[Relz] Bananasplit's Better Cities - Thread 37 : IV - Oblivion

» Wed May 18, 2011 3:55 am

It's a function of WBash. After rebuilding the patch the results are displayed as part of the bash log.
Content Checker:

? When activated, this will check the inventory contents of containers, creatures and NPCs, and the entries of leveled lists to make sure that their entries are of valid types. E.g. it will try to ensure that leveled spell lists only contain spells and other leveled lists.

? If items/entries of incorrect type are found, then they are removed from the container/list. The patch report will list any containers/lists modified and what was removed from them.

Better Imperial City.esp is part of BBC, right?
If you need anymore info, let me know. Maybe I should ask this in the WBash forum?

Yes, ask in the WBash forum, then when you know what it means you can come back and explain it more fully so that we'll understand what it's all about and how it relates to us

There are no levelled lists in "Better Imperial City.esp" and there is nothing in BC with an Editor ID beginning "cob", sounds more like it's from Cobl to me. Also, assuming those are Form IDs (minus the first two digits) that you're listing, none of those Form IDs exist in "Better Imperial City.esp" either, so it sounds very much like this Contents Checker thing isn't working right.

» Wed May 18, 2011 5:22 am

This is a repost (as suggested by Arthmoor) of a recent unresolved conflict that cropped up between All Natural and Better Cities. It is located in the Bruma Chapel of Talos.

http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/3785/anbadwindows.jpg

The above image illustrates the problem, some of the windows that are supposed to be transparent with All Natural are being reverted to non-transparent meshes by Better Cities. As I learned from running the windows through FormID Finder, AN's transparent windows function as a replacer (that is, the windows themselves are tied to Oblivion.ESM). The non-transparent windows, however, are tied to Better Cities Resources.ESM, and thus AN's replaced vanilla windows are being overwritten by BC's.

