[Jay Baby]

Your mod will need to be dependent on our ESM, and must redirect the parent worldspace of every IC District you edit (except Waterfront) to Tamriel2.

Thanks for the tip about the waterfront. Everything looks fine now.

Metallicow

[Tiff Clark]

Hi,

I found what I think is an error in one of the dialog result scripts in "Better Cities Resources.esm". The FormId is 9456, where the result script is "SetStage 00BMTCShackQuest 10".

The problem is that "00BMTCShackQuest" is no existing quest, so the dialog topic will not compile. I assume it should say "SetStage BANBravilShackQuest 10" instead.

Edit: The same problem is for the formId 9450 as well.

[Rob Smith]

Take a lulz at this!
http://img44.imageshack.us/img44/2532/screenshot35hs.jpg

2 towers over Skingrad...

Active Mod Files:00  Oblivion.esm01  You Are Here.esm02  All Natural Base.esm  [Version 0.9.7]03  Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm04  Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm05  Cobl Main.esm  [Version 1.71]06  Qarls_Harvest.esm07  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm  [Version 1.34]08  Mart's Monster Mod.esm  [Version 3.7b3p3]09  CyrodiilUpgradeResourcePack.esm0A  TamrielTravellers.esm  [Version 1.39c]0B  FCOM_Convergence.esm  [Version 0.9.9MB3]0C  Armamentarium.esm  [Version 1.2.2]0D  Kvatch Rebuilt.esm0E  Better Cities Resources.esm0F  Progress.esm  [Version 2.2]10  TR_OoT_Main.esm11  HorseCombatMaster.esm12  UnnecessaryViolence.esm13  OBSE-Storms & Sound SI.esp.esp14  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [Version 3.2.0]15  DLCShiveringIsles.esp16  Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp  [Version 1.4.0]17  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp18  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp19  Francesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.esp1A  Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp1B  Francesco's Dark Seducer Weapons Patch.esp1C  FCOM_Francescos.esp  [Version 0.9.9]1D  FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp  [Version 0.9.9]1E  FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp  [Version 0.9.9]1F  Fran Armor Add-on.esp20  Atmospheric Loading Screens - 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[CHangohh BOyy]

Hi,

I found what I think is an error in one of the dialog result scripts in "Better Cities Resources.esm". The FormId is 9456, where the result script is "SetStage 00BMTCShackQuest 10".

The problem is that "00BMTCShackQuest" is no existing quest, so the dialog topic will not compile. I assume it should say "SetStage BANBravilShackQuest 10" instead.

Edit: The same problem is for the formId 9450 as well.

Thanks for that, the quests were indeed renamed. I'll correct the result scripts for our next release

Take a lulz at this!
http://img44.imageshack.us/img44/2532/screenshot35hs.jpg

2 towers over Skingrad...

You've got "FormID Finder4.esp", I suggest you use it to find which mod placed those up there.

[Chloé]

You've got "FormID Finder4.esp", I suggest you use it to find which mod placed those up there.

No go

It was a faulty LOD generation that screwed it... (Tes4LODGen)
Re-ran it and it now works

[Chris Ellis]

Installed the full 4.3.8 with city defenses yesterday, noticed some FPC drop but negligible (maintain 17-25 at Streamline & Stutter Remover 15-30, so I can live with this ).

So far visited Chorrol & Leyawiin and am deeply impressed.

However, found out I forgot to ask about impeREAL Empire - Unique castles - Merged.esp. Should I deactivate it for full BC experience or keep it?

[Lory Da Costa]

Installed the full 4.3.8 with city defenses yesterday, noticed some FPC drop but negligible (maintain 17-25 at Streamline & Stutter Remover 15-30, so I can live with this ).

So far visited Chorrol & Leyawiin and am deeply impressed.

However, found out I forgot to ask about impeREAL Empire - Unique castles - Merged.esp. Should I deactivate it for full BC experience or keep it?

Disable - all the unique city castles have been incorporated into Better Cities, so using both would be redundant, would have a needless excess impact on FPS, and might cause visual glitches in-game when viewing the castles

[Alyesha Neufeld]

Im just trying to identify some graphical anomalies. there is a large straight seam where the terrain mismatches with the Let The People Drink mod near the south side of the auquaduct.

I originally thought that the seam was an incompatibility between Better Cities and Let The People Drink, which would be strange considering how high profile both of these are, and that there is actually a BC patch for LTPD compatibility.

