's more than likely, they were just simple passenger airliners, rather than bombers but it's not out of question, that they could be bombers.

Anyway, in other previous threads (I dunno where, look them up for yourself,) on this, it's been theorized that the bomb in the center of the city, was lost and that since all hell was breaking loose at the time; there was no time to double think and find it. Also, the ICBM in the Washington, has also been theorized to have just been screwed up and fell out of the sky before it could be armed successfully?

Eh? What would the Compton Effect have to do with the plane going down? I think you're mistaking it with EMP, which is also caused by particle scattering. Still, technology in the FO world was vacuum-tube based, which is mostly immune to EMP.

That's not really an ICBM, it's a Delta IX rocket. Some were converted to carry warheads, but you can still see the crew compartments in that one (meaning it wasn't).

Where is this ICBM in D.C? I don't remeber seeing any in D.C. Can some one point this out?

yarrr

Pres richardson isn't omnicient..
But the Narrator is.....

still...what the heck??? what s a rocket doing in DC? and why was it irradiated? dont blame fuel, cant be.

well, if it fell, them maybe it happened to fall there. I'm guessing they want peoplet o guess about a few things in the game

during exposeure to radioactiviy most metals become radioactive.. Gold especially

so it absorbed radiation?

It's actually a rocket, and it's in Vernon Square (where the hotel and the hospital are)


Lol I'm afraid I'll have to blame fuel for this one after all... Pretty much everything there is powered by atomic power isn't it? :dance:
I'd guess some people tried to save themselves by going to space, but for some reason (maybe they were shot down for hijacking government property) crashed. There's nothing to back that up though :shrug:

sounds possible to me..
its either that or atomic powersource leak :shrugs:

Project Nuclear Whipping Boy, see The Simpsons archives.

A better question would be, If this building is full of Nuclear Bombs why have they not been looted over the last 200 years? The brotherhood and even the outcast would want them the Enclave as well. Hell supermutants would want them as well. I would want one. The Robots would not keep people way for 200 years.