"Khajiit are commonly considered one of the beast folks, one of the few survivors of the original inhabitants of Tamriel before the coming of mer and man, and Elsweyr is their home."
So, I had a question, what beastfolk inhabited Tamriel before men/mer, and when did men/mer come to Tamriel? Would I be correct in saying the Akaviri peoples settled Tamriel first and were driven out?

Also, where did the mer come from? Man came from Yokuda and Atmora if I am correct.

Aldmeris

did you just do :shocking: A TRIPLE POST.......OMG :shocking:

No, they just have the same avatar.


edit: OP, I thought the Khajiit were transformed from elves by the Daedric Prince Azura.

In Elsweyr, Azurah is nearly a wholly separate entity, yet she is still tied into the origins of Khajiiti out of Altmeri stock. - http://www.imperial-library.info/content/morrowind-varieties-faith-empire

Followers of the prophet Veloth no doubt..Boethiah worshipers. Don't trust them.

I don't think there's any evidence that the beastfolk came from Akavir... I suppose it's vaguely possible, but none of the in-game books advance the theory and it seems to me more likely that they're simply native to Tamriel itself. There's no proof that I know of for Akavir-Tamriel contact before the late First Era.

The mer came to Tamriel sometime in the Merethic Era; there isn't a known date for it, but it happened a considerable amount of time before ME c. 1000* (give or take a couple centuries), which is the date generally accepted by Tamriellic scholars for the arrival of the Nedes, the first men to leave Atmora. A few accounts speak of humans native to Tamriel, but this all could simply have been derived from Alessian propaganda, depending on how much one trusts the Adabal-a...

*Note that Merethic Era dates run down towards the end of the era (like BCE does in our world), so that means 1000 years before the beginning of the First Era.

What we have is only from http://www.imperial-library.info/content/morrowind-annotated-anuad. Here's the relevant quote about your question

As for the khajiit, the myth surrounding them states that it was Azura who bound them to the lunar lattice in order to stabilize their form during the craziness that was the Merithic era (or was it Dawn?). You can read about it in the book, http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Words_of_Clan_Mother_Ahnissi.

So it's safe to say the aldmer are [NUMMIT]s, and that all the races of Tamriel are descended from the Ehlnofey, save for the argonians who are from the Hist.

:facepalm: OH........ i am so embarrassed:facepalm:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2l8spIBo22Y

The common consideration is misguided, they just lump the Khajiit together with the real primitive beasts. The Khajiit didn't come from beasts, they came from Bosmer, the least bestial race imaginable (minus the Wild Hunt).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beast_Wars

What about the Ka Po' Tung? They may be related to the Khajiit and once were on Tamriel. Just speculation though.

Also, now I'm confused. The natives of Tamriel became the Mer, amirite? So what about Aldmeris? Were the mer from Aldmeris possibly the Falmer and the Maormer?

Ka Po' Tung? No, they're Akaviri, and are mythically equivalent to the mer, like how the snake-men are the mythical equivalent of men. Also, the Ka Po' Tung are not bound to the lunar lattic as far as anyone can tell, so they cannot be khajiit.

As for Aldmeris, it's not an actual place, but an ideal.

And to try and simplify things there used to be Ehlnofey and Hist. The Ehlnofey then split into the aldmer (proto-mer) and men. From the aldmer, differences began to arise, and were further split into the vast amount of mer there are today, mainly due to cultural and religious differences. You had the Chimer, who abandoned the traditional view of the aldmer, and followed their prophet, Veloth, to Morrowind. The Chimer then became the dunmer when the Tribunal became gods. The dwemer always seemed to have been in Morrowind, and had a more hardcoe view of what the aldmer believed, but tried to achieve their goals instead of wallowing in despair. The bosmer follow Y'ffre above all and live in the woods. The orsimer were aldmer who placed Trinimac as their head deity, but were transformed when Trinimac was eaten and pooped out by Beothiah. As for falmer, they were wiped out too early with hardly any evidence of their culture or anything to know what (other than living in cold climates). The maormer, I guess, were mer who were kicked out of Summerset and sent southwards. The khajiit used to be bosmer who were turned into kitties by Azura, in order to stabilize their form during the craziness of the Dawn era or Merithic era.

