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Post » Mon Aug 09, 2010 8:55 am

http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Legion_Centurion_armor


How upset would you be if it turns out that these pieces are simply scavenged from abandoned bunkers etc..
I've seen that page a few times, I don't however remember anyone ingame stating that these armors are actually pieced together from fallen foes..
Another instance of the wiki writer just putting in assumptions I think..
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Skrapp Stephens
 
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Post » Mon Aug 09, 2010 7:16 pm

Ok let me make this simple for you

NCR is in the West. Mojave is in the Middle. Legion are in the East.

For the Legion to get to NCR which they want to Conquer they have to go through the Middle. Is that dumbed down enough for you?


http://www.newmapworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/map_of_the_united_states_of_america.gif
Just in case you weren't aware that going from flagstaff to california via las vegas isn't exactly the optimal route.
It's funny how people tend to get snappy when they can't force their opinions on others huh..
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Post » Mon Aug 09, 2010 10:11 am

How upset would you be if it turns out that these pieces are simply scavenged from abandoned bunkers etc..
I've seen that page a few times, I don't however remember anyone ingame stating that these armors are actually pieced together from fallen foes..
Another instance of the wiki writer just putting in assumptions I think..


Nope, pieces taken from their fallen enemies. It's stated in one of the loading screens.

And possibly in the official strategy guide if my memory serves me right.
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Post » Mon Aug 09, 2010 12:23 pm

http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Legion_Centurion_armor

http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/T-51b_power_armor_%28Fallout:_New_Vegas%29

http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Paladin_%28Fallout%3A_New_Vegas%29
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Post » Mon Aug 09, 2010 2:57 pm

Nope, pieces taken from their fallen enemies. It's stated in one of the loading screens.

And possibly in the official strategy guide if my memory serves me right.


Yeah actually thats right I remember now, its stated in a loading screen.
No wonder I couldn't remember any dialogue, well then thats even easier for bethesda to retcon via a dlc then huh lol
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Post » Mon Aug 09, 2010 3:17 pm

http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/T-51b_power_armor_%28Fallout:_New_Vegas%29

http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Paladin_%28Fallout%3A_New_Vegas%29


Completely irrelevant.
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Post » Mon Aug 09, 2010 7:05 pm

Completely irrelevant.

Lol not hardly. Completely relevant.
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Post » Mon Aug 09, 2010 7:05 am

"We had them outnumbered like what...20-1, put up a hell of a fight though...by the time we had reinforcements they were gone"
-NCR officer

"We were holding them back, but by then they had more men than we had ammo."
BoS Paladin

"Helios-One was the worst G*d-damn action I've seen in a long, long career of fighting."
Senior Paladin Hardin

Doesn't sound like an expeditionary force.


Expeditionary force can range in size from small to great. I used that word simpy because when NCR first got the the Mojave it was pretty much to take out any local tribals and raiders. They did not send everything they had, they never sent everything they had to stop the legion lol. NCR was not expecting to deal with anything as powerful as the Legion.

Still you helped prove my point for something else I said. Main reason why the BoS lost was they simply ran out of ammo. It is safe to say that the Legion's armies marching through the Mojave to invade NCR will be "more men than they have ammo."
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Post » Mon Aug 09, 2010 6:23 pm

Lol not hardly. Completely relevant.


Sorry bro it's lore that Legionnaires have defeated paladins, despite their power armor.
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Post » Mon Aug 09, 2010 5:00 pm

Lol not hardly. Completely relevant.


Actully Ace I think he has a point, if only the Americans had dressed their soldiers in skirts and given them machetes, wow imagine how quickly they could have taken Alaska back from the chinese...
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Post » Mon Aug 09, 2010 8:42 am

Sorry bro it's lore that Legionnaires have defeated paladins, despite their power armor.

Sorry dude legionnaires don't defeat BOS paladins(elites) only "Centurions" do...(apparently)
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Post » Tue Aug 10, 2010 12:11 am

Sorry dude legionnaires don't defeat BOS paladins(elites) only "Centurions" do...(apparently)


Still Legionnaires regardless.


Actully Ace I think he has a point, if only the Americans had dressed their soldiers in skirts and given them machetes, wow imagine how quickly they could have taken Alaska back from the chinese...


Whine all you want broham, I'll just stick to lore.
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Post » Mon Aug 09, 2010 7:12 pm

Actully Ace I think he has a point, if only the Americans had dressed their soldiers in skirts and given them machetes, wow imagine how quickly they could have taken Alaska back from the chinese...


I am going to dumb this down for you, make it nice and simple.

Legion have more men then the Mojave chapter has Bullets = Legion Win.

The Legion have to go through the Mojave to invade and conquer NCR. It is the only way other then going all they way around the Big Empty/Divide. No NCR in the Mojave = Easy time for Legion.
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Post » Tue Aug 10, 2010 12:28 am

Still Legionnaires regardless.




Whine all you want broham, I'll just stick to lore.


Which lore? The lore that has Power armor and the BoS paladins as meaner than hell

Or the lore that recently appeared in FONV thats states a skirt wearing tribal can take down a 'tank'

Yeah, I think I now know how much you respet lore, the lore that helps your beliefs anyway...
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Post » Mon Aug 09, 2010 12:23 pm


Whine all you want broham, I'll just stick to lore.

