[Silvia Gil]

Hello all,

I have tried to install BC on 3 seperate occasions and everytime the same thing happens.

I am using OBMM and am making 3 seperate OMODs for the resources and master, and still this happens.


http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e264/19MUSTANG83/Oblivion2010-06-2612-36-18-35.jpg

http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e264/19MUSTANG83/Oblivion2010-06-2612-34-45-80.jpg

I follow the read me, and this still happens, missing meshes, and messed up exteriors of cities, like archers falling out of the sky.

Any ideas on how to fix this?

Simon

[Matthew Aaron Evans]

Hello all,

I have tried to install BC on 3 seperate occasions and everytime the same thing happens.

I am using OBMM and am making 3 seperate OMODs for the resources and master, and still this happens.


http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e264/19MUSTANG83/Oblivion2010-06-2612-36-18-35.jpg

http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e264/19MUSTANG83/Oblivion2010-06-2612-34-45-80.jpg

I follow the read me, and this still happens, missing meshes, and messed up exteriors of cities, like archers falling out of the sky.

Any ideas on how to fix this?

Simon

Read the installation instructions more carefully, why are you creating three OMODs?

[Dominic Vaughan]

I didn't know whether posting it in this thread was the best choice, but it's the one that made the most sense to me. Sorry if it's not the right place, and of course, feel free to tell me where it should be.

Anyway, I just noticed that this time (with this install) I seem to be missing some water in the Bathing House (BC IC).

http://img130.imageshack.us/g/201ne.jpg/ are some screenshots. The first is the only truly relevant one, but I thought I'd throw the other two in, just to show that the rest of it seems to be fine, and looking nice as ever.

What have I done / not done?

I have/had the same issue with that area too. One day it was fine next with out changing anything as far as I know it was black water. I say had that problem because I don't go in there since it doesn't seem important to me.

[Skivs]

Read the installation instructions more carefully, why are you creating three OMODs?

Well how many should I have? 2? Is there OMOD scripts for the resources or just the BC itself?


Thanks.

[Kellymarie Heppell]

Well how many should I have? 2? Is there OMOD scripts for the resources or just the BC itself?


Thanks.

Read the installation instructions.

[Kill Bill]

Well how many should I have? 2? Is there OMOD scripts for the resources or just the BC itself?

Correct, Two.
One for the Cities and one for the resources

The two parts of the resources need to be compiled into one before you can use them: http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1093401-relz-bananasplits-better-cities-thread-34/page__view__findpost__p__16075786

[Lloyd Muldowney]

Got a problem I had before when using a mod ''guard six'' I had it loading in the wrong place and it caused my IC to sink, what was a while ago and I'm no longer using that but it would seem that another mod or something is causing it to happen again

http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o271/nability/Oblivion2010-06-3001-11-07-03.jpg
http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o271/nability/Oblivion2010-06-3001-10-25-53.jpg
http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o271/nability/Oblivion2010-06-3001-09-53-16.jpg
http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o271/nability/Oblivion2010-06-3001-09-35-18.jpg
http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o271/nability/Oblivion2010-06-3001-08-41-07.jpg
http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o271/nability/Oblivion2010-06-3001-07-11-75.jpg

I haven't added anything (I don't think) so I guess it's a load order problem again, so if someone could tell me what's wrong and what's wrong so I can fix it would be nice