Spoiler

Active Mod Files:00  Oblivion.esm01  TR_OoT_Main.esm02  All Natural Base.esm  [Version 1.0]03  Cobl Main.esm  [Version 1.73]04  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm  [Version 1.34]05  Mart's Monster Mod.esm  [Version 3.7b3p3]06  Mart's Monster Mod for OOO.esm  [Version 0.9.9MB3]07  Kvatch Rebuilt.esm08  Better Cities Resources.esm  [Version 4.7.1]09  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [Version 3.2.10]0A  Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp0B  DLCShiveringIsles.esp0C  Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp  [Version 1.4.0]0D  Better Cities .esp0E  All Natural - Real Lights.esp  [Version 1.0]0F  All Natural.esp  [Version 1.0]10  All Natural - SI.esp  [Version 1.0]11  Enhanced Water v2.0 HD.esp++  Enhanced Water v2.0 HD - SI Addon.esp  [Version 0.1]++  Symphony of Violence.esp12  Rainbows.esp13  Akatosh Mount By Saiden Storm.esp++  Item interchange - Extraction.esp  [Version 0.76]14  kuerteeSittableRocks.esp15  Enhanced Economy.esp  [Version 4.2.1]16  DLCHorseArmor.esp**  DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]17  DLCOrrery.esp**  DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.3]18  DLCVileLair.esp19  DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]1A  DLCMehrunesRazor.esp1B  DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.4]1C  DLCSpellTomes.esp++  DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.1]1D  DLCThievesDen.esp**  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]1E  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp  [Version 1.0.4]1F  Cobl Glue.esp  [Version 1.73]20  Cobl Si.esp  [Version 1.63]21  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp  [Version 1.34]22  OOO 1.32-Cobl.esp  [Version 1.72]23  Mart's Monster Mod for OOO.esp  [Version 0.9.9MB3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Less Bone Loot.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Less Rats.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod for OOO - LessReaversInGates.esp  [Version 0.9.9MB3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Spawn Rates - Reduced.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]24  Mart's Monster Mod - Safer Quest Locations.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]25  Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Friendlier Factions OOO.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]26  Mart's Monster Mod - Farm Animals.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]27  Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse WaterLife.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3f]++  MMM-Cobl.esp  [Version 1.73]28  Kvatch Rebuilt.esp++  Kvatch Rebuilt - OOO Compatibility.esp29  Kvatch Rebuilt Weather Patch.esp2A  TR_Stirk.esp2B  DLCBattlehornCastle.esp2C  DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.4]2D  DLCfrostcrag.esp2E  FrostcragRebornCobl.esp2F  Knights.esp30  Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.10]++  Mart's Monster Mod for OOO - Knights .esp  [Version 0.9.9MB3]31  The Lost Spires.esp32  MannimarcoRevisited.esp33  MannimarcoRevisitedOOO.esp  [Version 0.1]34  ElsweyrAnequina.esp35  xuldarkforest.esp  [Version 1.0.4]36  LostSpires-DarkForest patch.esp37  xulStendarrValley.esp  [Version 1.2.2]38  xulTheHeath.esp39  MMMMWL-TheHeath patch.esp3A  XulEntiusGorge.esp3B  xulFallenleafEverglade.esp  [Version 1.3.1]3C  LostSpires-Everglade patch.esp  [Version 1.2]3D  Anequina-Fallenleaf-Patch.esp3E  xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp  [Version 1.2.1]3F  xulChorrolHinterland.esp  [Version 1.2.2]40  xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp  [Version 1.6.4]41  xulBravilBarrowfields.esp  [Version 1.3.2]42  xulLushWoodlands.esp  [Version 1.3]43  xulAncientYews.esp  [Version 1.4.3]44  xulAncientRedwoods.esp  [Version 1.6]45  xulCloudtopMountains.esp  [Version 1.0.3]46  xulArriusCreek.esp  [Version 1.1.3]47  xulPatch_AY_AC.esp  [Version 1.1]48  xulRollingHills_EV.esp  [Version 1.3.2]49  MMMMWL-RollingHills patch.esp4A  xulPantherRiver.esp4B  xulRiverEthe.esp  [Version 1.0.2]4C  xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp  [Version 1.0.2]4D  xulImperialIsle.esp  [Version 1.6.3]4E  xulBlackwoodForest.esp  [Version 1.0.4]4F  xulCheydinhalFalls.esp  [Version 1.0.1]50  KvatchRebuilt-CheydinhalFalls patch.esp51  xulAspenWood.esp  [Version 1.0.2]52  xulSkingradOutskirts.esp  [Version 1.0.1]53  xulSnowdale.esp  [Version 1.0]54  SnowdaleOOOPatch.esp55  FrostcragReborn-Snowdale patch.esp56  Harvest [Flora].esp  [Version 3.0.0]++  Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp  [Version 3.0.0]++  Harvest [Flora] - DLCVileLair.esp  [Version 3.0.0]57  Harvest [Flora] - DLCFrostcrag.esp  [Version 3.0.0]58  kuerteeInventoryIsABackpack.esp59  RealisticFatigue.esp5A  RealSleepExtended.esp  [Version 2.4.1]5B  SupremeMagicka.esp  [Version 0.89]5C  SM_ShiveringIsles.esp  [Version 0.86]++  SM_DLCSpellTome.esp  [Version 0.80]++  SM_OOO.esp  [Version 0.89]++  SM_MMM.esp  [Version 0.89]++  SM_COBL.esp  [Version 0.86]5D  SM_EnchantStaff.esp  [Version 0.80]++  SM_UnlockSpells.esp  [Version 0.70]++  SM_Scrolls.esp  [Version 0.84]++  SM_SigilStone.esp  [Version 0.83]5E  SM Bounty.esp  [Version 1.22c]++  CoblDeathFix.esp  [Version 1.20]5F  BetterBlocking.esp  [Version 3]60  Oblivion XP.esp  [Version 4.1.5]**  Let There Be Darkness - Cyrodiil + SI.esp**  Let There Be Darkness - Knights.esp**  Let There Be Darkness - Mehrunes Razor.esp**  Let There Be Darkness - Thieves Den.esp**  Let There Be Darkness - OOO.esp**  Let There Be Darkness - Kvatch Rebuilt.esp**  Let There Be Darkness - Lost Spires.esp**  Let There Be Darkness - Elsweyr.esp**  Let There Be Darkness - UL Colovian Highlands.esp**  Let There Be Darkness - UL Lost Coast.esp**  Let There Be Darkness - UL Brena.esp**  Let There Be Darkness - UL Blackwood Forest.esp++  Item interchange - Placement.esp  [Version 0.76]++  Item interchange - Placement for Frostcrag Reborn.esp  [Version 0.76]61  Better Cities Full.esp  [Version 4.7.0]62  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Barrowfields.esp  [Version 4.7.0]63  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Chorrol Hinterland.esp  [Version 4.7.0]64  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Cheydinhal Falls.esp  [Version 4.7.0]65  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Skingrad Outskirts.esp66  Better Cities - VWD of the IC.esp  [Version 4.7.0]67  Better Imperial City.esp  [Version 4.7.0]68  Better Imperial City FPS Patch.esp  [Version 4.7.0]69  Better Cities - COBL.esp  [Version 2.1]6A  Better Cities Full FPS Patch.esp  [Version 4.7.0]6B  Enhanced Economy - Soulgems.esp  [Version 4.2.1]6C  Real Hunger, Cobl.esp  [Version 1.6.1]++  Cobl Filter Late MERGE ONLY.esp  [Version 1.53]**  All Natural - Indoor Weather Filter For Mods.esp  [Version 1.0]6D  Bashed Patch, 0.esp6E  MergedMaps.esp6F  FormID Finder4.esp70  Streamline 3.1.esp

