Well first off WOW and i second that wow with a ROFL
jumping around shooting like a crazy geezer is now considered pro ?
i know alot of people who run the 3 enhance perks and good for them
i think the only thing not to be called noob in this thread is camping M60 ****
but as you all seem so angry about people pawning you up with there setup or
you go over the top and make yourself out to be Pro **** like look 23/1 i can see that must be your best !
and makes you happy good for you brag when your getting scores like 25/0 on a regular basis i could bet you
My reputation i know atleast 5 people who would jump all over your jumping ass ! not trying to be rude but i haven't
seen much that makes me think your anything but a Rabbit Crybaby and a Egotistical Rabbit @ Cloak vs Armour hmm
well from my Experience id say Cloaks will always win against Armour the Flashing Beacons. easy to see easy to kill
there is NO such thing as a Noob maybe just players of a lower skill level like the FATE Clan or T1K or OZ C or F*** clan all lower skill levels
Why bother talking about 1 v 1 in a multiplayer i mean Jesus what a lame **** Claim to Fame talk about 6v6 and then i might be interested as a Good clan and good players Use teamwork !!! Teamwork !!! Teamwork!! and i Don't care if you think im Wrong Get 6 and hit me up with a Friend Request and ill show you what a Real Pro Team is. also im happy with the game abit more now that it seems there is now atleast some attention being shown to the Ps3 market LESS CHIT CHAT MORE COMBAT GET BACK TO THE FIGHT SOLIDER!!!!

I guess everyone wants to be pro?

Apparently Jmw_Boyz, They don't understand only a few are really good thats why none of them friend requested me cause they all play team instant action n think they good. Only guy that only plays team instant action an all those team games 24/7 is agent x the rest are garbage that play only team games.

Apparently Jmw_Boyz, They don't understand only a few are really good thats why none of them friend requested me cause they all play team instant action n think they good. Only guy that only plays team instant action an all those team games 24/7 is agent x the rest are garbage that play only team games.
Yes you're a one man army good for you. seems that you have no friends to play games with, as you seem to be a real prick.

@OP: lol I shall ask my m8 Solid-Ted to show you what a true pro is, oh and his K/D is like 5.6 and no he doesn't camp, he doesn't lag switch, no glitch, no he doesn't play CTR/Crash site, he plays TDM, oh and OP almost everyone on this game runs Stealth Enhance, Armour enchane, Weapon Pro.. If you meet him prepare to be a$$ raqed my friend..

Apparently Jmw_Boyz, They don't understand only a few are really good thats why none of them friend requested me cause they all play team instant action n think they good. Only guy that only plays team instant action an all those team games 24/7 is agent x the rest are garbage that play only team games.

Yeah I only played a few Team games, that's why my assists are really low... I earned almost all my xp, kills and wins on Instant Action...

LOL this guy thinks high kill death ratio matter. Xx_FAF_Sniper_xX is the best in the game at playing n his is 4.00 Agent X is 6.15 he plays team only yet me n him are about even on the score board n my K/D is 2.50 stfu with k/d nub rofl

lol at the little kid who thinks leaderboards actually matter/represent real skill XD

1v1s mean nothing, they don't show who is better by an means. More often than not, it is just who has the better connection. It is time to grow up and learn about online gaming and that leaderboards have nothing to do with skill. All they show is how much free time you have, and how much you can boost/manipulate your stats.
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With regards to the whole stealth abuse players, I have no respect for their play style as they are the kinds of people who cling to the easiest way of playing to show a false sense of "skill." Rarely do they actually out shoot somebody, rarely do they out maneuver somebody. All they do is run around scared, shooting people in the back. I understand that Cloak is a part of Crisis, and I have no problem with it at all. However, the blatant abuse of it by so many people to avoid fair gun fights is irritating. The worst is when the entire enemy team is using the same tactic against me and a team of newbies.

These people are the definition of noobs.

+100, you hit the nail on the coffin, ALX_00. Thanks for understanding what I was trying to get at.