Spoiler

= Check ModsThis is a report on your currently active/merged mods.=== MergeableFollowing mods are active, but could be merged into the bashed patch.* SW01Minus.esp=== NoMerge Tagged ModsFollowing mods are tagged NoMerge and should be deactivate and imported into the bashed patch but are currently active.* Atmospheric Loading Screens - Random Quotes.esp=== Active Mod Files:* 00  Oblivion.esm* 01  Cobl Main.esm  [Version 1.72]* 02  Jog_X_Mod.esm* 03  All Natural Base.esm  [Version 0.9.9.5]* 04  MD_Saddle_Master.esm* 05  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm  [Version 1.34]* 06  Mart's Monster Mod.esm  [Version 3.7b3p3]* 07  Mart's Monster Mod for OOO.esm  [Version 0.9.9MB3]* 08  CyrodiilUpgradeResourcePack.esm* 09  TamrielTravellers.esm  [Version 1.39c]* 0A  Kvatch Rebuilt.esm* 0B  Better Cities Resources.esm* 0C  CM Partners.esm* 0D  HorseCombatMaster.esm* 0E  UnnecessaryViolence.esm* **  TNR ALL RACES FINAL.esp* **  TNR - ShiveringIsles no helms.esp* 0F  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [Version 3.2.4]* 10  UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp  [Version 1.0.0]* 11  Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp* 12  DLCShiveringIsles.esp* 13  Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp  [Version 1.4.0]* 14  SM Plugin Refurbish - SI.esp  [Version 1.05]* 15  Better Cities .esp* 16  Atmospheric Loading Screens - Random Quotes.esp* ++  ln.esp* 17  Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esp* ++  Symphony of Violence.esp* 18  All Natural - Real Lights.esp  [Version 0.9.9.5]* 19  All Natural.esp  [Version 0.9.9.5]* 1A  All Natural - SI.esp  [Version 0.9.9.5]* 1B  Enhanced Water v2.0 HD.esp* ++  Item interchange - Extraction.esp  [Version 0.78]* 1C  Bedrollsanyone.esp* 1D  Storms & Sound.esp* 1E  WindowLightingSystem.esp* 1F  AmbientTownSounds.esp* 20  AliveWaters.esp* 21  AliveWaters - Koi Addon.esp* 22  AliveWaters - Slaughterfish Addon.esp* 23  Akatosh Mount By Saiden Storm.esp* 24  ClocksOfCyrodiil_BC_OBC_OC_OCLR_Vanilla.esp* 25  LKF_EY_Vampirehunter.esp* 26  Days&Months.esp* 27  Luchaire's Neck Seam Concealer.esp* 28  RAEVWD Cities.esp  [Version 1.7]* 29  RAEVWD New Sheoth.esp  [Version 1.5]* 2A  RAEVWD Imperial City.esp  [Version 1.7]* 2B  Enhanced Economy.esp  [Version 3.4.3]* ++  Cobl Tweaks.esp  [Version 1.44]* 2C  Crowded Roads Advanced.esp  [Version 1.3]* 2D  FF_Horse_Whistle.esp* ++  OOO-Water_Weeds.esp  [Version 1.33]* 2E  Choices and Consequences.esp  [Version 2.02]* ++  Mart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]* 2F  Duke Patricks - Semi Unlimited Rings And Amulets.esp* ++  Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]* 30  Map Marker Overhaul.esp  [Version 3.4]* ++  Mart's Monster Mod - Less Bone Loot.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]* 31  Map Marker Overhaul - SI additions.esp  [Version 3.0.2]* ++  Mart's Monster Mod - Less Rats.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]* 32  HentaiChinaDress.esp* ++  Mart's Monster Mod - More Passive Wildlife.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]* ++  Mart's Monster Mod - Friendlier Factions OOO.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]* ++  Mart's Monster Mod - Slof Horses Complete.