» Tue May 17, 2011 8:58 pm

Yes, ask in the WBash forum, then when you know what it means you can come back and explain it more fully so that we'll understand what it's all about and how it relates to us

There are no levelled lists in "Better Imperial City.esp" and there is nothing in BC with an Editor ID beginning "cob", sounds more like it's from Cobl to me. Also, assuming those are Form IDs (minus the first two digits) that you're listing, none of those Form IDs exist in "Better Imperial City.esp" either, so it sounds very much like this Contents Checker thing isn't working right.

Will do. Thanks for checking!

» Tue May 17, 2011 10:02 pm

ThomasKaira: Can't this issue be resolved by installing AN after BC?

» Wed May 18, 2011 6:31 am

Installing AN after BC is not a workable configuration. BC loads too far down in the order for this to be useful.

» Wed May 18, 2011 2:11 am

This is a repost (as suggested by Arthmoor) of a recent unresolved conflict that cropped up between All Natural and Better Cities. It is located in the Bruma Chapel of Talos.

http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/3785/anbadwindows.jpg

The above image illustrates the problem, some of the windows that are supposed to be transparent with All Natural are being reverted to non-transparent meshes by Better Cities. As I learned from running the windows through FormID Finder, AN's transparent windows function as a replacer (that is, the windows themselves are tied to Oblivion.ESM). The non-transparent windows, however, are tied to Better Cities Resources.ESM, and thus AN's replaced vanilla windows are being overwritten by BC's.

