Hey Khajiit! I'm going to kill your cat! =/= Hey Khajiit! I'm going to kill your child!

Khajiit/Argonians are humanoids.

i have feeling this topic will be monitored by mods closely

beastality
so wouldn't that mean if elf and human marry it is bestiality ! as elf and humans are not same species make that bestiality also ?

earth terms donot necessary follow evolution of nirn ,only the npcs can marry

well the Argonian reproductive system and biology doesnt support that. nor their intra-species variations such as the Nagas which....

NO, you know what im not going down this road...

we should all flee this thread like its a house on fire

Argonians and Khajiit must be advlts to marry, they are sentient and will make an informed choice with a full understanding of the matter, being humanoid and beast-like is not an aspect outlawed, if they were an actual beast then it would be illegal. That said, there are plenty of humans out there that look like dogs or beasts and its legal to marry them, so I fail to see a lack of distinction between Argonians/Khajiits and actual beasts.

This is not a very appropriate topic for these forums so please take great care of what is posted. The moderators will be keeping an eye on it.

You need to stop playing TES games. You obviously don't understand anything that is going on around you.

Not really. At most, they're condoning "furries". Bestiality is intercourse with an animal, not anything that is non-human. By that logic, even having intercourse with a mer race would be "bestiality" because they are not human.

Neither are elves. Arguably, Imperials, Nords, and Redguards have enough anatomical differences to not be considered the same species, as well. It's still not bestiality. Argonians are not lizards, so they are not beasts. Khajiit are not cats, so they are not beasts. None of the races in the game are beasts, they are humanoids. I doubt anybody will be up and arms, or even think, that Bethesda is 'condoning' bestiality by allowing an Argonian and Imperial to marry each other. If they love/like each other enough to do it, why wouldn't they?

Stop this. They are human not in the sense of OUR world but the world of NIRN. Sure it's fiction but in that world they are normal human beings just a different genus. ( I think it would be genus)

Honestly I think this may be trolling but it's hard to tell.

I've actually only played Oblivion, and not for long. But that's irrelevent so I don't know why you brought it up.

Argonian and Khajiit Females have "briasts" (As in the physical structure seen on human females, not neccessarily mammary glands)... a physical trait that, in the real world, is unique to one species: Humans.

Also, the skeletal and muscle structure, aside from mild variation at the base of the spine and toward the ends of the extremities, is also uniquely human.

They have more human features than cosmetic animal features. Ergo, they are zoomorphic humans.


Except maybe Argonians.

It's a fantasy game dude. Cool your jets.

Anthropomorphic humanoid creatures =/= mindless animals. Argonians and Khajiit have cultures, civilized ones at that. Also, they have a conscience.

Please stop :stare: I truly can't believe someone would be stubborn/ignorant enough not to realise that beast races are considered equals in Nirn.

I dont see them as beast they can think and make choices ^-^ so no i dont think they are and i think if you said this to an argonians face they might just claw it off XD argonians rock but i love all races have a soft spot for argonians though

Hey, can we marry our dog companions?

No they're not...they couldn't care less. Although I agree the ME thing was ridiculous (and that's being kind).

You need to stop playing TES as you obviously don't have a very firm grip on reality. Argonians and Khajit aren't human. It's not bestiality to have relations with them though.

Except they aren't. I will give him that.

Ayleids enslaved them, as being lesser beings. And they developed a culture slower than the other races. They are also considered weaker politically, and as a race, than other races, and are subject to the most racism (besides maybe Nords in some places). They are humanoid, maybe even considered humans, but they are looked down upon.

... You're right. They are textured, animated polygons with pre-recorded voice acting.

What defines a beast? Its not humanoid, its unable to give consent, its from a distinct species, and it does not have the same recognised rights as a Homo Sapien.

Therefore, Khajiiti and Argonians are not beasts, although they are beast-like in appearance.

Alien love is totally legal. They are humanoid. Khajiit and Argonian love is also totally legally. To recognise them as beasts would be to overlook their rights to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. Werewolf and human love makes it onto normal television because the humanoid aspect is recognised as a clear distinction. There is a clear distinction with Khajiiti and Argonians from beasts. I would argue that Khajiiti and Argonians are human. If the difference between our DNA and that of a primate is 1%, the difference between Khajiit and Argonian DNA from Homo Sapien DNA would be less than 1%.

This kind of topic makes me wonder what kind of bigotry would rain down if/when humanity makes contact with intelligent alien species.

Everything that I would have said has been said. They are people making well informed choices. Their physical form really doesn't matter; only their minds.

Considering what we're talking about on this topic, yes they're equals.

It's not bestiality, it's xenophilia. bestiality is unsanitary and wrong and disgusting. Xenophilia is just... http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/1857/thrikreenandbard.png

EDIT: Double post. Hmmm didn't happen in a quite some time