Well now I think I know the answer! I loaded up my new list without the Grey Tide house-ship mod (which adds a dock and ship at the east end of the Waterfront dock)...and there is no more seam! Its neither BC nor LTPD. Its the http://oblivionsrealestate.com/Water_Homes_Challenge/water_homes_challenge.html that is incompatible with one or both of the former. Grey Tide IS an excellent mod, and the incompatibility seems to be merely the visual terrain seam mismatch. I suspect that the author moved some of the shoreline on the opposite bank of the port.

Here is a pic of the seam.

http://i752.photobucket.com/albums/xx170/Snowball_99/ScreenShot5.jpg
http://i752.photobucket.com/albums/xx170/Snowball_99/ScreenShot7.jpg

This is just to clear up the matter and reaffirm that BC and LTPD have no terrain issue mismatch

[April D. F]

I originally thought that the seam was an incompatibility between Better Cities and Let The People Drink, which would be strange considering how high profile both of these are, and that there is actually a BC patch for LTPD compatibility.
...

Oh; That's quite different!
There ARE some slight texture and seaming imperfections with LtPD (all by itself) but nothing like that. Glad to hear that you cleared your problem up though.

[Wanda Maximoff]

http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=16513

The most exciting feature in this new release is certainly the ability to travel from port to port now thanks to Better Cities. For this, you will need to go into the Port Authority of each Harbour and ask for your ticket. The travel itself is done from interior to interior so our Vampire "friends" wont get caught into the sun. (Those who use drink/food/sleep mods will probably die on trips going or coming from Anvil so better not use those).

Otherwise a new replacer was created for "http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=3849" most definitely to clean the mod and enhance its compatibility with UL Cheydinhal Falls as well as Better Cities. As for all replacers, you still need to download the mod to have the resources (voices in this case) included with it.

Enjoy!!!

[hannah sillery]

Thanks. I started BBC 5 days ago and love every minute of it so far and already update! :celebration: :hugs: :bolt:

[Danel]

Thanks for the new version.

A question about doors to the player-owned houses. BBC replaces the door to the player house in Bruma, but that is the only one right? And is the formID of the new door is the same for Better Cities full, and Better Cities Bruma?

[Kaylee Campbell]

Thanks for the new version.

A question about doors to the player-owned houses. BBC replaces the door to the player house in Bruma, but that is the only one right? And is the formID of the new door is the same for Better Cities full, and Better Cities Bruma?

Yes, I believe that is the only one, and yes, the Form ID will be identical in Better Cities Bruma, Better Cities Full, and Better Cities Full B&M.

[Jessica Colville]

Yes, I believe that is the only one, and yes, the Form ID will be identical in Better Cities Bruma, Better Cities Full, and Better Cities Full B&M.

Thanks. I'm adding house tax as a feature to Enhanced Economy, and the result of not paying taxes is that the door to your house will be locked, so I need to get the right formID to lock for full BC compatibilities.

The most exciting feature in this new release is certainly the ability to travel from port to port now thanks to Better Cities. For this, you will need to go into the Port Authority of each Harbour and ask for your ticket. The travel itself is done from interior to interior so our Vampire "friends" wont get caught into the sun. (Those who use drink/food/sleep mods will probably die on trips going or coming from Anvil so better not use those).

Real Sleep Extended will recognize that a time jump has happened, and not make the player more tired. RSE will only make players more tired if the time jump is initiated from the Map Menu (i.e. Fast Travel), so with your port-port travel, the player will arrive with the same tiredness status as she started.

I also believe kuertee's Eat and Sleep mod has similar detection and therefore work fine with this, but I believe most other realism mods may have the problem you state.

[Monika Krzyzak]

Real Sleep Extended will recognize that a time jump has happened, and not make the player more tired. RSE will only make players more tired if the time jump is initiated from the Map Menu (i.e. Fast Travel), so with your port-port travel, the player will arrive with the same tiredness status as she started.

I also believe kuertee's Eat and Sleep mod has similar detection and therefore work fine with this, but I believe most other realism mods may have the problem you state.

Good, I'm pleased that at least some realism mods address these issues

[Unstoppable Judge]

Before anyone else spots it, I'll report a missing mesh in Better Cities In Bravil Docks there is a shop named Kashmir's Fresh Fish. For the latest release we added a sign to the front of the building, unfortunately I entered the path to locate the mesh incorrectly, so while the mesh does exist in the BC Complement BSA, it won't appear in-game. I'll correct this for our next release!