The "lore" is the biggest bunch of bull. It needs some fixing up.
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Post » Mon Aug 09, 2010 1:41 pm

Which lore? The lore that has Power armor and the BoS paladins as meaner than hell

Or the lore that recently appeared in FONV thats states a skirt wearing tribal can take down a 'tank'

Yeah, I think I now know how much you respet lore, the lore that helps your beliefs anyway...


Not saying that Legion trooper > Power armor

I'm saying it has happened and when it comes down to it is just another obstacle that the Legion can overcome.
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Post » Mon Aug 09, 2010 5:26 pm

I am going to dumb this down for you, make it nice and simple.

Legion have more men then the Mojave chapter has Bullets = Legion Win.

The Legion have to go through the Mojave to invade and conquer NCR. It is the only way other then going all they way around the Big Empty/Divide. No NCR in the Mojave = Easy time for Legion.


Well Styles that just makes no fricken sense at all, if mojave was the way to get ncr reserves in the easiest they would have had the reinforcements..
It's the fact the the divide and the big empty are in 'the way' of ncr territory and the mojave that made the ncr have to trick the legion into the boulder city trap in the first place.. :facepalm:
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Post » Mon Aug 09, 2010 9:01 pm

Not saying that Legion trooper > Power armor

I'm saying it has happened and when it comes down to it is just another obstacle that the Legion can overcome.


No, your choosing one lore over another, the one that makes the legion seems better than they are, even though the 'established lore' had power armor as an american superweapon and the BOS as elite wearers of it...
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Post » Mon Aug 09, 2010 1:32 pm

Not saying that Legion trooper > Power armor

I'm saying it has happened and when it comes down to it is just another obstacle that the Legion can overcome.

When it comes down to it thats the only thing there good at. They can defeat BOS paladins but not simple NCR soldiers and NCR vets...
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Post » Tue Aug 10, 2010 1:39 am

Ok BoS fans. There is away to win against a tank. It is called siege war. Cut that tank off from Gas (food, water, ammo) the tank becomes useless. NCR did this, the Legion can as well.

Why is it that most people on here only think in terms of head on attacks? The Legion show they are able to think outside the Box when it come to war. They may be in skirts but they have a brain in their head. They can' figure out all they have to do is cut the BoS off. Or a war of attrition. Simple numebrs Legion have more, hundreds if not thousands more and are willing to throw wave after wave at an enemy if need be.

If NCR can do it, the Legion can as well. Casualty numbers may be different but the outcome will be the same. Victory for the Legion.
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Post » Mon Aug 09, 2010 1:08 pm

No, your choosing one lore over another, the one that makes the legion seems better than they are, even though the 'established lore' had power armor as an american superweapon and the BOS as elite wearers of it...


And some Legionnaires have been known to kill some of these "elite wearers". I really don't see the problem here. This has nothing to do with disregarding lore over other lore....
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Post » Mon Aug 09, 2010 11:22 pm

Victory for the Legion.

Cant believe i heard that from you styles...sniffle...

@Mr.body machine yes one lore is better than the other(the one stating that BOS are tanks and are elite) the other about the centurions about killing them is just some nice polish on the Legion to make them look good and not totally useless.
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Post » Mon Aug 09, 2010 12:05 pm

Ok BoS fans. There is away to win against a tank. It is called siege war. Cut that tank off from Gas (food, water, ammo) the tank becomes useless. NCR did this, the Legion can as well.

Why is it that most people on here only think in terms of head on attacks? The Legion show they are able to think outside the Box when it come to war. They may be in skirts but they have a brain in their head. They can' figure out all they have to do is cut the BoS off. Or a war of attrition. Simple numebrs Legion have more, hundreds if not thousands more and are willing to throw wave after wave at an enemy if need be.

If NCR can do it, the Legion can as well. Casualty numbers may be different but the outcome will be the same. Victory for the Legion.


Except 'lore-wise' skirt wearing tribals shouldn't be able to cut off anything from the BoS.
Given your opposition to FEV being on the east coast because it breaks lore I'm having a little trouble believing your posts here tbh.
They're 'way' more lore breaking than that FEV deal.. :S
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Post » Tue Aug 10, 2010 2:41 am

Well Styles that just makes no fricken sense at all, if mojave was the way to get ncr reserves in the easiest they would have had the reinforcements..
It's the fact the the divide and the big empty are in 'the way' of ncr territory and the mojave that made the ncr have to trick the legion into the boulder city trap in the first place.. :facepalm:


I don't know how I can dumb this down enough for you to understand it.

NCR can't send troops in from the North because of the Divide and Big Empty. Which means the Legion can't invade that way. NCR has to send troops around and through the Rocky Montains and the podwer gangers stopped work on the rail line.

Still it is the only way for the Legion to invade and CONQUER NCR, which is their Goal. The Mojave is not the main target of the Legion. Caesar will not stop once he takes the Mojave. He wants all of NCR. This means Mojave will be the only way to send troops into the NCR. So Legion armies will flood the Mojave.

Simple enough? Do I need to get out the hand puppets and a whiteboard?
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Post » Mon Aug 09, 2010 10:54 pm

If lore stated that the Great Khans farted nuclear explosions then that would be final. Lore states some Legionnaires have won a battle against a BoS paladin at some point in time. I'm not pulling things out my rectum unlike some of guys, I'm just simply stating lore, like it or not.

Complain to Obsidian, not me.
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