This looks really interesting. It also has another use: new mod suggestions! I find myself looking up the mods you've done patches for - it just seems to provide a bit more focus than a lot of the mod suggestion threads I like your ideas for the delayers though. Are you inclined to do any of the DLC's? I saw the comments about KotN, but it didn't look like you really tackled that one. I use SM's quest delayer, but I find some of the requirements for that don't quite fit and I wind up disabling some of the plugins and putting up with the dialogs... The issue with KotN for me is that the chapel is destroyed as soon as you activate it, but the vendor there is the only one that sells one of the restoration spells. You have to do without that until you complete KotN unless you hold off on installing that plugin. SM's delayer usually kicks in too early for me (the only requirement is a fame of 15). Also as PetrusO pointed out earlier, the dialog is a little annoying because you have to lie, no matter what kind of player you are...

I love your ideas and the thought you're putting into this - well done

Thank you. I've never looked at what SM did with the DLC, but since you brought it up, I think I will.
Maybe I can put my own spin on 'em. My main concern is that these delayers remain Bash-able.
Wrye Bash won't Bash any mod that has new records, worldspace edits, dialog changes, or mods that have bsa's.
(Though there is hope that will change). So that limits which mods I'll release a delayer for.

Ah, I didn't realize that. I think most of the DLC's have BSA's, but I'm not sure that that would mean that your delayer wouldn't be bashable, if I understand how your delayers work...

Basically SM's delayers are patches that add some kind of criteria before you will hear the rumour. For example, for Battlehorn Castle (aka the Fighters Stronghold plugin), you have to have a certain number of creature kills before you hear the rumour. Unfortunately, you have to hear the rumour because it adds some dialog topics for the trainer and taxidermist that the plugin adds, so just a head's up there... If you head over to Battlehorn before hearing the rumour, the trainer and taxidermist won't work.

Anyway, have a look and if you're interested in tackling any of these and need some help, let me know and I'll be glad to. I've been tweaking both SM's mod and the DLC's I own all of them except SI (believe it or not )

Hi aellis,

I've always felt exactly the same as you on this stuff. A multitude of popups at game start is so immersion breaking. I love your work so far. If you are taking requests for others, I'd have to cast my vote for the newly merged Viconia DeVir quest and its associated Stoker Wolff quest:
http://tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=15200
http://tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=27437
prerequisite resources: http://tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=23153

I'll look into it. But, keep in mind, if I get permission and I do this particular delayer, it would be strictly stand-alone. I would not add it to the Bashed Delayers - Merge Only.esp.

Also, two new delayers added - Castle Seaview and Hoarfrost Castle.

That's certainly fine with me, but out of curiosity, why wouldn't it be included in the merged esp?

(downloading the hoarfrost delayer now : )

Any word on the Heart of the Dead delayer?

Any word on the Heart of the Dead delayer?

Just a (constructive) criticism comment from reading the BOSS thread.

I really urge you to stop changing the mod's name each time you upgrade the version of a mod. Instead, edit file details in Wrye Bash and write "Version #.#" there. That will make Wrye Bash display the correct version of your mod when people display their mod list, and we all avoid the hassle of updating BOSS for each new released update.

I changed the name of my delayers only once.
I added the version number of the mod being patched to the name of my delayer.
Subsequent releases of my delayers don't change names unless the mod being patched changes and its changes affect my changes.