[Zach Hunter]

im updating from 4.3.2 to the 4.4.0 one. i downloaded them from nexus today. for some reason the omod script doesnt seem to be working. i recently updated to windows 64 so im not sure if thats the issue or what.

the better cities esps seems to install fine as i get the questions about installing extras and everything however it doesnt fill in the info like it normally does when making the omod. the resources pack on the other hand neither fills in the info nor does it seem to install the better cities esp file. i had to manually install it and im still getting mesh errors ingame. thanks for any help.

edit: i just checked the omod script and it doesnt seem to include the better cities esp on initial install.

[Stephanie Nieves]

im updating from 4.3.2 to the 4.4.0 one. i downloaded them from nexus today. for some reason the omod script doesnt seem to be working. i recently updated to windows 64 so im not sure if thats the issue or what.

the better cities esps seems to install fine as i get the questions about installing extras and everything however it doesnt fill in the info like it normally does when making the omod. the resources pack on the other hand neither fills in the info nor does it seem to install the better cities esp file. i had to manually install it and im still getting mesh errors ingame. thanks for any help.

edit: i just checked the omod script and it doesnt seem to include the better cities esp on initial install.

If you updated from the 4.3.2 version you didn't have to change the main resources as they are still the same as from version 4.3.2. So the omod script didn't change since then and it does install the Better Cities .esp properly ( CopyPlugin "00 Core\\Better Cities .esp" "Better Cities .esp" )

For the esp archive, what do you call the extras?, what do you can the fill in infos? As far I can tell and by the lack of complaints, everything seems fine.

[Nikki Morse]

If you updated from the 4.3.2 version you didn't have to change the main resources as they are still the same as from version 4.3.2.

Then why is there a Resources Update From 4-3-2 to 4-4-0? The description says its required.

http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=16513

[Sophie Miller]

Then why is there a Resources Update From 4-3-2 to 4-4-0? The description says its required.

http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=16513

the resources pack on the other hand

You asked about the resources pack, not the resource update

The resource update doesn't include the "Better Cities .esp" file as it is in the resource pack (which you should already have installed), so it wouldn't have been mentioned in the OMOD script.

It is an UPDATE, not a replacement file, so you install it AFTER having the main resource pack installed. Follow the installation instructions carefully and you'll see that you are never instructed to uninstall the main resource pack before installing the update.

EDIT
Hold on, it isn't even your problem Snowball99! You're causing confusion here!

reallybigjohnson asked about the resources pack, not the resources update.

[Lisa]

ok thanks. yeah i unpacked the main file into a folder and overwrote the files with the update which also overwrote the script. i just peeked and noticed they are different scripts. thanks again.

as for trhe fill in info thing thats probably something im used to from other mods. i have so many omods that it gets a bit confusing as to which ones at the name and version info and which ones dont.

[Michelle Chau]

I was pleased to notice that with BBC installed I have much better light indoors.

I never installed any of the Illumination Within series and now I see I've missed a lot.

As happy as I am with my new lights indoors I have to ask:
Will the lights indoors if I add any Illumination Within (Revived Retrofitted was my guess) mod or it would be redundant?

Thanks again for this great mod!

[Fam Mughal]

I was pleased to notice that with BBC installed I have much better light indoors.

I never installed any of the Illumination Within series and now I see I've missed a lot.

As happy as I am with my new lights indoors I have to ask:
Will the lights indoors if I add any Illumination Within (Revived Retrofitted was my guess) mod or it would be redundant?

Thanks again for this great mod!

Illumination Within doesn't alter the interior lights as far I know. It is just there to put some lights on the windows at night. But for that I would suggest you use http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=19628 which is compatible with everything (as long it uses vanilla buildings meshes) and without any FPS hit in contrary to Illumination Within.

[Rachell Katherine]

Illumination Within doesn't alter the interior lights as far I know. It is just there to put some lights on the windows at night. But for that I would suggest you use http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=19628 which is compatible with everything (as long it uses vanilla buildings meshes) and without any FPS hit in contrary to Illumination Within.

Heh!
Too late, Ismelda, I'm using your wonderful mod since its release!

Thanks for the advice, I'll restrain further from IWR and carry on using AWLS.