Spoiler

Active Mod Files:00  Oblivion.esm01  TR_OoT_Main.esm02  All Natural Base.esm  [Version 1.0]03  Cobl Main.esm  [Version 1.73]04  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm  [Version 1.34]05  Mart's Monster Mod.esm  [Version 3.7b3p3]06  Mart's Monster Mod for OOO.esm  [Version 0.9.9MB3]07  Kvatch Rebuilt.esm08  Better Cities Resources.esm  [Version 4.7.1]09  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [Version 3.2.10]0A  Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp0B  DLCShiveringIsles.esp0C  Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp  [Version 1.4.0]0D  Better Cities .esp0E  All Natural - Real Lights.esp  [Version 1.0]0F  All Natural.esp  [Version 1.0]10  All Natural - SI.esp  [Version 1.0]11  Enhanced Water v2.0 HD.esp++  Enhanced Water v2.0 HD - SI Addon.esp  [Version 0.1]++  Symphony of Violence.esp12  Rainbows.esp13  Akatosh Mount By Saiden Storm.esp++  Item interchange - Extraction.esp  [Version 0.76]14  kuerteeSittableRocks.esp15  Enhanced Economy.esp  [Version 4.2.1]16  DLCHorseArmor.esp**  DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]17  DLCOrrery.esp**  DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.3]18  DLCVileLair.esp19  DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]1A  DLCMehrunesRazor.esp1B  DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.4]1C  DLCSpellTomes.esp++  DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.1]1D  DLCThievesDen.esp**  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]1E  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp  [Version 1.0.4]1F  Cobl Glue.esp  [Version 1.73]20  Cobl Si.esp  [Version 1.63]21  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp  [Version 1.34]22  OOO 1.32-Cobl.esp  [Version 1.72]23  Mart's Monster Mod for OOO.esp  [Version 0.9.9MB3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Less Bone Loot.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Less Rats.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod for OOO - LessReaversInGates.esp  [Version 0.9.9MB3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Spawn Rates - Reduced.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]24  Mart's Monster Mod - Safer Quest Locations.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]25  Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Friendlier Factions OOO.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]26  Mart's Monster Mod - Farm Animals.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]27  Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse WaterLife.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3f]++  MMM-Cobl.esp  [Version 1.73]28  Kvatch Rebuilt.esp++  Kvatch Rebuilt - OOO Compatibility.esp29  Kvatch Rebuilt Weather Patch.esp2A  TR_Stirk.esp2B  DLCBattlehornCastle.esp2C  DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.4]2D  DLCfrostcrag.esp2E  FrostcragRebornCobl.esp2F  Knights.esp30  Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.10]++  Mart's Monster Mod for OOO - Knights .esp  [Version 0.9.9MB3]31  The Lost Spires.esp32  MannimarcoRevisited.esp33  MannimarcoRevisitedOOO.esp  [Version 0.1]34  ElsweyrAnequina.esp35  xuldarkforest.esp  [Version 1.0.4]36  LostSpires-DarkForest patch.esp37  xulStendarrValley.esp  [Version 1.2.2]38  xulTheHeath.esp39  MMMMWL-TheHeath patch.esp3A  XulEntiusGorge.esp3B  xulFallenleafEverglade.esp  [Version 1.3.1]3C  LostSpires-Everglade patch.esp  [Version 1.2]3D  Anequina-Fallenleaf-Patch.esp3E  xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp  [Version 1.2.1]3F  xulChorrolHinterland.esp  [Version 1.2.2]40  xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp  [Version 1.6.4]41  xulBravilBarrowfields.esp  [Version 1.3.2]42  xulLushWoodlands.esp  [Version 1.3]43  xulAncientYews.esp  [Version 1.4.3]44  xulAncientRedwoods.esp  [Version 1.6]45  xulCloudtopMountains.esp  [Version 1.0.3]46  xulArriusCreek.esp  [Version 1.1.3]47  xulPatch_AY_AC.esp  [Version 1.1]48  xulRollingHills_EV.esp  [Version 1.3.2]49  MMMMWL-RollingHills patch.esp4A  xulPantherRiver.esp4B  xulRiverEthe.esp  [Version 1.0.2]4C  xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp  [Version 1.0.2]4D  xulImperialIsle.esp  [Version 1.6.3]4E  xulBlackwoodForest.esp  [Version 1.0.4]4F  xulCheydinhalFalls.esp  [Version 1.0.1]50  KvatchRebuilt-CheydinhalFalls patch.esp51  xulAspenWood.esp  [Version 1.0.2]52  xulSkingradOutskirts.esp  [Version 1.0.1]53  xulSnowdale.esp  [Version 1.0]54  SnowdaleOOOPatch.esp55  FrostcragReborn-Snowdale patch.esp56  Harvest [Flora].esp  [Version 3.0.0]++  Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp  [Version 3.0.0]++  Harvest [Flora] - DLCVileLair.esp  [Version 3.0.0]57  Harvest [Flora] - DLCFrostcrag.esp  [Version 3.0.0]58  kuerteeInventoryIsABackpack.esp59  RealisticFatigue.esp5A  RealSleepExtended.esp  [Version 2.4.1]5B  SupremeMagicka.esp  [Version 0.89]5C  SM_ShiveringIsles.esp  [Version 0.86]++  SM_DLCSpellTome.esp  [Version 0.80]++  SM_OOO.esp  [Version 0.89]++  SM_MMM.esp  [Version 0.89]++  SM_COBL.esp  [Version 0.86]5D  SM_EnchantStaff.esp  [Version 0.80]++  SM_UnlockSpells.esp  [Version 0.70]++  SM_Scrolls.esp  [Version 0.84]++  SM_SigilStone.esp  [Version 0.83]5E  SM Bounty.esp  [Version 1.22c]++  CoblDeathFix.esp  [Version 1.20]5F  BetterBlocking.esp  [Version 3]60  Oblivion XP.esp  [Version 4.1.5]**  Let There Be Darkness - Cyrodiil + SI.esp**  Let There Be Darkness - Knights.esp**  Let There Be Darkness - Mehrunes Razor.esp**  Let There Be Darkness - Thieves Den.esp**  Let There Be Darkness - OOO.esp**  Let There Be Darkness - Kvatch Rebuilt.esp**  Let There Be Darkness - Lost Spires.esp**  Let There Be Darkness - Elsweyr.esp**  Let There Be Darkness - UL Colovian Highlands.esp**  Let There Be Darkness - UL Lost Coast.esp**  Let There Be Darkness - UL Brena.esp**  Let There Be Darkness - UL Blackwood Forest.esp++  Item interchange - Placement.esp  [Version 0.76]++  Item interchange - Placement for Frostcrag Reborn.esp  [Version 0.76]61  Better Cities Full.esp  [Version 4.7.0]62  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Barrowfields.esp  [Version 4.7.0]63  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Chorrol Hinterland.esp  [Version 4.7.0]64  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Cheydinhal Falls.esp  [Version 4.7.0]65  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Skingrad Outskirts.esp66  Better Cities - VWD of the IC.esp  [Version 4.7.0]67  Better Imperial City.esp  [Version 4.7.0]68  Better Imperial City FPS Patch.esp  [Version 4.7.0]69  Better Cities - COBL.esp  [Version 2.1]6A  Better Cities Full FPS Patch.esp  [Version 4.7.0]6B  Enhanced Economy - Soulgems.esp  [Version 4.2.1]6C  Real Hunger, Cobl.esp  [Version 1.6.1]++  Cobl Filter Late MERGE ONLY.esp  [Version 1.53]**  All Natural - Indoor Weather Filter For Mods.esp  [Version 1.0]6D  Bashed Patch, 0.esp6E  MergedMaps.esp6F  FormID Finder4.esp70  Streamline 3.1.esp

