Greetings all. Old Morrowind player but new to Morromodding. I am using mge3.8.0b and I can't get the shaders to work. My MGE settings are correct (I have checked the necessary boxes etc.) The HDR shaders seem to do what they are meant to but:

All bloom/truebloom shaders seem far to bright

All DoF shaders make the entire screen equally blurry and tweaking makes no difference.

SSAO shaders do absolutely nothing.

Sunshaft rays just make everything much darker as though I had turned down the gamma.

And several versions of these shaders just make the frame go black or grey.


I have tried all the up to date shaders as well as older versions and I have loaded them in the correct order and tried most other orders as well. Of course I tried the shaders individually too. I have the feeling I have missed something basic. Any help will be greatly appreciated. I am normally a very placid person but I am starting to become a little frustrated now. :confused:

I have had exactly the same experience in previous years, and I will be watchin this thread closely for an answer as well! I apologise for any false hope I gave you when you see a reply on your topic, just thought I'd let you know you weren't alone! I want to get my game like the screenshots too!

Try some settings from Vurt.

http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1048188-relz-vurts-weather-settings-for-bloom/page__hl__vurt




Here is a tip (don't remember who posted it)

Towards the end of knu's DoF shader, replace this:CODE    return float4(color.rgb / amount, 1);}technique T0{    pass { PixelShader = compile SM dof(); }    pass { PixelShader = compile SM smartblur(); }}with this:CODE    return float4(color.rgb / amount, 1);}float4 handsback(in float2 tex : TEXCOORD ) : COLOR0{    float4 dofimage = tex2D (s3, tex);    float4 ce = smoothstep(99,100, tex2D(s1, tex).r);    float4 image = tex2D(s0, tex);    float4 hands = (1 - ce) * image;    float4 rest = dofimage * (ce);    float4 mix = rest + hands;    return mix;  }technique T0{    pass { PixelShader = compile SM dof(); }    pass { PixelShader = compile SM smartblur(); }    pass { PixelShader = compile SM handsback(); }}

At least it fixes blurry hands and weapon.

Can't help you with anything else, sry

Have you tried posting in the MGE thread?

3.8.0b is ancient, I don't think it even supports SSAO or sunshafts.

Thanks Die Jedi but I have already twaeked the DoFs as you suggest. I now have a bloom shader that is sufficiently dim.

Fergus, I already searched all the forums for this information but everybody who has problems seems to have got a lot farther than I have (unless they can't activate shaders at all). Generally, people's shaders seem do what you'd expect but not perfectly and they have to be tweaked in some way or added in a different order. Mine just do completely the wrong thing (and more specifically not the right thing, as with the Sun rays. darkened screen but no rays anyway). Thanks for the tip though, I will post on an MGE thread soon.

This right here is your problem, any shader that requires depth information will not work with 3.8.0b, you will need one of the SVN revisions past 3.8.1 SVN 118 in order to get Sunshafts, Depth of Field, or SSAO to work correctly, and many of the newer bloom shaders also require some of the updated shader info from the newer SVN versions as well.

TBQH, I suggest just using SVN 178, it has pretty much all of the features required to run just about every shader out there, minus a couple designed specifically for 186.

Hey Povuholo, I knew someone would reply at the same time I did. I have suspected this for some time but when I try to update MGE the page I get to always seems to indicate That 3.8.0b is the latest version. Thanks for clearing that up. So I'll back-up my MGE settings and just over-write with a newer version? Can I expect any problems updating MGE?

Thanks every-one, I downloaded SVN 178 and everything works splendidly. :twirl:

Going to get some screenshots and enjoy good old Vvardenfell.
:violin: :violin: :violin:

yea, someone really needs to put a link to the newest revisions in the sourceforge page, i had the same problem and it took me a while of searching and some assistance to find it.

The sourceforge page for MGE downloads has all the pertinent links, it's just a matter of expanding the file tree.

There's also a direct link to the most recent revision provided at the bottom of the http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1135315-morrowind-graphics-extender-mge/. -_-

If you open any trueBloom shader in the editor, you'll see about a dozen settings at the top with description. A couple of them will influence brightness. I can give you more details if you have specific questions, otherwise, just play with the settings a lot.

