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Post » Fri Feb 19, 2010 4:11 pm

but ROY, i find a few ok emo/scene girls, but the http://totallylookslike.com/2009/04/20/scene-girl-totally-looks-like-a-papillon/

It is arguable that the whole emo/scene thing has been absorbed into the whole hipster thing as its target market aged. Personally I like to think I'm above such silly childish styles.
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Post » Fri Feb 19, 2010 7:54 am

Ok. First things first. Angelina Jolie is not a female. He is a serpent. (and also a man)
Second thing, Lily..Loveless? looks like a 15 year old boy going through puberty. IMO, that is. My pecks are bigger than her chest.

:stare:

Lily Loveless is gorgeous.Me and a fanbase of about 1 million or more people agree. I dunno how you can say that.

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Post » Fri Feb 19, 2010 8:59 am

Personally I like to think I'm above such silly childish styles.

I agree wholeheartedly, I believe i am above this manner of thought or look.
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Post » Fri Feb 19, 2010 10:32 am

I more like Victorian Art at one point, but i moved forward to the more sophisticated women of the 1940s.

but ROY, i find a few ok emo/scene girls, but the http://totallylookslike.com/2009/04/20/scene-girl-totally-looks-like-a-papillon/

@ this isny my name: yes, the personality to me seemed a bit different. one was immature, the other didnt quite believe in anything...and the other just...just was not to my taste.

http://i39.tinypic.com/e5ffjt.jpg looks nice in that pic imo, I admit some look odd, like you linked, but usually I only see that look. Emo hair on guys though (I dont find guys attractive, but if we are on about emo hair, to me guys with emo hair just irritate me, their hair dose, the fringe just annoys me for some reason, it dosent look good at all.) :facepalm:
It just seemed to be girls that had the immature personality, I found the guys (only met 3 now I remembered 2 others) just tended to hate me for no reason.
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Post » Fri Feb 19, 2010 12:04 pm

I agree wholeheartedly, I believe i am above this manner of thought or look.

That's not to say some of them don't look attractive, but their whole subculture irritates me.

Also.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jh4Fv27qGRc
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Post » Fri Feb 19, 2010 9:23 pm

Myself I think natural beauty is the best. Celebrities who have plastic surgery to look good just look bad to me. All those Angelina Jolie types in Hollywood are nasty. They look really fake. Its unnatural beauty.


Angelina didn't have plastic surgery to look that way (she has probably had some now, but that's just maintenance, and you might be surprised by some of the celebrities that do that), so....... how is that unnatural beauty?
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Post » Fri Feb 19, 2010 9:17 pm

http://i39.tinypic.com/e5ffjt.jpg looks nice in that pic imo, I admit some look odd, like you linked, but usually I only see that look. Emo hair on guys though (I dont find guys attractive, but if we arre on about emo hair, to me guys with emo hair just irritate me) :facepalm:
It just seemed to be girls that had the immature personality, I found the guys (only met 3 now I remembered 2 others) just tended to hate me for no reason.

yes, the guys that have emo hair just seem to hate anything and everything for the sake of their subculture, and thats always irritating.. the linked picture isnt bad, but i would rather see her in a different set of clothes, a somewhat more modern twist on a victorian style dress may seem overdone to some, but i say it would be more nice than a simple T-shirt.

@ Turns-The-page: of course there are a few girls that are actually nicer looking...but their subculture does irritate me as well...
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Post » Fri Feb 19, 2010 7:35 pm

yes, the guys that have emo hair just seem to hate anything and everything for the sake of their subculture, and thats always irritating.. the linked picture isnt bad, but i would rather see her in a different set of clothes, a somewhat more modern twist on a victorian style dress may seem overdone to some, but i say it would be more nice than a simple T-shirt.

@ Turns-The-page: of course there are a few girls that are actually nicer looking...but their subculture does irritate me as well...

Wouldnt victorian go more with the gothic culture ?