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]* 33  tona_simple_dress-armor_ver3.esp* 34  tona_simple_dress-armor_ver3 Patch.esp* ++  TamrielTravellerAdvscript.esp  [Version 1.40Alpha]* ++  Travellers4MMMHostileFactions.esp  [Version 1.39c]* 35  Gloria Armor.esp* 36  Bleachcaptaincapes.esp* 37  MD Saddlebags v3.0.esp* ++  ShiveringIsleTravellersFriendlyFactions4MMM.esp  [Version 1.39c]* ++  PersuasionOverhaul_OOO.esp  [Version 1.2]* 38  HorseSpeedEqualsPlayerSpeed.esp* ++  PersuasionOverhaul_MMM.esp  [Version 1.2]* 39  DesuChan's Macabre Dancer.esp* ++  MMM-Cobl.esp  [Version 1.69]* 3A  realmasamune.esp* 3B  FF7 Weapons.esp* ++  Kvatch Rebuilt - OOO Compatibility.esp* **  Kvatch Rebuilt Weather Patch.esp* 3C  Nicos Gift.esp* 3D  Cobl Glue.esp  [Version 1.72]* 3E  Cobl Si.esp  [Version 1.63]* 3F  OOO 1.32-Cobl.esp  [Version 1.72]* 40  moDem's City Life - BP Compat.esp* 41  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp  [Version 1.34]* 42  Choices and Consequences - OOO.esp  [Version 2.0]* 43  Mart's Monster Mod for OOO.esp  [Version 0.9.9MB3]* 44  Mart's Monster Mod - Additional Enemy NPC Vars.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]* 45  Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]* 46  Mart's Monster Mod - Dungeons of MMM.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]* 47  Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]* 48  Mart's Monster Mod - Extra Wounding.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]* 49  Mart's Monster Mod - Farm Animals.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]* 4A  Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse WaterLife.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]* ++  Short Grass V3.esp* 4B  TamrielTravellers4OOO.esp  [Version 1.39c]* 4C  TamrielTravellersItemsCobl.esp  [Version 1.39c]* 4D  ShiveringIsleTravellers.esp  [Version 1.39c]* 4E  Enhanced Quest Roleplaying.esp* 4F  Hentai Mania.esp* 50  JolardHome.esp* 51  GlenvarCastle.esp* 52  Return Of Shadows.esp  [Version 1.03]* 53  TheElderCouncil.esp* 54  TheElderCouncil_TempleOfTheOne.esp* 55  thievery.esp* ++  SM_OOO.esp  [Version 0.89]* 56  thievery - EE patch.esp  [Version 1.0]* 57  Apachii_Goddess_Store.esp* 58  RTT.esp* ++  SM_MMM.esp  [Version 0.89]* 59  RTT-Weye Relocation Patch.esp  [Version 2.0]* ++  SM_COBL.esp  [Version 0.86]* 5A  The Lost Spires.esp* 5B  Simple Essentials beta2.esp* 5C  AFK_Weye.esp* ++  SM_VanillaSpells.esp  [Version 0.86]* ++  SM_UnlockSpells.esp  [Version 0.70]* 5D  Mighty Umbra.esp* ++  SM_NoSpellLights.esp  [Version 0.70]* 5E  Blood&Mud.esp* ++  SM_Scrolls.esp  [Version 0.84]* 5F  Blood&Mud - EE patch.esp  [Version 1.0]* 60  road+bridges.esp  [Version 4.5.4]* ++  SM_SigilStone.esp  [Version 0.83]* 61  xuldarkforest.esp  [Version 1.0.4]* 62  LostSpires-DarkForest patch.esp* 63  MMMMWL-TheHeath patch.esp* ++  SM_DeadlyReflex.esp  [Version 0.86]* 64  RenGuardOverhaul.esp* 65  RenGuardOverhaulShiveringIsles.esp* 66  LostSpires-Everglade patch.esp  [Version 1.2]* 67  TheElderCouncil-FallenleafEverglade patch.esp  [Version 1.2]* ++  Item interchange - Placement.esp  [Version 0.78]* 68  xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp  [Version 1.2.1]* ++  Item interchange - Option, Ingredients in Bulk, reduced.esp  [Version 0.78]* 69  xulChorrolHinterland.esp  [Version 1.2.2]* ++  Mart's Monster Mod - Resized Races.