The whole scribe thing isn't really of much importance to me, but some Legionnaires have had a run-in with a Paladin/s... and prevailed.

Huh? When did that happen?

Remember I said in a defensive position....... Meaning the tribals have to go to him.

Lore wise it would be worse. The united states government created power armour so small arm have little chance of doing any damage at all. none.

In lore it is said 1 bos paladin can destroy an entire town with out getting a scratch.

You better stick with a mixture of game play and lore, because pure lore cl has nothing that will even hurt bos. It would be bos 25 000 kills cl 0 kills.

Heh I brought that up earlier rook, apparently its okay for cl to break lore though...

It's worth pointing out that the Legion's military works at its best when their enemies are on the defense. Besides, if they're as superior as you claim them to be, how come they didn't stay and fight the Legion when they won the 2nd battle? That is if they won the 2nd battle and you didn't destroy the BoS bunker.






When did I ever break lore?

When you said cl coulc take on the BoS...

You realise the endings slides are given as a reward for your playthrough of the game.
They HAVE to show victorious elements for whichever side you choose..

How bad would it look and how annoyed would the loyal cl fans be if shortly after the victory of hoover dam the BoS, seeing their chances seize control of hoover dam, however their stay was cut short by the late arrival of ncr reinforcements.

Using ending slides to back your case up is kinda foolhardy, but since the legion is so weak I guess it does give the 'fans' a small semblance of hope that they aren't really s weak as they actually are.

Meh. That is in a post NCR Mojave, but it probably wouldn't make a huge difference. Good point.

I'd still like to know what a Boomer controlled Vegas would look like.

we do not know that a Centurion has ever killed a bos Paladin. There is no mention of it in game. They have a shoulder piece of t 45 d. nv bos has t51b mid west bos has mk ll and what looks like t51b.

It would be easier to gauge who they killed if they all didn t have the same pieced together armour on. I say it came from ncr heavy troopers in the first battle of the dam.

The only people we know cl has killed are tribals and ncr. That is it....

Its not their fault the devs did such a crappy job with their equipment.

If I was there to help make cl ........ Then they d be seen as dangerous, but still be like the Roman Legions.

They didn t check with me though........... so this is your cl weak

It's stated in one of the loading screens and the official strategy guide; It's lore.

Irrelevant, doesn't happen?

You do realise that this very stament applies to all endings except one. I'm well aware that what I said doesn't happen, I wrote it as a kind of explanation as to why victorious endings are shown... :facepalm:

Like I said, using ending slides before an actual canon ending is put forward by the devs is pointless, the butterfly effect means that one small change in one aspect can have huge ramafication on others.
Basing your arguments on things that may never/could never happen is neither valid or relevant.

Edit: The loading screen actuall just says pieced together from fallen foes, doesn't say which foes, Rook actually makes sense there, The BoS don't use that kind of armor, ncr do...

I'm fully aware it's not canon, but it's what would have happened if faction X won battle Y. It may not be canon, but it's still a viable example.

CL would over run nellis. Send 20 000 men at nellis and then cl is over the fence. Once over the fence boomers are done. They only have explosive weapons, and very low dt armour. CL would get the boomers. They would lose some men getting in there, but they would get in there, and all explosive weapons is a very dumb tactical choice. It limits where you can go, what you can do. CL gets the boomers IMO

It's not, its a reward for playing the game.
Its a way for the devs to show the actions you chose in your playthrough actually had consequences in the end, the devs don't mean for all of them to be taken literally or as factual evidence... Jeeze.

I love how the Legion can take control of what amounts to 4 U.S. states (Give or take) but a single Brotherhood chapter, that's where you guys draw the line? That's utterly hilarious.

Thats because they conquered tribals, the first time they encounter a proper enemy (ncr) they get their asses handed to them...

Any sources that confirm this? If not, I'll see it as a cop-out and not worth anything.



Due to an inflexible leader.

I have over 600 hrs in that game. I have read every loading screen like 100 times at least, and I have never seen cl and bos mentioned in the same loading screen. Did Bethesda or Obsidian make a strategy guide? If not its not official... IDK I would never use one. If it is not published by Bethesda or Obsidian any story telling it does is worthless in fo world.

1. You mean apart from others games with multiple endings completely ignoring all but one ending when a sequel is made?

2. Actually they only came close due to an outside factor affecting the ncr, if it weren't for the divide ncr wouldn't have even had to outsmart the legion, they could have just curbstomped them head on.

It stated that their armor is constructed from various pieces of armors they've taken from their killed foes.




1. Cop-out it is then. Nice one bro.

2. Irrelevant, they lost the first battle because of Graham. What you're talking about is the aftermath.

Doesn't say who the foes are though, thinking about it, it kinda makes sense to be the ncr heavy troopers.
They have definitely fought them before and the armors are a perfect match.

What? This is pretty goofy. While we don't know what of the ending slides are canon all of the ending slides are possible depending upon your choices. The devs didn't just write them as fantasies to satiate players who picked a certain side. That's why the faction you choose to support at the Dam can often get screwed over in some circumstances depending on the choices you made.

Thats exactly my point though, the devs created these to reflect your choices, would be kind of boring if the endings ignored our choices.
Doesn't mean we should base 'lore' arguments off of things that never/can't happen.

So they took the shoulders, left the rest and the NCR got a hold of that? Riiiigght. Weird coincidence though.

Yeah I never actually noticed the shoulder part on the centurion armor.
Damn I guess it just goes back to being lore breaking then :sadvaultboy:

Still I guess it still only means they killed a few t45 BoS?