[Monique Cameron]

Are you talking about the funskelett mesh? That's in Meshes/OE.

[C.L.U.T.C.H]

Yes that's the one. AAdragon should try deleting that and see what the results are.

[Nicole Mark]

Ok, 5.1.2 is causing me problems.

When I have it installed, Oblivion hangs at the first loading screen. I don't get the immediate CTD, it just...sits there. I have to Alt-Tab and end the process to get out of it.

Uninstalling 5.1.2 and going back to 5.1.1 fixes the issue.

Weird, huh?

[ijohnnny]

Did you make a clean save with just the BC ESM active before upgrading? If not, try doing this.
Are you using any other ESPs which are dependent on BC but which we didn't create? If you are, one of them may not be compatible with v5.1.2, try disabling all such mods and see, and if this is the case, let the author of that mod know they need to release an update.

[Sudah mati ini Keparat]

Are you using any other ESPs which are dependent on BC but which we didn't create? If you are, one of them may not be compatible with v5.1.2, try disabling all such mods and see, and if this is the case, let the author of that mod know they need to release an update.

Duh, of course. I have one I made myself that patches onto BC, I'm sure that thats the problem, especially if you altered NPCs.

Totally forgot about that.

[Andrew Perry]

It might be the problem, or it might not. Only if I edited something for this release which your ESP also touches would it be the cause.

[Alex [AK]]

Duh, of course. I have one I made myself that patches onto BC, I'm sure that thats the problem, especially if you altered NPCs.

Totally forgot about that.

So? Did that resolve the problem for you? I wait impatiently for your return!

[GabiiE Liiziiouz]

So? Did that resolve the problem for you? I wait impatiently for your return!

Oh, sorry. I haven't even had a chance to look into it. I've just reverted to 5.1.1 for now, it will be a few more days before I can free up enough time to actually dive into that.

[kristy dunn]

Does anyone have a download link to 5.1.1
or would be willing to upload their 5.1.1 files?

[Elizabeth Davis]

Does anyone have a download link to 5.1.1
or would be willing to upload their 5.1.1 files?

Nobody has permission to upload any English version of the mod for public access. Anyone uploading an earlier version of Better Cities for public access would be severely frowned upon by the majority of the TES community.

Instead of trying to get ahold of an outdated version of the mod which is no longer supported, how about explaining exactly what's wrong, what parts of BC you're using, what other mods you're using, and finding the cause of the problem so it can possibly be fixed?

[Ownie Zuliana]

I got a new computer recently so I've been installing oblivion and many mods. loading each mod through the oblivion mod manager and testing it before installing the next mod.
It was going pretty fine until I tried to install the better cities. and when I load oblivion and it shows the bethesda studios/zenimax media, after a few seconds the game stops responding and then I have to alt tab and click close/cancel on the not responding pop up.

when un-ticking the better cities (all 3+the side parts to it) the game runs fine. But i'd really like to know how to fix it.

I've tried it with just oblivion.esm and the better cities and it still crashes upon startup, so its not a problem with other mods.

[Lizzie]

Again, state what parts of BC you're using. Just saying all 3 plus the side parts tells me nothing. Which are all 3, and which are the side parts?

[Lucie H]

better cities resources
better cities full
better imperial city
better cities full fps patch
better imperial city fps patch
better cities - vwd of the IC
better cities - no LEYAWIIN flooding
better cities - open better cities
better cities

tried it with and without the fps patches and the optional changes. still causes same issue

[.X chantelle .x Smith]

Any OBSE or Texture replacers loaded??

[Jamie Lee]

qarls texture pack

[Lance Vannortwick]

Are you using the UOP?, what version?

[Louise]

3.2.0

[vanuza]

Try uninstalling the resource archives and see whether the game will run without them.
Try with just the ESM.
Try with just the ESM and better cities full.
Try with just the ESM and better imperial city.

[Queen]

just tired all 3 and it still crashes

[Benjamin Holz]

Seriously, give more information if you expect us to try to help. You just tried all three what?

[KU Fint]

So? Did that resolve the problem for you? I wait impatiently for your return!

Alright, I determined that it was definitely my patches causing the problem, and looking over the 5.1.2 changelog, I'm betting its this that did it:

-All AI packages set to Wander "In Cell" without a specific target changed to use a specific target after being told that Wander "In Cell" is bugged and doesn't work as intended.

Easy to fix, just a tad time consuming.

[Pete Schmitzer]

Okay good, so that's one down, one to go for resolving 5.1.2 not working!

[Eliza Potter]

I uninstalled the resource archives and tried with just the esm. then with the better cities full. and then with imperial city. but it still crashes each time.

[Peter P Canning]

So with just the following load order, the game still crashes before reaching the main menu at game start?
Oblivion.esm
Better Cities Resources.esm

[OJY]

I uninstalled the resource archives and tried with just the esm. then with the better cities full. and then with imperial city. but it still crashes each time.

Try deleting your Oblivion.ini file, and see if it works. This file is usually located in My Documents/My Games/Bethesda Softworks/Oblivion/ or some similar path. If you use a UI replacer mod (Dark UI etc.), you should reinstall that after deleting your ini file.