Thomas Kaira,

I mentioned the same problem as you in the AN thread. For a quick-and-dirty fix I extracted the working meshes that were referenced in the Anvil cathedral (which I think are generic for cathedrals anyway) from the AN BSA, renamed them the same as those referenced in the Bruma chapel by BC (and re-dated them so they are newer than those in the BC BSA), and copied those meshes to the appropriate meshes directory in my Oblivion data folder. Worked a treat, so I'm happy with this as a solution unless the BC team feel that a patch or fix is possible.

PM me and I can send you a zip of the renamed meshes to save you the trouble if you'd like to try this method. BC team, if you don't want me to do this please let me know.

Cheers,

Straub666

» Tue May 17, 2011 11:52 pm

Thanks for the tips, I'll try that out. Unfortunately, I found another slight something out of place in Bruma. Two floating archery targets (Castle courtyard practice area, behind the dummies):

http://img832.imageshack.us/img832/4116/bcfloatingtargets.jpg

» Wed May 18, 2011 7:39 am

So here I'am, on my white horse :wink_smile:
I have just finished works on my mod http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=30732#fileanchor, so

Could You, please, create a patch to your awesome mod Bananasplit's better cities for my mod Skingrad outer district? Because I'm not that skilled to make it myself, so I have to ask professionals :bowdown:

Or maybe You would want to incorporate my mode to BBC? ( Ok, taking too much chances here :liplick: )

Thanks

» Wed May 18, 2011 6:32 am

So here I'am, on my white horse :wink_smile:
I have just finished works on my mod http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=30732#fileanchor, so

Could You, please, create a patch to your awesome mod Bananasplit's better cities for my mod Skingrad outer district? Because I'm not that skilled to make it myself, so I have to ask professionals :bowdown:

Or maybe You would want to incorporate my mode to BBC? ( Ok, taking too much chances here :liplick: )

Thanks

strange I try and look at your picture and I get something saying that the site has been flagged as an attack site. But if I go to the site through my bookmarks it works fine. I wonder if there is an issue with the pictures?

» Wed May 18, 2011 5:17 am

strange I try and look at your picture and I get something saying that the site has been flagged as an attack site. But if I go to the site through my bookmarks it works fine. I wonder if there is an issue with the pictures?

Whole Tesnexus has been flagged as an attack site, nothing to do with my mod or the pictures.
EDIT: Looks like the main page is not flagged, but every mod is, as I tried BBC, Enchanced weather, my mod and multiple others.
EDIT2: Check out this http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1117547-tes-nexus-infected/.

» Wed May 18, 2011 4:52 am

One more thing, have You ever thought about remaking Leyawiin just like OCR does?

» Wed May 18, 2011 8:20 am

So here I'am, on my white horse :wink_smile:
I have just finished works on my mod http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=30732#fileanchor, so

Could You, please, create a patch to your awesome mod Bananasplit's better cities for my mod Skingrad outer district? Because I'm not that skilled to make it myself, so I have to ask professionals :bowdown:

Or maybe You would want to incorporate my mode to BBC? ( Ok, taking too much chances here :liplick: )

Thanks

Alright, we'll look into resolving any conflicts soonish.

