Bed of money...

Post » Thu Dec 15, 2011 1:54 pm

I am broke all of the time... how are you guys managing to sell all of your stuff? I drain all the merchant's gold really fast and it isn't that much. It is true I only loot interesting or useful items, does it take clearing out a dungeon from even trash loot to become wealthy? And then how is everything being sold, does it take fast traveling to all of the cities in succession? I guess whatever exploit is being used to become rich went right over my head!
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Dagan Wilkin
 
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Post » Thu Dec 15, 2011 9:51 pm


Maybe you could pay to build stables and then invest money in breading horses.

There should be more options to invest in shops.

Maybe we could invest in a city/village to help their econemy rather than just shops.





Yeah id like to be able to buy my own farm



I think they call that game Harvest Moon..... ;)
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Post » Thu Dec 15, 2011 11:47 am

Am I missing something?

After coming back to town after a few quests my bags are bulging with expensive sellable items, but most merchants have less than 1000g to their name, which means I do alot of travelling just to clear my bags of stuff I dont want to keep...

10 mins of travelling around gets a bit tiresome so I dont see myself becoming super rich like some of you are suggesting.

How do you guys get rid of your top shelf potions and ebony armour etc to create your fabulous wealth, if not by taking a significant amount of time visiting many merchants and trading for their measly 1000g stock of gold?

Not interested in console commands and super blatant exploits.

Cheers
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Post » Thu Dec 15, 2011 7:58 pm

I am broke all of the time... how are you guys managing to sell all of your stuff? I drain all the merchant's gold really fast and it isn't that much. It is true I only loot interesting or useful items, does it take clearing out a dungeon from even trash loot to become wealthy? And then how is everything being sold, does it take fast traveling to all of the cities in succession? I guess whatever exploit is being used to become rich went right over my head!


I only have one character that is especially wealthy (the one I have probably played the most to date) - nicknamed the good but eccentric philanthropist character. Lots of money and nothing to spend it on.

Not much in the way of fast travel (unless you count the coach), has done lots of quests, killed lots of bandits. Also for character background reasons invested in speech craft. Invested in some shops so when he called through with his stuff they would have a bit more gold to splash round.

Of course wealth came suddenly. I was in a similar boat as you, then it seemed I hit a turning point and money seemed to come easier and then I wasn't spending it anymore so it just accumulated.
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Post » Thu Dec 15, 2011 9:01 pm

I am broke all of the time... how are you guys managing to sell all of your stuff? I drain all the merchant's gold really fast and it isn't that much. It is true I only loot interesting or useful items, does it take clearing out a dungeon from even trash loot to become wealthy? And then how is everything being sold, does it take fast traveling to all of the cities in succession? I guess whatever exploit is being used to become rich went right over my head!


No, it's much easier: (short description to follow...)

1) invest 500g (perk) in the Riverwood Trader, he will have some 12.000g ready every 48h! (that cures your selling problem)
2) clear the smithing perk tree, skill 100 by smithing iron daggers

now the real money making begins:

3) aktivate the horse stone for 100 extra carry weight, and get rid of all your items, to have full storage space (aprrox 400)
4) Go to the blacksmith in Whiterun an buy all expensive ingots from Adrienne and her husband inside
5) repeat step 4) every 48 hours until your pocket is filled with the ingots
6) fast travel to Riverwood and go to the blacksmith, buy his ingots too
7) now smith items like: dwarf bow, orc armor, glass weapons, ebony bows, etc.
8) enhance every item, make shure to keep enough ingots for that in step 7)
9) now your pocket is overfilled and you can only slow-travel. No Problem, because your Riverwood trader is right next to the blacksmith
10) now sell your items, you will have to wait 48h to get the next 12k gold 2-3 times, just to sell the items! :)
11) continue with step 4)-10) until you can swim in money. I make 40.000g/hour with that method. no exploid used.
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Post » Thu Dec 15, 2011 11:52 pm

How about a salary that you have to pay to your companions regularly? Even if the companion is given to you by a Jarl, you should be paying him regularly. He/she could then act better if you give him more gold ;)
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Post » Thu Dec 15, 2011 8:34 am

My character is lvl 52, has all the houses upgraded. Now he barely has enough money every level to buy five skill points from trainers. I craft only for my needs or my companions, I am an adventurer not some damn blacksmith or enchanter. RP more, stop playing like its MMO.


Guys don't exploit the game to the max and then come here whining how easy it is. Its a single player game, its not a treadmill where you have to grind your ass to buy an item. It's made this way so people who don't want to craft like mad to be able to enjoy the game too, by normal playing.