With men, you have the Yokudans who lived in Yokuda and fought the "left-handed elves." They also have a view of the world closer to mer than men. The nords came from Altmora, and settled as various tribes of men. The Nedes, I believe, were the proto-Cyrodiils and were descended from nords (and the Cyrodiils themselves are divided between being Colovians, who are more nord-like, and Nibenese, who are smooth talkers, more magically inclined, and were described as being more exotic). The bretons came to be after centuries of aldmer and nedes breeding with each other.

As for the Hist, they made the argonians, so out of all the races, the argonians are the ones who are completely different from all others.

There may be some information I neglected or slightly incorrect, but this should help for now.

The et'ada (natives of Tamriel) became everything, except the hist, who are something different.

Aldmeris is just a (merish) word for Nirn's version of Pangea. Everybody's from Aldmeris. Or Atmora, if you're take the mannish name. It really makes no difference what you call it.

http://geology.com/pangea.htm

When Topal the Pilot "discovered" Tamriel, he saw Argonian-like beast folk up around Lake Rumare. Or was it Morrowind? I can't exactly remember. But regardless, the Hist/Proto-Argonians were there. It's conceivable that other beast-folk (like the Imga) were there too and the Khajiit came from Elves who were mirroring them for some unfathomable reason.

Atmora's different, because Atmora's still there. Just really cold and really lifeless. People still go to Atmora. People don't go to Aldmeris anymore.

You sure know your stuff, thanks for the info.

Eh, I'm still far behind a lot of other people. I just like to help.

Et'ada is a term for any 'god' in tes, any spirit of a higher subgradient than Men/Mer/Argonians

Aldmeris was Tamriel's mainland + all it's islands + Pyandonea.

*higher than Ehlnofey and maybe Hist.

Bleh, already explained it. Too lazy to look if I did

As for me, when I hear "et'Ada" I think "the term to describe the beings, who were undefined till the creation of Mundus." What I mean by that is, everyone was known as an et'Ada, till Mundus was made, wherein they began to separate into the divisions of today (aedra, daedra, mortal, magna-ge, etc)

It seems to me that it refers more to the higher beings than mortals. Pelinal cautioned his nephew Morihaus "We are Ada, Mor, and change things through love." This was in the context of the idea of Morihaus reproducing with Alessia. It's implied there's supposed to be a distinction between et'Ada and mortals.

This might just do nobody any good.

Topal the Pilot is an interesting case. He was in a serious sense the father of modern Alinor, but his life and deeds have been steadily diminished by the aggregate tabulations of the Altmer as they crystallize their history into a more pleasing form. Indeed, their archives now will demonstrate (convincingly, to the Imperial College) that they follow after Trinimac, but all the elves would make the same claim in their own way. In the Isles, even the past is mutable, do not believe their written history.

It is the insidious culmination of these sort of fabrications, assisted along by the weakness of Aldmeri scholarship, that Professor Jaliil should have so poorly 'translated' the four-dimensional poetry the Altmer happily summoned for him in the actualization chambers at the Pinnacle of Law. But know this: more reputable records are available than elven sleight-of-hand. The imperatum saliache remembers the truth; if you do not trust them (as you probably should not) there is also the tongue-of-kreath, Vrendunsvalla Whose Beard Became A Mountain - from the peak atop his tangled mane, the backwards-walking Clever Man of Ysgramor witnessed the unfolding of the Aldmeri drama.

And on these points they agree: Topal the Pilot set out from Old Alinor - that is, Alinor-el-Salia, the white keystone of empire, not Alinor-el-Sumer, which stands today. As he sailed the Niben, he found "beastfolk," that is true. They would become the bulk of the slaveforce of saliache before a "beast" woman overthrew the last empire of the elves. Yes, the beastfolk of the jungle were the first peoples of Tamriel, but they will also be the last.

Hopefully, my meaning is clear.

So the beastfolk were men? interesting.

It was mentioned, in some in-game book, that men and beastfolk fought on the same side way before written history.

he-he, love it.

The backwards-walking, Clever Man of Ysgramor did not paint the back of his hollow-head, with sinister eyes. As the first Keptu learned, tigers can't eat a pair of eyes, looking back. They'll just talk, until they're out of wind. We warned him not to go further, "these are not the Mer you're looking for!" But he walked south, shouting, and sounding like a flock of kutul-birds, in his hollow-head. Well, he was cut to pieces. (Wasn't the last time, either.)

So now you know... I guess.

Well, considering that I believe the Ayleids equated men with beastfolk (hence the slavery), then I'd say that it sounds plausible.