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]* 6A  xulLushWoodlands.esp  [Version 1.3]* **  _Ren_BeautyPack_full.esp* 6B  xulRollingHills_EV_withoutWheat.esp  [Version 1.3.2]* 6C  MMMMWL-RollingHills patch.esp* ++  TamrielTravellers Cosmetics Cobl or RBP.esp* 6D  xulRiverEthe.esp  [Version 1.0.2]* ++  bgMagicItemSigil.esp  [Version 1.68EV]* 6E  DATiamsGirls.esp* ++  bgMagicEVAddEnVar.esp  [Version 1.68EV]* ++  bgBalancingEVOptionalClasses.esp  [Version 9.0EV-U]* 6F  xulImperialIsle.esp  [Version 1.6.3]* 70  xulBlackwoodForest.esp* 71  xulCheydinhalFalls.esp  [Version 1.0.1]* 72  Blood&Mud-CheydinhalFalls patch.esp* ++  bgBalancingEVOptionalFangs.esp  [Version 10.0EV-D]* ++  bgBalancingEVOptionalMoreEyes.esp  [Version 10]* ++  bgBalancingEVOptionalFCOMAdditions.esp  [Version 10.]* 73  xulAspenWood.esp  [Version 1.0.1]* **  bgBalancingOptionalNPCDiversityKvatchRebuilt, for Wrye Bash.esp  [Version 9.0EV-D]* 74  EVE_ShiveringIslesEasterEggs.esp* 75  Dungeon Actors Have Torches 1.6 DT.esp* 76  Exterior Actors Have Torches 1.3 DT.esp* 77  PersuasionOverhaul.esp  [Version 1.43]* 78  Salmo The Baker v2.0.esp  [Version 2.06]* 79  Sonia.esp* **  bgMagicEVShader.esp  [Version 1.7EV]* 7A  Salmo the Baker, Cobl.esp  [Version 3.08]* 7B  Side's Backpacks.esp* ++  Cobl Filter Late MERGE ONLY.esp  [Version 1.53]* 7C  Side's Backpacks (COBL).esp* 7D  Storms & Sound - AFK_Weye.esp* **  All Natural - Indoor Weather Filter For Mods.esp  [Version 0.9.9.5]* ++  Duke Patricks - BASIC Script Effect Silencer.esp* 7E  Storms & Sound - Blood&Mud.esp* 7F  Storms & Sound - The Lost Spires.esp* 80  Storms & Sound - Better Cities.esp* 81  Roleplaying Dialogues.esp* 82  Alternative Start by Robert Evrae.esp* 83  RealisticFatigue.esp* 84  RealisticHealth.esp* 85  RealisticForceMedium.esp* 86  RealisticMagicForceMedium.esp* 87  Shads Water Bucket Plus.esp* 88  SupremeMagicka.esp  [Version 0.90]* 89  SM_ShiveringIsles.esp  [Version 0.86]* 8A  SM_EnchantStaff.esp  [Version 0.80]* 8B  MidasSpells.esp* 8C  StealthOverhaul.esp* 8D  ZumbsLockpickingMod - OBSE.esp* 8E  ZumbsLockpickingMod - Hide Difficulty Addon.esp* 8F  bgMagicEV.esp  [Version 1.7EV]* 90  DeadlyReflex 5 - Combat Moves.esp* 91  Deadly Reflex - Breathing Motion & Head Bobbing.esp* 92  Duke Patricks - Near Miss Magic And Arrows Alert The Target.esp* 93  Oblivion XP.esp  [Version 4.1.5]* 94  Let There Be Darkness - Cyrodiil + SI.esp* 95  Nec Mystic High Elf-Remake.esp  [Version 1.0]* 96  Sharingan and Uchiha Clan.esp* 97  X.Races.Comp.esp* 98  CM Partners.esp* 99  CM Partners NPC.esp* 9A  CM Partners Extra NPCs.esp* 9B  Colourwheels sixy Tifa.esp* 9C  DARaewyn.esp* 9D  bgBalancingEVCore.esp  [Version 10.52EV-D]* 9E  bgMagicLightningbolt.esp* 9F  bgMagicEVPaperChase.esp  [Version 1.68EV]* A0  bgMagicAlchemy.esp  [Version 1.57]* A1  bgIntegrationEV.esp  [Version 0.993]* A2  Better Cities - Full City Defences.esp* A3  Better Cities Full - B&M Edition.esp* A4  Better Cities - Ruined Tail's Tale.esp* A5  BCChorrol-ChorrolHinterland fix.esp* A6  BCCheydinhalFULLB&M-CheydinhalFalls patch.esp* A7  Better Cities - No LEYAWIIN Flooding.esp* A8  BCSkingrad-SkingradOutskirts patch.esp* A9  Better Cities Full - B&M Edition FPS Patch.esp* AA  Better Imperial City.esp* AB  Better Imperial City FPS Patch.esp* AC  Better Cities - COBL.esp  [Version 2]* AD  MiniMap.esp* AE  Kvatch Rebuilt.esp* AF  KvatchRebuilt-CheydinhalFalls patch.esp* B0  UnnecessaryViolence.esp* **  bgBalancingEVOptionalNPCDiversity, TNR Merge.esp  [Version 10.0EV-D]* B1  NRB4 Standard Road Record.esp* B2  Cobl Silent Equip Misc.esp  [Version 01]* B3  Duke Patricks - Combat Archery.esp  [Version 1.9.1]* B4  DMCWeapons.esp* B5  Bashed Patch, 0.esp* B6  SW01Minus.esp* B7  Streamline 3.1.esp