Try to RP really. :brokencomputer:

Don't grind money, just sell whatever i come across while exploring and doing quests.
Still have more money than i know what to do with
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Post » Thu Dec 15, 2011 9:36 am

How about a salary that you have to pay to your companions regularly? Even if the companion is given to you by a Jarl, you should be paying him regularly. He/she could then act better if you give him more gold ;)


I sort of like this idea; but only if you get the gold back after they die. Followers seem to die far too easily; i've lost at least 4/5 followers so far :celebration:
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Post » Thu Dec 15, 2011 9:02 am

Am I missing something?

After coming back to town after a few quests my bags are bulging with expensive sellable items, but most merchants have less than 1000g to their name, which means I do alot of travelling just to clear my bags of stuff I dont want to keep...

10 mins of travelling around gets a bit tiresome so I dont see myself becoming super rich like some of you are suggesting.

How do you guys get rid of your top shelf potions and ebony armour etc to create your fabulous wealth, if not by taking a significant amount of time visiting many merchants and trading for their measly 1000g stock of gold?

Not interested in console commands and super blatant exploits.

Cheers


I don't use console commands as I play on Xbox and I use exploits to earn money.

I just sell things that I loot in dungeons.

I just fast travel to a couple of cities which have at least 2/3 merchants which I then sell all my stuff to; doesn't take that long. I would prefer to just have 1 merchant with enough money to sell all to.

Then problem is that there is nothing that I feel I need to buy. I'm only level 26 at the moment; I own 1 house (don't see the need for another yet) and have over 60K. I know this isn't super rich but when I constantly sell stuff and never buy anything then it soon adds up.


Maybe money should be used more in the crafting sense.

With Alchemy; the potion is stored in a bottle. You don't have to find an empty bottle so maybe the game should charge you say 10 gold per potion made to simulate buying a bottle for it.

Crafting weapons and armour in the real world would require some cleaning of the equipment or at least maintenance; maybe we should have to pay the black smith a certain amount of gold (depending on what is crafted) in order to use their equipment...
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Post » Thu Dec 15, 2011 11:41 pm

I'm now at Level 15 and has around 2600 gold. When will I start to make some real money? :)
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Post » Thu Dec 15, 2011 5:11 pm

How about a salary that you have to pay to your companions regularly? Even if the companion is given to you by a Jarl, you should be paying him regularly. He/she could then act better if you give him more gold ;)



And you could hire extra badass companions like troll or a giant for like 100 000 septims :D. but that would propably ruin up the whole experience - only if they'll be weaker than the common ones of their kind.

Another idea - taxes, rent for your house, property. Some ideas to the modders :)
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Post » Thu Dec 15, 2011 2:41 pm

I've been playing the game by simply exploring and questing; smithing only when there's a need to, such as when I've accumulated ore, leather etc. I spend money when I have it but I've never been over 10k or so and I'm Lvl 27. I've bought one home in Whiterun with all the upgrades but most of my money has gone to skill trainers. I've got no desire to sit there smithing all day, I do that all day at work (not smithing exactly but I've got my nose to the grindstone nonetheless!)
I have no gripe with people playing it their way, and I agree that this is fundamentally a flaw and should be changed as it just isn't realistic (says he with a magic bow!) But like another poster said, if you think it's too easy, don't exploit the loopholes.
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Post » Thu Dec 15, 2011 1:10 pm

I'm now at Level 15 and has around 2600 gold. When will I start to make some real money? :)


look above and read my guide.^^
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Nicole Kraus
 
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Post » Thu Dec 15, 2011 4:48 pm

i think i might actually do a non combat character and see how much money i can mmake.
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Post » Thu Dec 15, 2011 6:28 pm

Am I missing something?


How do you guys get rid of your top shelf potions and ebony armour etc to create your fabulous wealth, if not by taking a significant amount of time visiting many merchants and trading for their measly 1000g stock of gold?

Not interested in console commands and super blatant exploits.

Cheers


i heard through the graqe vine if you bring the thieves guild back to there former glory the fence there carries 4500 gold.
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Post » Thu Dec 15, 2011 6:51 pm

Some people keep saying that the only way we are having lots of money is because we are exploiting smithing etc. to get lots of money.

I am level 26 at the moment with over 60K gold.

I have never smithed, and my enchanting is maybe in the high 70's. I don't abuse this; I just sometimes collect soul gems and after I have done a dungeon; if I have a couple of soul gems filled then I will use them on my current loot just to slowly increase my enchantment skill.

