Not one single thing about any faction that is even near the end of the game can be used for anything at this moment. Any choice you made ruined the use of that place for factual discussion.

We don t even know about Goodsprings let alone anything near the 75 endings. All we know is the we killed Benny. No wait I think there was a choice to let him go. We know nothing. All we know from playing that game is who House is, and what stories were told. We do not know anything about that game. NCR and CL are going to have another war. CL took 2 towns and messed up Searchlight and has a spy in the NCR. NCR has captured 1 centurion shoots cl trying to cross the river. That is all we know about the build up to the war.

Wait, it's actually the entire right arm of the T-45d PA they take. That kind of debunks the whole NCR theory, doesn't it?




These are what-ifs made by the the developers themselves, not frickin' fanfiction.

Aww man, forums svck it's 04:53

I hate getting drawn into long debates like this :S

We know they took 2 states and parts of two others full of nothing but tribals. That does not impress me sorry.


Now again if the would have called me I would have had some impressive lore worth talking about. I don t believe they could have possibly only ran into tribals, but again they didn t call me.

There is just no way this is all cl is........ its horrible. They had to have made them this weak and dumb on purpose.

They could have been something......... they could have been contenders. They should have called me. cl would have been a lot better in every single way. Besides Nipton that was good......

A single bos chapter is like 2 states and half of 2 other states full of tribals. I didn t make cl so dumb and weak. I didn t make their lore slaughtering tribals. Obsidian did........... If I was there cl would understand ranged weapons and melee. They would have found old military bases and had better weapons. The blacksmith instead of sharpening lawn mower blades would be making triple titanium kevlar coated 25dt Legion shields, and they would have dead on archers that shot flaming arrows. Its not my fault Obsidian wanted them to be weak scrubs that beat a bunch of tribals up.

BOS are soilders with 1 hit kill weapons. They wear armour developed pre war to not be effected by small arms fire.

I know not to underestimate the size of a BoS chapter, I still find it utterly ridiculous. Still, the Legion are in possession of a wide array of weapons, so I still don't see a problem there. That "Lawnmower blade and skirt" nonsense is beyond tiring now.

I think the Legion would have a tougher time with the BoS then the NCR, but I honestly think it would just depend on a couple things.

-Legion Equipment (This is really fuzzy in game because they use to be tougher to the player where as in Lore they are skilled in melee with alright gun skills.)
-Legion Awareness (When does Caesar find the BoS or does he even find them at all?)
-Legion Worth (Does CL think it's a frontal assault on the BoS is worth it?)
-BoS Numbers (With the NCR not coming into Mojave until later are them numbers pf the BoS greater or about the same?)


If we're doing a BoS vs Legion/NCR then here are the reasons I think NCR has a slight advantage.
-NCR Basic Equipment (Most if not all the NCR Troopers I've seen have Basic Trooper Armor and a Service Rifle which is slightly better then CL Recruits with their Recruit Armor and Machete/10mm Pistol in which the Legion rarely use guns in game.)
-Service Rifles (Those "Pea Shooters" add up plus the ability to remain in cover while attacking a tank is a huge advantage compared to the Machete and does more damage then a 10mm Pistol)

If I had to guess I think the Legion would lose about 2x as the NCR would loose unless maybe you throw in guerrilla warfare which is a whole different ball game. All this is just speculation however and none of us really have any idea how the fights would actually pan out. We need to have a program like Deadliest Warrior :rofl: .

But if your lore argument is about whether or not the Legion could overcome a BOS chapter and there's a possible ending to New Vegas that has them doing just that then it's pretty obvious that the Legion can overcome a BOS chapter because that can occur according to the game devs. The guys who come up with the lore. This doesn't mean they did canonically but it certainly means they are capable of it.

All the endings obviously didn't occur but all are possible.

I disagree.... People like me are put through the pain of no real ending to a story so other people can have fun back packing everyone ftw. I personally do not find it fun. Further more I don t think all the outcomes are possible.

I don t think cl can possibly beat NCR in a dead up fight up and down the river. NCR is playing D. They have on the fly command and control, and way way way better equipment.

I got bos down at the dam and cl did not make it out of the door.

They have one vertibird.

NCtRooper: Service Rifle

Legionnaire scout: Hunting Rifle
Explorer: Hunting Rifle
Prime: Hunting Shotgun, Hunting Rifle, Marksman Carbine
Recruit: Cowboy Repeater
Assassin: Sniper Rifle
Decanus: 10mm SMG


And that is excluding Centurions and Veterans, the equivalents of Desert Rangers.

I never said anything about there clothes, but the blacksmith is sharpening a lawnmower blade with a handle tied to it.

Look the don t put out enough fire to stop bos from killing them with ease. Run up to a bos Paladin. He is in a machine....... He is stronger than 99% of cl. A chainsaw won t ignore the pa in a lore fight. The bos guy will give you a forearm of pa, then rip the chainsaw out of your grasp and start cutting people up.

Only the guys with the ballistic fists and centurions have a chance. The gaurd guys are Ceasers personal body gaurds they won t be there. I guess there are not that many Centurions, because you figure more would have been in nv

I still stand by the "Big warehouse of Shoulder Plates" idea, but if they killed BoS soldiers in lore, than i'm wrong.

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