Thanks guys. Now I will never play Morrowind again. . . I'll spend all my scant spare time drooling over graphics.

It took about an hour before I stopped gawping. Then I slew a pair of cliff-racers and spotted a super-secret isle far over the Eastern Sea and then I gawped for another hour. :celebration:

Maybe I can get Hrnchamd's shadows to work next. . .

Hmm. On my return to Vvardenfell I found that I had animated grass (I had static grass before) and it isn't happy grass. There are broken mid-sections of grass floating just above the rest. Any one know what caused this and how to get rid of it?

*my guilt is here* delete this as soon as you see, mr. moderator

@Dread_HAZARD
make sure you are using the proper grass meshes for animated grass - you can find links for them thru the MGE documentation via the FAQ on the MGE OP.



@Mellow
No need to cross post, nor hijack this thread. You've already asked this in the MGE thread (which is the appropriate place for MGE related issues), and it looks to be responded to there. -_-

Tetchy said: "make sure you are using the proper grass meshes for animated grass - you can find links for them thru the MGE documentation via the FAQ on the MGE OP."

Thanks Tetchy but let me explain what I did. I tried animated grass a week ago. It looked great but it caused player collision as though it were a static. The result was that I couldn't move anywhere so naturally, I unloaded the mod. Next I loaded Vality's static grass which didn't cause the collision issue. Now, after updating MGE, my grass has become animated and 'broken' :shrug: and I have no idea why. I can't find anything that I might have loaded that would cause this. Maybe I ought to load a new animated grass mod. . .

"I tried animated grass a week ago. It looked great but it caused player collision as though it were a static."
You left the grass plugins enabled in Morrowind Launcher(or Wrye Mash). When it is strictly stated that they are for MGE distant land wizard only. They shouldn't be left activated in Morrowind Launcher.

Install animated grass mod.
Activate plugins temporarily in Morrowind Launcher(so distant land wizard load them automatically) OR manually add them in distant land wizard.
Generate distant land.
If you chose the temporarily activate method, deactivate grass plugins in Morrowind Launcher.
Enjoy your animated grass!

Again, thanks for the help but I don't have the collision problem. As I said higher up, this grass looks fine, is animated and does not cause collision but there is another, disconnected piece of grass floating a few inches above the rest of the grass. I can still see the non-animated grass underneath it. So this grass with the extra floating piece is not the non-animated grass (it's there as well) and it's not the grass for distant land (because it isn't causing collision, thanks for clearing that up). I don't know where it came from but it seems to date from when I updated MGE. . .

Now I have another problem. I did a quest in Tamriel Rebuilt where teleportation magic was disabled (rescue some one from a daedric shrine). Now I've discovered that it never re-enabled and I can't teleport at all. Re-loading the game doesn't help. . .

That would be an issue with Tamriel Rebuilt, or perhaps a bad load order, but MGE is a seperate program from Morrowind, and while it intecepts directx calls, it does not actually effect any gameplay mechanics, what you are experiencing is bug to report in the Tamriel Rebuilt thread.

I know, I know, you're perfectly right. I'll take it to another thread. Any ideas on the grass though?

Did you look at the MGE documentation as I suggested? Here's the http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/morrgraphext/index.php?title=Creating_Distant_Land to the pertinent directions (most importantly, follow step 4) - you need to be using Liztail's modified version of the grass meshes.

I'm pretty sure that the issue is because the grass .esp's are still checked in MGE. If you want static grass you need the correct mesh and texture versions, then you need to check the .esp's in Morrowind and NOT in MGE (basically the opposite of animated grass) otherwise MGE will try to animate your static grass and cause the issue. If you have it checked in both then that causes either weird looking grass and/or you can't walk through the grass.

I'm having issues with sunshaft, for some reason it stopped working. I changed a bunch of climate related options so I suspect that the problem is there. All my shaders work fine and there's no graphical issues, but I just don't get any sunshafts (yet I did a while back before I tweaked my settings). Anyone have a idea of how I broke the shafts (oh my that sounds bad)?

Thanks!

By "climate related options", do you mean INI edits? I can't test now, but I think sunshafts' strength are affected by the Glare View line under each weather setting. Maybe.