I know these both can be abused (especially by using alchemy which I do not use), but just by collecting most things in dungeons and then selling them soon adds up your gold (when theres no need to buy anything as I collect everything that I use)...
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Post » Thu Dec 15, 2011 8:43 am

At this point, I have about 110 hrs in game on my main playthrough. I quickly realized it is much easier to make money in Skyrim at lower levels than it was in Oblivion. I usually only have about 30 grand on me at any give time but I am extremely wealthy in assets. However, through my own faults, offloading said assets has turned into a horrible nightmare. At this point, if I sold everything I own that I deem expendable (& still keep all named/unique arms & armor/ingredients/potions/crafting supplies), I could easily bust the 100,000 Achievement w/o breaking a sweat.

In the beginning, I scrimped & saved, & even lumbjacked a bit to buy & fully equip my 1st house in Whiterun. My intentions were to use it as a storage depot/jumping off point. After I was set up, I could now head out at a more comfortable, relaxed pace to adventure. I only bring back items that are useful for crafting or that have a decent cost to weight ratio, which is a no brainer.

When my carrying capacity is near its limit & my companion is full as well, I hit up the nearest vendors in my current area & wipe out their meager gold supplies. I then head back to Whiterun & do the same. I then off-load the rest into storage in my house.

I have everything organized in chests much like I did in Oblivion & the Fallout series. The problem I am having is that I have so much stuff left over that it will take ages of game time to even put a dent in it. My armor chests & weapons chests are literally lagging the game menu & I am afraid to put much more into them. I screwed up a Fallout playthrough once by storing so much stuff that one of my lockers menus stopped moving & would eventually crash the game. New Vegas gave us more houses so it was not as big a problem there. For now, I don't collect much unless it is to awesome to pass up.

I bought another house in Riften solely to alleviate some of the storage-lag but it is really starting to get to me. I am not big on owning every house at this point even though it wouldn't take much effort to do so. That wouldn't solve my problem anyways. I am pleased with my chosen perks but I want to use them for combat related activities & would prefer not to put them into speech merely for convenience even though I realize it would certainly help a bit.

Like I said before, its my own fault. I don't intend to keep the stuff I collect & would sell most of it in a heartbeat if I could. I just don't want to have to abuse the "wait system" or result to doing the fast travel "loop" of Skyrim to do so. Running into & out of load screens is tedious. Anyone have any pointers that they feel are effective for them?
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Post » Thu Dec 15, 2011 9:01 am

This - the loot tables are broken and the gold drops ar broken.
Even at low levels a quick skim of an easy dungeon(even on master) will net 1000g in potions and drops. I make the game a *bit* harder by only looting things that my thief character can use or would be inclined to steal.

Light armour, one handed weapons, bows, gems, gold etc.
Even with this restriction I've got more gold than I can use.

3-4 apprentice mage mobs with flawless garnets/diamond rings and soul stones?
Really?



It's all about CHOICES. Do you have to pick of the diamond ring and sell it? Nope. Do you have to grab the soul gem? Nope. They've given us freedom to do whatever we want..build our toons how we want, be rich or poor or in between..but people still complain.
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Post » Thu Dec 15, 2011 9:20 pm

Just don't pick up anything unless you yourself plan to use it or you want to give it to your companion to use. Just don't sell stuff. Problem solved.
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Post » Thu Dec 15, 2011 11:34 am

I wish there were 'items' that were of some high value, something I'd buy for my place. Gold plates, cups, ceremonial weapons (Oblivion had these..), decorative artefacts and things of that nature.

I think the coolest thing I found in the game were the skulls with glowing eyes....

Surely a mod will solve this...
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Post » Thu Dec 15, 2011 6:37 pm

I can never find enough people to sell my loot too =/ unless you are waiting however many days to re-sell in that town again... Or your abusing something :unsure2:
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Post » Thu Dec 15, 2011 2:27 pm

No, it's much easier: (short description to follow...)

1) invest 500g (perk) in the Riverwood Trader, he will have some 12.000g ready every 48h! (that cures your selling problem)
2) clear the smithing perk tree, skill 100 by smithing iron daggers

now the real money making begins:

3) aktivate the horse stone for 100 extra carry weight, and get rid of all your items, to have full storage space (aprrox 400)
4) Go to the blacksmith in Whiterun an buy all expensive ingots from Adrienne and her husband inside
5) repeat step 4) every 48 hours until your pocket is filled with the ingots
6) fast travel to Riverwood and go to the blacksmith, buy his ingots too
7) now smith items like: dwarf bow, orc armor, glass weapons, ebony bows, etc.
8) enhance every item, make shure to keep enough ingots for that in step 7)
9) now your pocket is overfilled and you can only slow-travel. No Problem, because your Riverwood trader is right next to the blacksmith
10) now sell your items, you will have to wait 48h to get the next 12k gold 2-3 times, just to sell the items! :)
11) continue with step 4)-10) until you can swim in money. I make 40.000g/hour with that method. no exploid used.


