Bash Tags for Everyone : IV - Oblivion

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 4:07 am

Haven't managed to read all the thread yet but just in case it hasn't been mentioned yet

All my Armor replacers for Exnem (and the beta EVE (HGEC) ones) should have the esps tagged {{Bash: Graphics, No Merge}}

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 4:15 pm

A question about that - do those esps need to be checked, after that?

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 4:46 pm

Errors in the first post:

BladeofWoe.esp {{Graphics, No Merge}} Import new graphics *only*.

Darkgreen Glass Armour.esp {{Graphics, No Merge}} Import new graphics *only*.

FineWeapons for OOO.esp {{Graphics, No Merge}} Import new graphics *only*.

mz_Shields_SI.esp {{Graphics, No Merge}} Import new graphics *only*.

RustyItems for OOO.esp {{Graphics, No Merge}} Import new graphics *only*.

You might want to remove the space between "no" and "merge" in these ones or they won't work properly.

Vac

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 11:23 am

Errors in the first post:

You might want to remove the space between "no" and "merge" in these ones or they won't work properly.

Vac

My fault.

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 2:10 pm

does Slofs robe trader need any tags? i just deleted it because i found a newer version, but i don't remember if i tagged it with anything...
also, i am using the suggested tags for mageequipment but it still doeant show up in my bash patch

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any ideas? actualy, when i untick it i do get the "dot-in-box" so i guess it is in the bashpatch. Why then do i not see it in the inventory log after i rebuild my patch? b/c of filter maybe? just curious

? :dance:

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 2:12 pm

Is the C.Light tag on the unofficial patches really needed? Because I started using darker dungeons and put it on the top of my loadorder and tagged it C.Light to get the best compatibility results.

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 8:51 am

Bashed Patches still have a "virtual" load order - DD will work. I recommend Let There Be Darkness, however, it changes the distant fog to black too

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 3:51 am

Haven't managed to read all the thread yet but just in case it hasn't been mentioned yet

All my Armor replacers for Exnem (and the beta EVE (HGEC) ones) should have the esps tagged {{Bash: Graphics, No Merge}}

A question about that - do those esps need to be checked, after that?

Nope once the esps than been bashed patched they can be de-ticked

- frees up some slots

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 1:17 pm

On a more general basis, which tagged mods can or should be deactivated (unloaded) after imported or merged into the bashed patch, besides those with {{Bash: Graphics}}? And prior to rebuild bashed patch, all the mods should be ticked, or some (like those with Merge or Graphics tags) should be unticked (unloaded)? It would be nice and useful if Aegyen added this information to open post!

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 9:32 am

Do you have to import tagged mods into your bash patch?I'm confused.

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 6:39 am

Do you have to import tagged mods into your bash patch?I'm confused.

Yes, the Tags are telling Wrye Bash to *specifically* import the tagged items.

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 10:23 am

For Shields of antiquity, I just need to put the tag relev, right?

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 1:28 am

Wow, this thread should definately be stickied! Sort of related question - when rebuilding the bashed patch it gives the option of importing names from Oblivion.esm, should this be done and why?

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 2:16 am

Wow, this thread should definately be stickied! Sort of related question - when rebuilding the bashed patch it gives the option of importing names from Oblivion.esm, should this be done and why?

Only do it if mods change names and you don't like the new names.
For example if you don't like LAME's new names for spells, you could make sure vanilla names are used by using the Name tag on Oblivion.esm.

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 10:12 am

Only do it if mods change names and you don't like the new names.
For example if you don't like LAME's new names for spells, you could make sure vanilla names are used by using the Name tag on Oblivion.esm.

Ah, I understand. Thanks for your help. :thumbsup:

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 2:19 pm

For Shields of antiquity, I just need to put the tag relev, right?

Nobody knows?

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 12:02 pm

For Shields of antiquity, I just need to put the tag relev, right?

You should not need to tag Shields of Antiquity, since it is adding new shields, but let me look, and report back..

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 9:04 am

Nobody knows?

You should not need to tag Shields of Antiquity, since it is adding new shields, but let me look, and report back..

Shields of Antiquity should be tagged has Invent, since it adds some shield to some npcs directly.

Adding Delev, Relev should only be used if you running leveledlist overhaul like OOO, Frans, TIE..Mods that change leveledlist scaling of items..and you should load SOA before OOO.esp, so that it does not overwrite OOO leveledlist changes for shields..

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 2:48 am

Thanks CorePC ... and then, playing with FCOM should put all the tags ( invent, delev, relev)?

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 3:39 pm

Thanks CorePC ... and then, playing with FCOM should put all the tags ( invent, delev, relev)?

Sorry, I think to have understood. Here are 3 a.m. and my brain does not connect :embarrass:

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 11:40 am

Sorry, I think to have understood. Here are 3 a.m. and my brain does not connect :embarrass:

actually i dont....i just dl'ed SoA
so with me FCOM setup i should place SoA before OOO and tag it with delev, relev, and invent, correct?
btw, any tags for The Forgotten Shields and Weapons Of The Fallen Heroes? i would think no, but i would just like to be sure

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 1:15 pm

actually i dont....i just dl'ed SoA
so with me FCOM setup i should place SoA before OOO and tag it with delev, relev, and invent, correct?
btw, any tags for The Forgotten Shields and Weapons Of The Fallen Heroes? i would think no, but i would just like to be sure

also, COBL races is listed as having {{Eyes, Hair, R.Relations}}, so should the RBP have the same tags? current bgBalanceEV only has{{Eyes, Hair}}...should Relations be added?
i ask because i thought COBL races was basically RBP Light...

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 1:08 am

also, COBL races is listed as having {{Eyes, Hair, R.Relations}}, so should the RBP have the same tags? current bgBalanceEV only has{{Eyes, Hair}}...should Relations be added?
i ask because i thought COBL races was basically RBP Light...

I never tagged my RBP with relations because I have no other mods affecting races, but yes it probably should be tagged like that as well. RBP edits the disposition penalties/bonuses your race has towards other races so tagging it with R.Relations would make sense to me. Unless I'm misunderstanding the R.Relations tags.

-Francisco-

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 2:22 pm

Couple of things:

Ruins of Tarnesia.esp [Version 1.0] {{C.Water, NpcFaces}} - Why does this have these tags? The mod does not alter water height in Tamriel and all of its indoor cells are entirely new content. It also edits no NPCs so there are no faces to import. Checked an unmodified/uncleaned ESP, water tag is unwarranted still but the NPC face tag is debatable.

The Lost Spires.esp {{C.Water}} - This should not be done. The 3 water height changes in the ESP are wild edits that appear to have actually come from the UL:Fallenleaf Everglade mod. Tagging this will potentially disrupt water heights in other locations. It makes no water height changes in any other cells.

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 12:22 am

The Lost Spires.esp {{C.Water}} - This should not be done...

thank you and nice catch.