1v1's DO mean something...in dedicated server games, at least (and especially ones that require extended aiming/strafing skills). Sure, they might not mean EVERYTHING, but they DO mean something. If you blow at them, it's something you can get better at. Often times, it's nerves that people need to be able to handle. With the netcode/lag problem in this game, however, I take EVERYTHING with a grain of salt.

As such, this argument of who's dope & who isn't is absolutely meaningless. Arguments might have some validity in a hack-free server on the PC, but for consoles? Forget it. Almost every time I've run up against a player that occupies a top-ish position on the leaderboards, in an FFA, they miraculously pull host over & over & over again. If not, they are at least 3-bar in a lobby full of 1 or 2 bar. It's absolutely ridiculous & disgusting. I usually STILL give them a run for their money, even though I am perpetually 1-bar.

In short, don't sweat any of this ****. Just play & have fun. Know that the flaws in the game DO influence outcomes & do your best to overcome them. And for the love of god stop complaining about Cloakers. It IS a fair fight. You have the same ability available to you. Don't get mad because you are slow on the draw. Just get better.

/end rant

-kakapoopoodoodoo

1v1's DO mean something...in dedicated server games, at least (and especially ones that require extended aiming/strafing skills). Sure, they might not mean EVERYTHING, but they DO mean something. If you blow at them, it's something you can get better at. Often times, it's nerves that people need to be able to handle. With the netcode/lag problem in this game, however, I take EVERYTHING with a grain of salt.

As such, this argument of who's dope & who isn't is absolutely meaningless. Arguments might have some validity in a hack-free server on the PC, but for consoles? Forget it. Almost every time I've run up against a player that occupies a top-ish position on the leaderboards, in an FFA, they miraculously pull host over & over & over again. If not, they are at least 3-bar in a lobby full of 1 or 2 bar. It's absolutely ridiculous & disgusting. I usually STILL give them a run for their money, even though I am perpetually 1-bar.

In short, don't sweat any of this ****. Just play & have fun. Know that the flaws in the game DO influence outcomes & do your best to overcome them. And for the love of god stop complaining about Cloakers. It IS a fair fight. You have the same ability available to you. Don't get mad because you are slow on the draw. Just get better.

/end rant

-kakapoopoodoodoo

You deserve an award for this post.

It IS a fair fight. You have the same ability available to you. Don't get mad because you are slow on the draw. Just get better.



So what you are saying is if I am killed by somebody who is camping, noobtubing, staying invisible the entire game, I should do it too? Just because you can do something, doesn't mean that every one should because it has the lowest skill to power ratio. This ruins games, it destroys all variety, and in this case, games would be full of invisible people, all running around in circle on a map.

This happened in Bioshock 2 multiplayer, (although I doubt any of you would have played that.) A few players started using a certain loadout that was easy, and brought easy kills. After a few months it is all that is left, and the game is so bland without any variation.


On 1v1s, true, they can represent skill, but only if their is a large disparity in skill level. If two players with close to the same level of skill go against each other, it proves nothing except who has the better connection, or the better day.

No. I'm not saying that.

I'm saying that the Cloak is a part of the game. Learn to deal with it or jump ship already. I mentioned nothing about 'camping, noobtubing (is this JAW or 40mm?), staying invisible the entire game'. I do find it interesting, however, that you seem to contradict yourself within the body of your first paragraph. Here you mention 'camping' & people 'running around in circles on a map'…both seem to be a concern to you. Well, which do you want?

I can tell you that in essentially all of my experience with this game I've come to realize that this is very much an R&Ger. All of the tools are there for the smart offensively-minded skillful player to break defenses and/or fortifications & most likely bulldoze over people in the process. If you blow at understanding the game as it is & how to play within it's given parameters, if you insist on clinging to some kind of unfounded sense of 'skillful' gameplay moral/ethic code, if you continue to reject the idea that even within the 'cheap' load-outs there is skill being displayed within the user group…you will continue to lose. If you don't lose, then what is wrong with making it your own personal mission to squash these 'nubs' or unskilled players? Fun can be had in many areas of the game.