I've got to wonder why you go through all of this trouble is there isn't much use for money.

You get enough money playing the game normally (read: not purposefully grinding for cash), of course you feel like money is useless when you game the system like that. Honestly, this sounds incredibly boring.
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Post » Fri Dec 16, 2011 12:18 am

I wish there were 'items' that were of some high value, something I'd buy for my place. Gold plates, cups, ceremonial weapons (Oblivion had these..), decorative artefacts and things of that nature.

I think the coolest thing I found in the game were the skulls with glowing eyes....

Surely a mod will solve this...


What about the Dwemer cutlery and crockery? Also, the person that's killing women in Windhelm has a nice collection of interesting stuff- flutes, spoons, forks- that are, apparently, rare. I don't think you could sell them for much, but still. The item has a person's name in its title e.g. Angelina Jolie's Spoon.
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Post » Fri Dec 16, 2011 12:11 am

No, it's much easier: (short description to follow...)

1) invest 500g (perk) in the Riverwood Trader, he will have some 12.000g ready every 48h! (that cures your selling problem)
2) clear the smithing perk tree, skill 100 by smithing iron daggers


Oh, so it's an endgame thing. (I loot & sell stuff constantly, and I only got my Speech up to "invest" level after I'd cleared level 50. Smithing hit 100 at level 48)

Who cares about money when you're that far into the game? You should be rich at that point.


3) aktivate the horse stone for 100 extra carry weight, and get rid of all your items, to have full storage space (aprrox 400)
4) Go to the blacksmith in Whiterun an buy all expensive ingots from Adrienne and her husband inside
5) repeat step 4) every 48 hours until your pocket is filled with the ingots
6) fast travel to Riverwood and go to the blacksmith, buy his ingots too
7) now smith items like: dwarf bow, orc armor, glass weapons, ebony bows, etc.
8) enhance every item, make shure to keep enough ingots for that in step 7)
9) now your pocket is overfilled and you can only slow-travel. No Problem, because your Riverwood trader is right next to the blacksmith
10) now sell your items, you will have to wait 48h to get the next 12k gold 2-3 times, just to sell the items! :)
11) continue with step 4)-10) until you can swim in money. I make 40.000g/hour with that method. no exploid used.


Question - if you think there's too much money, why are you doing this "40000g/hour" thing? Really, I'm curious about why you're mass-producing money (the whole "wait, buy, craft, sell, repeat" thing isn't really "playing" the game. It's metagaming cash production.)



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How I earn money:
The way I've managed to keep selling loot when they ran out of cash was to buy small, expensive, and possibly useful things. Barter. So, I might turn my load of loot into all the cash available in Whiterun, plus some Glass arrows and a couple filled Grand soulgems.

I think my main character's cash stats are around 400-500k total gained throughout the game, and ~160k max at one time. Own three houses, upgraded. (in the mid 50's)

I'm fine with having a bunch of cash. I consider it a sign of success. Personally, I've never really had much understanding of the "but I must SPEND it on something!" urge, but that's a difference in personality traits. :tongue:
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Post » Thu Dec 15, 2011 10:44 pm

In the beginning, I scrimped & saved, & even lumbjacked a bit to buy & fully equip my 1st house in Whiterun. My intentions were to use it as a storage depot/jumping off point. After I was set up, I could now head out at a more comfortable, relaxed pace to adventure. I only bring back items that are useful for crafting or that have a decent cost to weight ratio, which is a no brainer.

When my carrying capacity is near its limit & my companion is full as well, I hit up the nearest vendors in my current area & wipe out their meager gold supplies. I then head back to Whiterun & do the same. I then off-load the rest into storage in my house.

I have everything organized in chests much like I did in Oblivion & the Fallout series.


This all sounds very familiar. :D

The problem I am having is that I have so much stuff left over that it will take ages of game time to even put a dent in it. My armor chests & weapons chests are literally lagging the game menu & I am afraid to put much more into them. I screwed up a Fallout playthrough once by storing so much stuff that one of my lockers menus stopped moving & would eventually crash the game. New Vegas gave us more houses so it was not as big a problem there. For now, I don't collect much unless it is to awesome to pass up.


This doesn't, though. Wow.... I thought I was a big packrat, but I've never run into an issue like that. Condolences. :sadvaultboy:
(Only chest that I really know how much stuff is in it is my alchemy chest, because I keep accidentally doing "take all" and having to put it all back. That's around 800lbs of stuff. Of course, it may be less of a load because so much of it is stacked multiples, like 340 salt. Hmm.)
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