One more thing, have You ever thought about remaking Leyawiin just like OCR does?

Not with any real seriousness, no.

» Wed May 18, 2011 10:36 am

There is now a compatibility patch for Skingrad Outer District and BC Skingrad available from the Nexus Better Cities page.

» Wed May 18, 2011 6:38 am

Finally got around to the Poll and read your comments. Although I like the option to pick and choose the cities as some do not appeal to me, there is a point at which any great project like this can't go forward without changing direction.

In my opinion, I would say release a final version of better cities as is now and begin a new better cities project with the great changes you are proposing, moving forward with quests and OBC. This way players have a choice of using the current BC for the things they want or changing to the new one. This is done in business in the real world all the time (remeber the new Coke? And then Coca Cola Classic?).

Or just move forward but make the BC classic available, maybe do some sparse support for some newer mods, or none at all.

Either way you go, it's a winner.

» Wed May 18, 2011 2:00 pm

I just upgraded my copy of better cities up from 4.6.1c to 4.7.1 and it made me think about the quests you guys are adding to the game. I had done a couple of quests in the Gold horse courier before I upgraded and then because your supposed to do a clean save of Better cities in order to upgrade I lost all my progress and had to start again from the beginning, so I was wondering what are you guys going to be doing about those kind of problems in the future. (Other than that of course I absolutely love the mod and wouldnt even consider playing the game without)

» Wed May 18, 2011 4:04 am

We already dealt with that problem over a year ago. It hasn't been necessary to make a clean save between version updates for very long time (since we gave each ESP a fixed Form ID range which doesn't overlap with our other ESPs), and even on rare occasions when it might still be needed, we have tried to make it clear that the ESM should still be left enabled, only the ESPs disabled for the clean save.

» Wed May 18, 2011 12:30 am

We already dealt with that problem over a year ago. It hasn't been necessary to make a clean save between version updates for very long time (since we gave each ESP a fixed Form ID range which doesn't overlap with our other ESPs), and even on rare occasions when it might still be needed, we have tried to make it clear that the ESM should still be left enabled, only the ESPs disabled for the clean save.

Oh fair enough, I feel a bit stupid now for always doing a clean save between versions

» Wed May 18, 2011 6:25 am

Minor issue to report: Gottlesfont Blue cheese which is added by Better Cities Resources.esm is missing its inventory icon. The Construction Set points to Textures\Menus\Icons\MTCicons\iconcheese.dds however this texture appears to be missing from the BSA file.

» Wed May 18, 2011 5:06 am

Minor issue to report: Gottlesfont Blue cheese which is added by Better Cities Resources.esm is missing its inventory icon. The Construction Set points to Textures\Menus\Icons\MTCicons\iconcheese.dds how this texture appears to be missing from the BSA file.

Thanks. I created the texture for next release.

» Wed May 18, 2011 8:21 am

The texture for the Twin Goblet Alehouse sign (BC - Textures EV.bsa:textures\clutter\signtwingobletalehouse.dds) has a normal map for Northern Goods and Trade.

» Wed May 18, 2011 4:27 pm

I can't seem to find the questgiver for the Gold Horse Courier. I've searched all over the Waterfront, but he's not there. I activated the quest to get the marker; it points south on my compass, but appears at the tunnel entrance on the map (both are green). If I go into the tunnel, the marker appears (again green) in dead space, somewhere north of the door that leads to the balcony. Where is this guy??

» Wed May 18, 2011 2:10 pm

On the Waterfront, opposite the Bloated Float.

» Wed May 18, 2011 2:24 pm

N/m... I'm stupid. I realized it was because I didn't have IC Waterfront installed. Oops.

On a side note: Do you think you could move it into the tunnel for better compatibility (i.e., mod conflicts or folks who use modular BC IC)?

» Wed May 18, 2011 9:12 am

I like it where it is, so it probably won't be moved. Here already is part of the reason we created the http://tinyurl.com/PollBBC.

» Wed May 18, 2011 7:07 am

Just a small thing I noticed. There is a piece of wood missing from the stairs outside of Riverside Housewares in Bravil. http://img705.imageshack.us/img705/2982/screenshot13u.jpg

I bet someone stole it!