EDIT:

BTW it's v4-5-1 and will update to the latest once this is fixed.

EDIT EDIT:

Errmm.....I just saw the message you get in IC Market if it's a load order problem so I started to fiddle and the problem fixes is Better Imperial City.esp loads after the bash patch which I know should not be, so that bit of info hopefully should help to resolve this.

[Samantha Jane Adams]

Got a problem I had before when using a mod ''guard six'' I had it loading in the wrong place and it caused my IC to sink, what was a while ago and I'm no longer using that but it would seem that another mod or something is causing it to happen again

http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o271/nability/Oblivion2010-06-3001-11-07-03.jpg
http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o271/nability/Oblivion2010-06-3001-10-25-53.jpg
http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o271/nability/Oblivion2010-06-3001-09-53-16.jpg
http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o271/nability/Oblivion2010-06-3001-09-35-18.jpg
http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o271/nability/Oblivion2010-06-3001-08-41-07.jpg
http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o271/nability/Oblivion2010-06-3001-07-11-75.jpg

I haven't added anything (I don't think) so I guess it's a load order problem again, so if someone could tell me what's wrong and what's wrong so I can fix it would be nice

Spoiler

= Check ModsThis is a report on your currently active/merged mods.=== MergeableFollowing mods are active, but could be merged into the bashed patch.* SW01Minus.esp=== NoMerge Tagged ModsFollowing mods are tagged NoMerge and should be deactivate and imported into the bashed patch but are currently active.* Atmospheric Loading Screens - Random Quotes.esp=== Active Mod Files:* 00  Oblivion.esm* 01  Cobl Main.esm  [Version 1.72]* 02  Jog_X_Mod.esm* 03  All Natural Base.esm  [Version 0.9.9.5]* 04  MD_Saddle_Master.esm* 05  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm  [Version 1.34]* 06  Mart's Monster Mod.esm  [Version 3.7b3p3]* 07  Mart's Monster Mod for OOO.esm  [Version 0.9.9MB3]* 08  CyrodiilUpgradeResourcePack.esm* 09  TamrielTravellers.esm  [Version 1.39c]* 0A  Kvatch Rebuilt.esm* 0B  Better Cities Resources.esm* 0C  CM Partners.esm* 0D  HorseCombatMaster.esm* 0E  UnnecessaryViolence.esm* **  TNR ALL RACES FINAL.esp* **  TNR - ShiveringIsles no helms.esp* 0F  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [Version 3.2.4]* 10  UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp  [Version 1.0.0]* 11  Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp* 12  DLCShiveringIsles.esp* 13  Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp  [Version 1.4.0]* 14  SM Plugin Refurbish - SI.esp  [Version 1.05]* 15  Better Cities .esp* 16  Atmospheric Loading Screens - Random Quotes.esp* ++  ln.esp* 17  Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esp* ++  Symphony of Violence.esp* 18  All Natural - Real Lights.esp  [Version 0.9.9.5]* 19  All Natural.esp  [Version 0.9.9.5]* 1A  All Natural - SI.esp  [Version 0.9.9.5]* 1B  Enhanced Water v2.0 HD.esp* ++  Item interchange - Extraction.esp  [Version 0.78]* 1C  Bedrollsanyone.esp* 1D  Storms & Sound.esp* 1E  WindowLightingSystem.esp* 1F  AmbientTownSounds.esp* 20  AliveWaters.esp* 21  AliveWaters - Koi Addon.esp* 22  AliveWaters - Slaughterfish Addon.esp* 23  Akatosh Mount By Saiden Storm.esp* 24  ClocksOfCyrodiil_BC_OBC_OC_OCLR_Vanilla.esp* 25  LKF_EY_Vampirehunter.esp* 26  Days&Months.esp* 27  Luchaire's Neck Seam Concealer.esp* 28  RAEVWD Cities.esp  [Version 1.7]* 29  RAEVWD New Sheoth.esp  [Version 1.5]* 2A  RAEVWD Imperial City.esp  [Version 1.7]* 2B  Enhanced Economy.esp  [Version 3.4.3]* ++  Cobl Tweaks.esp  [Version 1.44]* 2C  Crowded Roads Advanced.esp  [Version 1.3]* 2D  FF_Horse_Whistle.esp* ++  OOO-Water_Weeds.esp  [Version 1.33]* 2E  Choices and Consequences.esp  [Version 2.02]* ++  Mart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]* 2F  Duke Patricks - Semi Unlimited Rings And Amulets.esp* ++  Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]* 30  Map Marker Overhaul.esp  [Version 3.4]* ++  Mart's Monster Mod - Less Bone Loot.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]* 31  Map Marker Overhaul - SI additions.esp  [Version 3.0.2]* ++  Mart's Monster Mod - Less Rats.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]* 32  HentaiChinaDress.esp* ++  Mart's Monster Mod - More Passive Wildlife.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]* ++  Mart's Monster Mod - Friendlier Factions OOO.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]* ++  Mart's Monster Mod - Slof Horses Complete.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]* 33  tona_simple_dress-armor_ver3.esp* 34  tona_simple_dress-armor_ver3 Patch.esp* ++  TamrielTravellerAdvscript.esp  [Version 1.40Alpha]* ++  Travellers4MMMHostileFactions.esp  [Version 1.39c]* 35  Gloria Armor.esp* 36  Bleachcaptaincapes.esp* 37  MD Saddlebags v3.0.esp* ++  ShiveringIsleTravellersFriendlyFactions4MMM.esp  [Version 1.39c]* ++  PersuasionOverhaul_OOO.esp  [Version 1.2]* 38  HorseSpeedEqualsPlayerSpeed.esp* ++  PersuasionOverhaul_MMM.esp  [Version 1.2]* 39  DesuChan's Macabre Dancer.esp* ++  MMM-Cobl.esp  [Version 1.69]* 3A  realmasamune.esp* 3B  FF7 Weapons.esp* ++  Kvatch Rebuilt - OOO Compatibility.esp* **  Kvatch Rebuilt Weather Patch.esp* 3C  Nicos Gift.esp* 3D  Cobl Glue.esp  [Version 1.72]* 3E  Cobl Si.esp  [Version 1.63]* 3F  OOO 1.32-Cobl.esp  [Version 1.72]* 40  moDem's City Life - BP Compat.esp* 41  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp  [Version 1.34]* 42  Choices and Consequences - OOO.esp  [Version 2.0]* 43  Mart's Monster Mod for OOO.esp  [Version 0.9.9MB3]* 44  Mart's Monster Mod - Additional Enemy NPC Vars.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]* 45  Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]* 46  Mart's Monster Mod - Dungeons of MMM.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]* 47  Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]* 48  Mart's Monster Mod - Extra Wounding.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]* 49  Mart's Monster Mod - Farm Animals.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]* 4A  Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse WaterLife.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]* ++  Short Grass V3.esp* 4B  TamrielTravellers4OOO.esp  [Version 1.39c]* 4C  TamrielTravellersItemsCobl.esp  [Version 1.39c]* 4D  ShiveringIsleTravellers.esp  [Version 1.39c]* 4E  Enhanced Quest Roleplaying.esp* 4F  Hentai Mania.esp* 50  JolardHome.esp* 51  GlenvarCastle.esp* 52  Return Of Shadows.esp  [Version 1.03]* 53  TheElderCouncil.esp* 54  TheElderCouncil_TempleOfTheOne.esp* 55  thievery.esp* ++  SM_OOO.esp  [Version 0.89]* 56  thievery - 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EDIT:

BTW it's v4-5-1 and will update to the latest once this is fixed.

EDIT EDIT:

Errmm.....I just saw the message you get in IC Market if it's a load order problem so I started to fiddle and the problem fixes is Better Imperial City.esp loads after the bash patch which I know should not be, so that bit of info hopefully should help to resolve this.

Well not sure you need to load it after the bashed patch but at least after everything else and notably Kvacht Rebuilt. For the rest you need to make sure none of them alters the IC in any way. the easy way to see that is simply to be in any district and check if you have our city map or the regular Cyrodiil Map you are currently using. Out map only covers the IC so it is very easy to see.

[Josh Trembly]

Got a problem I had before when using a mod ''guard six'' I had it loading in the wrong place and it caused my IC to sink, what was a while ago and I'm no longer using that but it would seem that another mod or something is causing it to happen again.

Start by running BOSS (Better Oblivion Sorting Software) on your load order (always a good idea that.) And read through the BOSS list for any useful tips/notes.
Better Cities does best run very late in the load order though.

Oh, and take the advice of that printout you gave; deactivating those mods suggested (shouldn't be affecting this I don't think, but still a good idea.)

[Claire Mclaughlin]

Updated BOSS and ran it and that done the trick, not sure what could of been different though as it's always BOSS I use to sort my load order abd the only reason Kvatch was that low in the list is because it's been causing me a few problems....but it's sorted now ether way thanks guys

[Charlie Sarson]

hi all.

I am getting my new machine ready for Oblivion, have BC installed and am interested in TIE. I know that you all have a pach for tie, but they have come out with a NEW VERSION now, version 1.35.

from the tie thread.
http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1092981-relz-tamriel-immersion-experience-tie/page__st__20

Posted Yesterday, 11:19 AM

1.35 RELEASE!!!

and i noticed veritas still reads this forum, so i'd like to thank him for making and developing this mod. it's one of my all time favorite.

have a beer!

Still OK to use BC patch? or will you all now have to make another patch for tie?

thanks.....freestone

[kennedy]

hi all.