[Jacob Phillips]

Hey all,

I'm posting here since I "think" my missing meshes involve Better Cities, but I'm a nub when it comes to this stuff so I could be wrong. Anyway, I'm missing meshes in Anvil, Bravil, and so far found one missing in the IC Market District:

http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb135/loodichris/AnvilMissingMeshes.jpg
http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb135/loodichris/BravilMissingMeshes.jpg
http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb135/loodichris/ICMarketMissingMesh.jpg

Here's my load order:

Masters for: Bashed Patch, 0.esp00  Oblivion.esm01  GTAesgaard_2.esm02  Windfall.esm03  TR_OoT_Main.esm04  All Natural Base.esm  [Version 0.9.7]05  Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm06  Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm07  Cobl Main.esm  [Version 1.72]08  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm  [Version 1.34]09  Mart's Monster Mod.esm  [Version 3.7b3p3]0A  Enhanced Daedric Invasion.esm0B  CyrodiilUpgradeResourcePack.esm0C  TamrielTravellers.esm  [Version 1.39c]0D  FCOM_Convergence.esm  [Version 0.9.9MB3]0E  Armamentarium.esm  [Version 1.3]0F  Artifacts.esm10  Kvatch Rebuilt.esm11  Better Cities Resources.esm12  CM Partners.esm13  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [Version 3.2.3a]14  Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp  [Version 1.4.0]15  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp16  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp17  Francesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.esp18  Francesco's Optional Leveled Quests-SI only.esp19  Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp++  Francesco's Dark Seducer Weapons Patch.esp++  FCOM_Francescos.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp  [Version 0.9.9]1A  FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp  [Version 0.9.9]1B  Fran Armor Add-on.esp1C  Fran_Lv30Item_Maltz.esp1D  All Natural - Real Lights.esp  [Version 0.9.7]**  All Natural.esp  [Version 0.9.7]++  All Natural - EW + NW + AWS.esp  [Version 0.9.6]++  Gates To Aesgaard 2 Weather Patch.esp++  Kvatch Rebuilt Weather Patch.esp1E  Ayleid Loot EXtension.esp1F  ClocksOfCyrodiil_BC_OBC_OC_OCLR_Vanilla.esp++  Item interchange - Extraction.esp  [Version 0.76]20  BetterMusicSystem.esp21  personality_idles4.esp22  Choices and Consequences.esp23  C&C - The Blackwood Company.esp**  DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]24  DLCOrrery.esp**  DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.3]25  DLCVileLair.esp**  DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]26  DLCMehrunesRazor.esp27  DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.4]28  DLCSpellTomes.esp++  DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.1]++  MaleBodyReplacerV4.esp29  Armory of the Silver Dragon.esp2A  SentientWeapon.esp  [Version 3]2B  tda_Armoury.esp2C  Thieves Arsenal.esp2D  AncientTowers.esp2E  DLCThievesDen.esp2F  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]**  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp  [Version 1.0.4]30  KDCircletsOOOOptimized - NPC Equip.esp  [Version 1.2]++  FCOM_KDCircletsOOOOptimizedNPCEquip.esp  [Version 0.9.9]31  Slof's Oblivion Robe Trader.esp**  OOO 1.32-Cobl.esp  [Version 1.72]++  FCOM_Cobl.esp  [Version 0.9.9]32  Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp33  FCOM_BobsArmory.esp  [Version 0.9.9]34  Loth's Blunt Weapons for Npcs.esp++  FCOM_LothsBluntWeapons.esp  [Version 0.9.9]35  Oblivion WarCry EV.esp36  FCOM_WarCry.esp  [Version 0.9.9MB3]**  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp  [Version 1.34]37  RealitySpectreStars2HeavenBetterPotionsOOOEffects.esp++  ArmamentariumLLVendors.esp  [Version 1.3]38  ArmamentariumArtifacts.esp  [Version 1.3]39  Mart's Monster Mod - Additional Enemy NPC Vars.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]3A  FCOM_Convergence.esp  [Version 0.9.9Mb3]3B  FCOM_RealSwords.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]3C  Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Slof Horses Complete.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Runeskulls Loot.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]3D  TamrielTravellers4OOO.esp  [Version 1.39c]++  ShiveringIsleTravellersFriendlyFactions4MMM.esp  [Version 1.39c]++  FCOM_TamrielTravelers.