After google scene is just emo style with colours not black ? Hmm guess that one girl I knew was more scene than emo.
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Post » Fri Feb 19, 2010 3:46 pm

As Im sure it has already been said (I didn't read through the thread) beauty is very very subjective. What I consider beautiful most would not. I personally find no attraction in asian women, but get goggly eyed for red heads. Also beauty doesn't have to be associated with physical features alone. If someone has a beautiful laugh Ill consider them more beautiful than a more physically attractive woman. Its all about what you want, [censored] everyone else.
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Post » Fri Feb 19, 2010 5:40 pm

Heh. The comments in this thread have quite proven the point (repeatedly) that beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

And kudos to whoever linked the Jessica Rabbit clip. I need to re-watch that movie!
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Post » Fri Feb 19, 2010 8:03 am

As Im sure it has already been said (I didn't read through the thread) beauty is very very subjective. What I consider beautiful most would not. I personally find no attraction in asian women, but get goggly eyed for red heads. Also beauty doesn't have to be associated with physical features alone. If someone has a beautiful laugh Ill consider them more beautiful than a more physically attractive woman. Its all about what you want, [censored] everyone else.

Red heads are nice to, but I dont like them as much as you do, as for features, well never hear me laugh, because apparently its sadistic as hell (goes well with my love of dark humor jokes) but damn it creeps people out... Explains alot now.

And yeah beauty is different to everyone, so saying what is the most beautiful person/thing is pretty pointless, still nice to see what others think as attractive.
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Post » Fri Feb 19, 2010 11:26 am

Heh. The comments in this thread have quite proven the point (repeatedly) that beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

And kudos to whoever linked the Jessica Rabbit clip. I need to re-watch that movie!

thank you kindly friend, that truly is one of my favorite movies of all time, they dont make 'em like they used to...

@this isnt my name: although you are half right that it is towards a more gothic tone, you could say that the scene look shows some traits that could almost carry over from gothic looks to this, in some parts though..only a bit...and that it would match somewhat more if the dress was more modern...modern being what my opinion is on the subculture in particular...a more modern gothic look...
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Post » Fri Feb 19, 2010 10:37 am

Wouldnt victorian go more with the gothic culture ?

After google scene is just emo style with colours not black ? Hmm guess that one girl I knew was more scene than emo.


Well, yes and no. Lots of goth and goth lolita has strong neo-Victorian influence, but I haven't run across anybody willing to go for the full http://www.staylace.com/gallery/gallery05/camilleclifford/index.html look.
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Post » Fri Feb 19, 2010 1:25 pm

Well, yes and no. Lots of goth and goth lolita has strong neo-Victorian influence, but I haven't run across anybody willing to go for the full http://www.staylace.com/gallery/gallery05/camilleclifford/index.html look.


That looks down right painful
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Post » Fri Feb 19, 2010 7:19 pm

I don't really know what "beauty" is, but I'm more than happy with what I have and couldn't care less what anyone says about her ^_^
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Post » Fri Feb 19, 2010 7:26 pm

thank you kindly friend, that truly is one of my favorite movies of all time, they dont make 'em like they used to...

@this isnt my name: although you are half right that it is towards a more gothic tone, you could say that the scene look shows some traits that could almost carry over from gothic looks to this, in some parts though..only a bit...and that it would match somewhat more if the dress was more modern...modern being what my opinion is on the subculture in particular...a more modern gothic look...

And what would you think a modern gothic look would be like ?

Well, yes and no. Lots of goth and goth lolita has strong neo-Victorian influence, but I haven't run across anybody willing to go for the full http://www.staylace.com/gallery/gallery05/camilleclifford/index.html look.

Just googled goth lolita, wow thats kind strange. I dont... apparently they are trying to look like victorian dolls or something... I dont know if they are, but its kinda odd, well atleast they werent plastered in makeup. Also I agree with wyatt, how the hell did she breath, also that looks like she is seriously going to have messed up ribs.
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Post » Fri Feb 19, 2010 1:16 pm

:stare:

Lily Loveless is gorgeous.Me and a fanbase of about 1 million or more people agree. I dunno how you can say that.

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I can say it because she looks like a boy :rofl:
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Post » Fri Feb 19, 2010 8:39 am

Angelina didn't have plastic surgery to look that way (she has probably had some now, but that's just maintenance, and you might be surprised by some of the celebrities that do that), so....... how is that unnatural beauty?

http://pwwwblog.ibeatyou.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/angelina.jpg

maybe your right, she has looked like that.

Maybe a better example would be Lady Ga Ga. (nothing against her by the way I like her music and shes surprisingly a very nice person)

but http://entertainment.msn.co.nz/img/blog/jan09/blog210109_gaga2.jpg

edit: @ betrayer of humanity http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l1vo0sDWba1qzknhxo1_500.jpg I dunno what boys look like where you live.
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Post » Fri Feb 19, 2010 9:41 pm

That looks down right painful

That hourglass figure was achieved with either corsets, tapeworms, or both.
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Post » Fri Feb 19, 2010 10:13 am

And what would you think a modern gothic look would be like ?