I am getting my new machine ready for Oblivion, have BC installed and am interested in TIE. I know that you all have a pach for tie, but they have come out with a NEW VERSION now, version 1.35.

from the tie thread.
http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1092981-relz-tamriel-immersion-experience-tie/page__st__20



Still OK to use BC patch? or will you all now have to make another patch for tie?

thanks.....freestone

We worked hard to make TIE compatible with BBC, OBC and OCC so we sure hope it is still compatible.

As a matter of fact the BC patch for TIE is not really a patch (as for fixing conflict issues) but more taking advantage of a feature only available in TIE aka the warning zones for thievery. What it does is add the same warning zones introduced in TIE in some (only) of the interiors created by BC.

The same thing is done with the patch for COBL which only takes advantage of the scripting for the wells to enable all the wells introduced in BC to be drank of if needed.

[Tha King o Geekz]

As a matter of fact the BC patch for TIE is not really a patch (as for fixing conflict issues) but more taking advantage of a feature only available in TIE aka the warning zones for thievery. What it does is add the same warning zones introduced in TIE in some (only) of the interiors created by BC.

No longer some (only), but several now. I added the warning zones to every interior from BC where it was suitable to add them.

[Elea Rossi]

hello!... i've been avoiding this for a while now... even expecting a patch to be made espontaously, but... well, it seems that not that much people use "origins of the mages guild".
personally, this is one of my base mods, along with fcom and cobl and a few more.

yes I know what Arthmoor is going to say: that i should be working on a patch for all natural-real lights/thieves arsenal/extinguish lights instead of playing, but it turns out that the interiors of the Arcane University are also touched by these three mods, in adittion to the changes introduced by BetterCities-Arcane University AND origin of the mages guild. so...

i was wondering if there might be a patch planned for Better Cities - Arcane University and Origins of the Mages Guild wich when combined cause an inmediate CTD upon entering the ICTheArcaneUniversity worldspace. (and a fair ammount of other quirknesses when anolyzed from different perspectives, not only this single cell)

[noa zarfati]

uh... ok, it seems, that i cannot edit my own messages....right....

well, after a quick search i found that uhmm... the guy who made OMG was banned from here too!? hahaha, good lord!
well... that is really unfortunate, not because of him, but because i really like OMG and Elder Council and wish things had not gone the wrong way with it's author....
so... i don't know.... if you want to do the patch for the fun of it, i'd be more than pleased. if not, for any reason at all, i ...don't really care, i was just wondering if it could be done.

[Rich O'Brien]

uh... ok, it seems, that i cannot edit my own messages....right....

well, after a quick search i found that uhmm... the guy who made OMG was banned from here too!? hahaha, good lord!
well... that is really unfortunate, not because of him, but because i really like OMG and Elder Council and wish things had not gone the wrong way with it's author....
so... i don't know.... if you want to do the patch for the fun of it, i'd be more than pleased. if not, for any reason at all, i ...don't really care, i was just wondering if it could be done.

You should really ask him (the guy behind OMG) what he thinks about patches and patching his mod for any other mod. If he says it is ok (ahahah) then... Who am I kidding, it's never going to happen. But you should really hear him tell you why.

[Sophie Louise Edge]

You should really ask him (the guy behind OMG) what he thinks about patches and patching his mod for any other mod. If he says it is ok (ahahah) then... Who am I kidding, it's never going to happen. But you should really hear him tell you why.

Well... as a matter of fact, i did managed to contact him a few years ago regarding Arcane University 300 (remember that one? was abandoned halfway through). well, some friends asked me if i could try to make something out of it so i started working on it. fixed quite a lot of stuff almost barehanded, there was no tes4edit or tes4gecko... just the old buggy CS...well i don't want to bore you to death with that story... the important thing is that when i asked him "what's with this cupboard?" and some stuff about the strange pathgrid in the second floor, he...... i mean, i did ask him nicely, maybe he's the sensitive type, i don't know... i just dropped the whole thing unreleased as there was no way with the current tools i could grasp the whole spectrum of this mod without some advice from it's creator. so... yes i did try. that does'nt mean i do not like his mod, in fact, i think the arcane university, and the mages guild as a whole, is in dire need of a real overhaul, not just a pretty face, but for reasons beyond my comprehension modders have always avoided this and players don't seem to realize how dull the mages guild really is, and how great it could be. i started to notice this with OMG, and has always been eager to find "someone else" that stands out and say, hey, THIS is the mages guild. for this mod i think has already served its purpose of giving us the glimpse we needed. and with the ammount of problems involved with it and it's author, one thing is certain: WE NEED MORE!