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_DiverseGuardUnity.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_BobsGuardUnity.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_Archery.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_FriendlierFactions.esp  [Version 0.9.9]3E  TIE In.esp  [Version 1.2b]**  TIE In - FCOM Convergence.esp  [Version 1.2b]++  TIE In - RealSwords.esp  [Version 1.2b]++  TIE In - MMM Craft.esp  [Version 1.2b]++  TIE In - DiverseGuardUnity.esp  [Version 1.2b]++  TIE In - BobsGuardUnity.esp  [Version 1.2b]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  ArmamentariumLL4OOO.esp  [Version 2.0]**  C&C - The Blackwood Company - OOO.esp++  MMM-Cobl.esp  [Version 1.69]++  EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer4FCOM.esp3F  Enhanced Quest Roleplaying.esp++  Enhanced Quest Roleplaying - OOO.esp++  Enhanced Quest Roleplaying - FCOM.esp40  Castle Ravenpride.esp  [Version 1.01]41  Ivellon.esp  [Version 1.8]**  Artifacts.esp++  Artifacts - ArmaCompleteAddon.esp  [Version 0.20]42  Castle_Dunkerlore_V1.esp43  (DC) Sutch Reborn.esp44  Gift of Kynareth.esp45  GTAesgaard.esp46  HeartOftheDead.esp  [Version 6.0.1]++  Kvatch Rebuilt - OOO Compatibility.esp47  GlenvarCastle.esp48  Malevolent.esp49  Scribe Supplies.esp4A  The Ayleid Steps.esp  [Version 2.6.1]++  All Natural - Real Lights - The Ayleid Steps Patch.esp  [Version 1.0]4B  TheElderCouncil.esp4C  TheElderCouncil_TempleOfTheOne.esp4D  TheForgottenShields.esp4E  TR_Stirk.esp4F  VaultsofCyrodiilBC.esp50  WeaponsOfTheNine.esp  [Version 2.2]51  Windfall.esp52  DLCBattlehornCastle.esp53  DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.4]54  DLCfrostcrag.esp55  Knights.esp56  Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.9]57  TOTF.esp++  TOTF Delayer.esp58  The Lost Spires.esp59  AFK_Weye.esp5A  Mighty Umbra.esp5B  Blood&Mud.esp5C  Lost Paladins of the Divines.esp5D  Origin of the Mages Guild.esp  [Version 6.2]5E  The Mystery of the Dulan cult.esp5F  HoarfrostCastle.esp++  FCOM_MightyUmbra.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_Knights.esp  [Version 0.9.9Mb3]++  FCOM_SlofsRobeTrader.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_OMGSRT.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_EnhancedDaedricInvasion.esp  [Version 0.9.9]60  ElsweyrAnequina.esp61  road+bridges.esp  [Version 4.4.4]62  bartholm.esp++  FCOM_UnofficialFranArmorAddon.esp  [Version 0.9.9]63  Harvest [Flora].esp  [Version 3.0.0]++  Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp  [Version 3.0.0]++  Harvest [Flora] - DLCVileLair.esp  [Version 3.0.0]64  Salmo the Baker, Cobl.esp  [Version 3.08]++  ScriptIcon_Replacer.esp65  Quest Award Leveller.esp  [Version 2.0.1]++  Quest Award Leveller - Vile Lair.esp  [Version 2.1.0]++  Quest Award Leveller - Mehrunes Razor.esp  [Version 2.1.0]++  Quest Award Leveller - Knights of the Nine.esp  [Version 2.1.0]66  Alternative Start by Robert Evrae.esp67  MidasSpells.esp++  EnchantmentRestore_Wells.esp68  RenGuardOverhaul.esp69  DeadlyReflex 5 - Combat Moves.esp6A  Legendary Abilities-Fortify Health MOJ.esp6B  Grandmaster of Alchemy.esp++  Item interchange - Placement for FCOM.esp  [Version 0.76]++  Item interchange - Placement for Frostcrag Reborn.esp  [Version 0.76]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Resized Races.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]6C  bgBalancingEVCore.esp  [Version 10.5EV-D]6D  bgMagicEV.esp  [Version 1.7EV]++  bgMagicSpellTomes_for_WryeBash.esp  [Version 1.68EV]++  bgMagicItemSigil.esp  [Version 1.68EV]++  bgMagicEVAddEnVar.esp  [Version 1.68EV]**  bgBalancingEVOptionalNPCDiversity, TNR Merge.esp  [Version 10.0EV-D]++  bgBalancingEVOptionalFCOMAdditions.esp  [Version 10.]**  bgBalancingOptionalNPCDiversityKvatchRebuilt, for Wrye Bash.esp  [Version 9.0EV-D]6E  bgIntegrationEV.esp  [Version 0.962]**  Better Cities - Full City Defences.esp6F  Better Cities Full - B&M Edition.esp**  Better Cities - No LEYAWIIN Flooding.esp70  Better Imperial City.esp**  bgMagicEVShader.esp  [Version 1.7EV]**  NRB4 Standard Road Record.esp++  Cobl Filter Late MERGE ONLY.esp  [Version 1.53]**  All Natural - Indoor Weather Filter For Mods.esp

I should add: reinstalling Better Cities did not fix this unfortunately. Any suggestions would be most appreciated.

Thanks!