I would think that it would be thinner than old victorian dresses would be, some parts taken off, but many pieces kept to show a bit more recognition...i'm not that experienced in fashion's terms and such, but with less complicating pieces on it...
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Post » Fri Feb 19, 2010 7:03 am

That hourglass figure was achieved with either corsets, tapeworms, or both.
Tapeworms were probably somewhat mandatory for the lower classes anyway.
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Post » Fri Feb 19, 2010 8:00 pm

Beauty really is a strange thing. Even the arguments about its genetic basis, as far as being about selecting strong, healthy mates, are terribly thin and flimsy...despite probably being one of the stronger arguments in the area as a whole. Much of beauty is often directed toward the "shape" of a person's face, their general appearance, but that certainly has little enough to do with health. Having a big nose doesn't mean you're clearly predisposed toward heart failure. Body type and shape varies enormously in the healthy range; in the past, overweight was healthy and attractive. Today it's considered unhealthy and unattractive, while the standard for attractive is generally regarded as unhealthily thin. Neither standard has a strong link to reality, as almost any weight can potentially be healthy/not, and at the very least there's little enough difference in the "average" range, despite only a very specific area being the desired goal. Women who work out, and exercise enough to be visibly muscular, would arguably be high on the ladder of "strong, healthy" mates, yet by today's society are often openly considered offensive-looking.

And that's simply the angle of genetic preference, which immediately crumbles in the face of personal preference anyway. I've known/observed people whose personal standards of beauty encompass the entire spectrum; fat, thin, tall, short, long hair, bald, rough skin, smooth skin, young, old, pointy chin, broad jaw, bodybuilder, waif. No argument of normalcy or genetics or fashion is going to change what they find beautiful. I myself have been regarded as both attractive and not, by both straight and gay men and women, and a handful in between that silly old English has no proper words for.

Yet despite the power of personal opinion, which reasonably should be just about the only important factor, many of us let our standards be influenced, or even completely determined, by society and culture. People spend a fortune on products to make themselves look like what the TV and magazines tell them to look at. Only expensive people are to be considered beautiful, because those same commercials and ads convince everyone that that's what everyone's personal opinion is, and we buy it, even knowing how varied the real standards actually are. But those made up standards mean nothing. They're only going to change every few years as marketing recreates the definition of beautiful over and over. Even then it will still vary from region to region, culture to culture, without even going through the change in years. It's utterly meaningless. We know this, we have a word, shallow, to describe it. But we obsess anyway. People devour any bit of gossip or picture of a "beautiful" celebrity "caught" without makeup. We continue to treat physical beauty as not only a measurable product, but one so incredibly important that anyone straying for personal OR cultural standards is entirely deserving of being insulted for their failure. It really is all very strange.

The bizarre power and insanity of social beauty norms was pretty well captured by that thread about Justin Bieber and his haircut. Here we have someone that most of us only know exists by his popularity, and what's much of that popularity? Little girls screaming about his beauty. How unimportant is it to know that someone in the world is not attractive to you? How even less important is the nature of their haircut? Yet simply being aware of someone who does not fit their own standards, conflicting with the knowledge that other people are calling them beautiful anyway, with people being the fashion slaves they are, almost the entire thread was nothing but people openly despising and insulting some kid they know nothing about other than his face and maybe his voice, simply because it was the popular thing to do to find him un-beautiful by the standards of their social group.

Really, it's all another reason why I simply live as a hermit troll under a bridge. You humans are all nuts.
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Post » Fri Feb 19, 2010 3:12 pm

That hourglass figure was achieved with either corsets, tapeworms, or both.

Could have been worse, I think chinese foot binding is worse tbh.

I would think that it would be thinner than old victorian dresses would be, some parts taken off, but many pieces kept to show a bit more recognition...

I cant really picture a moder victorian outfit, it just would look out of place, dontthink it can be modernized.
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Post » Fri Feb 19, 2010 5:09 pm

Could have been worse, I think chinese foot binding is worse tbh.


I cant really picture a moder victorian outfit, it just would look out of place, dontthink it can be modernized.

now that i think of it, i dont know myself...i dont think it could work either..
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Post » Fri Feb 19, 2010 8:38 am

That hourglass figure was achieved with either corsets, tapeworms, or both.


Industrial-strength corset creating an 18-inch waist. Going about looking like that led to all sorts of skeletal, internal, and reproductive problems.
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