You speak of variation, but your alluded assumptions make it seem like you think many games actually offer it in competitive play. That's totally bs, imho. Games when played competitively will always be broken down to the most effective strats, positions, load-outs, etc.. The people offering 'variation' are usually the people not in the know, newbies &/or terrible players. These very players sometimes annoy me to no end because they are ruining the very competitive nature of the game. I'd much rather be in a lobby full of beasts that don't hamper themselves just for some kind of false sense of gaming superiority. Then again, if they can win with their 'handicap' more power to them & I'd respect it.

Regarding 1v1's, not to beat a deadhorse, they most definitely can represent skill. Sure, the variables you listed naturally exist (welcome to online gaming!), but that's also why I believe multiple matches are needed in order to observe more accurate results. Adaption & increase in skill/awareness over time should be accounted for, imo. I find, however, that many times Western gamers are inclined to play only one 1v1 and then bounce. My experience in Japan seems to be that of the opposite. They tend to be most interested in increasing their skill, not stroking their ego. In short, prolonged 1v1's can only help BOTH users & I wish to see people partake in them as much as possible--I have very fond memories of RFoM 1v1 sessions. All of this being said, the lag in this game really makes such a thing difficult though, huh?

amen brother. amen

Very good points sir, I was really just writing out of rage and should have been thinking clearly. This game just gets to me because of my terrible connection, ( <3 mb/s Dl, 200+ ping.) This makes it difficult to play the game, especially since the matchmaking and connections in this game are rather poor to begin with. I really have nothing against the people who play certain ways....well, except for cheaters.


Again, for the point that I can do it too, I just can't bring myself to doing it. Just a personal quality that I have had all of my life, I always just want to be better, and I believe that if I can produce high quality matches without the need for the "stronger combos/loadouts" that I learn to be a better player for it. Plus it is more fun to be different.

ALX_00: You sound like a reasonable person. I like reasonable people. If you have room, feel free to add me. My PSN is 'kakapoopoodoodoo'. Maybe we can play together. I don't mind bad connections. It's kind of par for the course. (^_-)b

Also, check your PM's.

All this talk about becoming a pro and no one has the balls to play pro mode or classic mode. What a shame. I thought you people liked challenges, not to have your nanosuit baby you 24/7.

And yes, that is a challenge.

Played against Beastly101 the other night on IA Pro Mode, was fun.

yeah i like pro mode cause snipers one shot kill and im a sneaky bastard.

I'll get around to adding you whenever I have some free time. It may not be until next week, (exams.)

Did I hear PRO?! Im looking to drastically increase my skills. Its suprising no one has mentioned anything about tagging as for that is the KEY to a winning team. How wants to join up?

I'll put it like this, none is a pro unless you in the top 20 of at least 3 categories on the leader boards.
GG all of you are eliminated. Besides the few who know me personally at least.

I'll put it like this, none is a pro unless you in the top 20 of at least 3 categories on the leader boards.
GG all of you are eliminated. Besides the few who know me personally at least.

You do know that being skilled has nothing to do with leaderboards right? Leaderboards represent almost no level of skill, just how much you can manipulate your stats and how much you play. Nobody is impressed by how many free hours you have to play, and simply playing longer doesn't make you a good player, or "pro."

ALX: I'm pretty sure he knows (who wouldn't?). From what I've seen, it's his way of trying to grief/troll people. *shrug*

i think that all that talk about k/d ratios are bull$hit, I have like 1.40 and im always in top 3 (playing IA most of the time) Hell yeah, sometimes i do bad and i get pwned, but at least i dont rage quit. i think they should punish those guys by de-ranking them or something like that, dunno...
$hit, in my books 1.40 is good:-)

It's the age-old debate. Let the people that care about it, care about it & the rest just play. There are so many factors that go into the definition of a 'quality' player, IMO. KDR is definitely one those, but it's not everything. It just happens to be one of the easiest to get/define & most recognizable indicators.

Junior: Yeah, a 1.40 kdr IS good. Good stuff!