Has he ever gotten your class completely and utterly wrong in the sewers? He has for me nearly every time.

I think depending on what you used most(I could be wrong) in the dungeon before getting to the part where the emperor is assassinated baurus thinks you are what he says.

That's the way it's supposed to work, but it doesn't. I always toss lots of Flares at the rats and goblins I encounter, getting at least 2 level ups in Destruction, he still never pegs me as a magic character. But if I sneak enough to just level up once in that skill it will come up as a stealth class. The same thing with combat if my blade goes up a single level. That whole class detection routine is broken as far as I'm concerned.

I love Baurus, but he can get a little confused at times. He indeed is not very good at picking classes. Of more concern however is that he is willing to let a crimminal waltz out of the Imperial Prison with the Amulet of Kings.

I thought Baurus was pretty cool. He is, however, terrible at getting classes. It's because the system he uses to work it out is seriously flawed.
http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1173296-the-recommended-class/page__p__17318247__hl__baurus+class__fromsearch__1#entry17318247

Also, http://cs.elderscrolls.com/constwiki/index.php/GetIsClassDefault detailing exactly the methods the game uses for Baurus to guess your class. This handy page was provided by Hairdo Galosh Jam in the first link.

Hey, give Baurus a break. He just lost his Emperor and his two brothers (sister)-in-arms. He doesn't know how many assassins still patrol the sewers. All he knows for sure is that the Emperor called upon you for help. I think he can be forgiven for thinking that you are a Bard based on the way you hold a torch. :wink_smile:

He makes the suggestion for new players to the series as a recommendation based on their actions throughout the tutorial. I typically use Custom classes every time, so it's pretty much impossible for him to get it right for me.

Yeah. Baurus is not an idiot. He's just not very good at guessing classes.

Or maybe we're not so good at actually playing the classes we think we're playing. I've done a few experimental runs through the tutorial, deliberately using just the skills that are major for the standard class I have in mind, and he usually hits it pretty close. Mage is the hardest for him to get right; if you even sneak up on that goblin, as the tutorial suggests, you will raise Sneak a level or two, and cause Baurus to guess Healer. Likewise, he'll choose Barbarian over Warrior.

The problem is that Sneak levels so fast, and it's really hard to get through the tutorial without sneaking. That distorts the Combat and Magic class choices.

And if Sneak doesn't get you, then Security will, if you open any of those locked chests.

The other part of it is that the tutorial really encourages the development of "generalist" characters. Some skills that would "define" a character aren't available to us at all, like Conjuration or Alteration. And the tools given to us favor a combination of Stealth (lockpicks) and Combat (armor and weapons.)

Baurus aint no idiot, but always says I am a Bard <_<

I couldn't agree more. It always bothered me that my Nightblade couldn't use Illusion or Conjuration in the tutorial.

He got it wrong for Lothran too. Although he may have gotten it right on the whole but I wanted, as many others, to tailor my character

Heavy armour, blade, hand to hand, destruction, restoration. Yes, but you picked a few locks, so I'm guessing you're an Agent.

Every time.

Well, there's absolutely nothing necessary in any of those locked chests, and unless you're on an awfully high difficulty, a naked Bosmer could fight his way through that tutorial with nothing but one of the clubs you can pick up in the beginning of the "rat run." So one doesn't actually have to use skills that aren't suited to the build they're actually going for.

I have a character who went through the tutorial without fighting anything at all; she just ran and healed herself all the way. I think Baurus guessed her to be a sorcerer, which is close enough.

In my opinion, there's really nothing wrong with the way the game is anolyzing the tutorial for a suggested class. The only problem is that Sneak and Security are leveling a bit too quickly, and throw off the result. This can also happen with other skills, if you use them without intending to. For instance, it's possible to advance Acrobatics, Athletics, and Block several levels, if you fall back on habits learned with previous characters.

(Well, there's another problem, maybe... Maybe we're taking Baurus's guess too seriously! )

This.

Baurus. :hugs:

Baurus is not an idiot! He is one of the best characters in the game. Once he got it right but I change bits of it with custom class but on the most he got it right.

Whatever. You still won't have any trouble with those rats or goblins.

the first time i played oblivion ...baurus died..didn't hurt my game

Well, if he isn't an idiot naming your class, he is in the Elven Garden Sewers. He keeps throwing himself on the nearest mudcrab as if it personally attacked the Emperor. By the time you hit the actual baddies he's got about 2 Health left.

But, compared the the Count of Cheydinhal's kid, he's a genius.

Yes. In recent times, when I've done the Main Quest, my characters have either gone into that sewer "out of curiosity" and killed off everything in the way, prior to meeting with him, or they've procured a "restore health on target" spell to heal him. He seems to be inordinately vulnerable to mudcrab damage.

And remember Baurus is not skilled or trained in picking peoples classes.

Baurus is a Blade who is highly trained to be an expert in protecting the Emperor, which he.... ah, um... never mind :whistling:

Sorry, but that's simply not the case. How do you explain the fact that my Destruction skill goes up at least 2 points almost everytime, yet my Blade skill only advances once, yet I never, ever get pegged as some sort of magic based character. I typically get picked as a Bard, which is combat based, almost everytime.

That's pretty easy to take care of. When you get to the end of the sewer, just Wait for an hour before you go meet the baddies. He'll be fully healed.

Baurus is awesome, and I swear I heard him yell "Wizard" during one of the fights in the sewers.

Bard is heavier Stealth than either Combat or Magic. You have to use 30% Stealth skills (at least) to be picked as a Bard. You're using Sneak and/or Security in the tutorial. What do you expect to happen if you go around on tiptoes and picking locked chests?