[Dina Boudreau]

Well... as a matter of fact, i did managed to contact him a few years ago regarding Arcane University 300 (remember that one? was abandoned halfway through).

That mod was made by a completely different author.

The mod author in question is not a desirable topic of conversation here. If you want to speak with him, head over to his private site and register on his forums. Just don't believe anything you read there. For example, it states on his site that Arthmoor (who didn't do what is claimed he did do) is a member of the BC team. Arthmoor is not, and never has been a member of the BC team. He has never been involved and has never made any edits to BC ever.

Up until the latest version of OMG, BC was fully compatible with OMG. I have made tweaks and adjustments in BC to ensure this. However the latest version of OMG will be fully incompatible, so if you wish to use it, do NOT use BC IC Arcane University.

No more talk about him or his mods in this thread now, please

[Jordyn Youngman]

I just had a query about making a compatibility patch for Leyawiin Harbor (I also add docks to Leyawiin) so I'd like to install just that part - is that possible? I'm asking before downloading in case it's possible to get a subset for just what I need.

[KiiSsez jdgaf Benzler]

That mod was made by a completely different author.

The mod author in question is not a desirable topic of conversation here. If you want to speak with him, head over to his private site and register on his forums. Just don't believe anything you read there. For example, it states on his site that Arthmoor is a member of the BC team. Arthmoor is not, and never has been a member of the BC team. He has never been involved and has never made any edits to BC ever.

Up until the latest version of OMG, BC was fully compatible with OMG. I have made tweaks and adjustments in BC to ensure this. However the latest version of OMG will be fully incompatible, so if you wish to use it, do NOT use BC IC Arcane University.

No more talk about him or his mods in this thread now, please

Sorry for bringing this up again, but I was a bit unsure on your phrasing. Is BC IC AU fully incompatible with the current version of omg or planned versions of omg?.
I play with the current version of omg and bc ic au and haven't noticed any major incompatibles besides a overlapped bench or two or is it the 4th era feature of omg thats causing problems?

Just never mind, a trip to the IC market revealed the incompatibilities .
Second question then...Is it possible to merge the other BC IC plugins except BC IC AU in order to save some esp slots?

[Catharine Krupinski]

I just had a query about making a compatibility patch for Leyawiin Harbor (I also add docks to Leyawiin) so I'd like to install just that part - is that possible? I'm asking before downloading in case it's possible to get a subset for just what I need.

Patches are for everyone to make. So please do patch if needed.

We do not have any subset. It would be too difficult to maintain the required resources for each part of the mod. You can however only install the Leyawiin City esp.

May He Who Must Not Be Named perish in a bath of his own stupidity.

[Czar Kahchi]

Sorry for bringing this up again, but I was a bit unsure on your phrasing. Is BC IC AU fully incompatible with the current version of omg or planned versions of omg?.
I play with the current version of omg and bc ic au and haven't noticed any major incompatibles besides a overlapped bench or two or is it the 4th era feature of omg thats causing problems?

Just never mind, a trip to the IC market revealed the incompatibilities .
Second question then...Is it possible to merge the other BC IC plugins except BC IC AU in order to save some esp slots?

With regards the crossed out query, did you ensure that the BC IC ESP is loading AFTER OMG? BC IC does have to load after ANY other mod which edits the IC worldspaces. Just moving the ESP might resolve whatever conflicts you saw in the Market District (or not, if OMG actually adds new features to this District too).
I haven't taken a proper look at the latest release or two of OMG yet, but it is indeed the 4th era features of OMG which will conflict without doubt. What I don't know without looking, is whether there are conflicting edits made to the AU which will appear before triggering the 4th era events from OMG. It's quite possible that OMG might be compatible up until you begin that stage of the mod.

You can merge any combination of the BC IC ESPs you want using TES4Gecko, we have range-fixed the Form IDs in each separate ESP to ensure they do not change when merged. If you use the FPS patches for the IC, you will also need to merge the corresponding combination of these ESPs too.

[Davorah Katz]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lSW2pPlZF-M

[matt oneil]

I have something unclear - do I still have to install the Ruined Tails Tail Patch although the RTT version is 3.01 ?

[Tracey Duncan]

Hello,

Not sure if its from BBC, but got a http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk145/koki373737/ScreenShot32.jpg on IC Waterfront

Thanks!