Before watching E3, I just want everyone to remember:

Post » Thu Nov 26, 2015 8:37 pm

http://i.imgur.com/UWQKBEt.jpg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjbx6-KQoRg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZvJtSx0_VlQ

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vanuza
 
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Post » Thu Nov 26, 2015 7:24 pm

Didn't he also say that Fallout 3 would have hundreds of endings?

Either way you are right we shouldn't believe everything he/they tell us.

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barbara belmonte
 
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Post » Thu Nov 26, 2015 4:01 pm

So if he says something like, "There is character customization", we should consider it a lie? :tongue:
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Lucky Boy
 
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Post » Fri Nov 27, 2015 12:02 am

The truth worries me more than any lie Todd could fabricate...

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Melung Chan
 
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Post » Thu Nov 26, 2015 8:05 pm

What exactly did he lie about?

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des lynam
 
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Post » Fri Nov 27, 2015 6:13 am

Don't worry everyone! You can trust https://youtu.be/gtlyMagZhXA?t=23s

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Abi Emily
 
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Post » Thu Nov 26, 2015 5:21 pm

Mmk.
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Amanda Furtado
 
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Post » Fri Nov 27, 2015 2:14 am

You're new here, aren't you?

If you own Oblivion, you know the entire video of it's E3 presentation I linked is fabricated and heavily scripted. None of it is true, save for the very basic stuff like how topics work.

Honestly, if you want, we could make a catalog of all of the lies Todd Howard has spewed throughout the years.

I'll start us off with "You can effect Riverview's economy by killing off the sawmill workers! The game will react to it!"

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Britta Gronkowski
 
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Post » Thu Nov 26, 2015 9:57 pm

eh, it麓s E3, salesman like over-glorifying of the game is norm, just bring a fist full of salt and you'll be fine

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Dawn Farrell
 
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Post » Fri Nov 27, 2015 6:22 am

If we're giving cautionary reminders to everyone, here's mine:

You've got to want to like something before you can actually like it.

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Kathryn Medows
 
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Post » Thu Nov 26, 2015 7:25 pm

@LongKnife- 'You can do whatever you want, be whatever you want to be'. Yet the MQ is forced onto our menu whether we like it or not.
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Susan Elizabeth
 
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Post » Thu Nov 26, 2015 9:21 pm

So you think he's a liar, but you're interested to play his game. Lol!

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Manny(BAKE)
 
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Post » Thu Nov 26, 2015 9:21 pm

Regardless, it's good advice all the same. For all I care, Todd could be talking about real features that he desperately wanted in the game that got pulled 2 weeks before release; he'd STILL have a track record with giving us unreliable info.

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Post » Thu Nov 26, 2015 4:26 pm

Funny :D

But Bethesda didn't make Fallout and Fallout 2.

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Post » Fri Nov 27, 2015 4:56 am

http://www.bit-tech.net/news/gaming/2008/03/26/fallout_3_to_have_over_200_endings/1

For one he said that Fallout 3 had over 200 endings from the time of the article and that it was not an exaggeration. I sure as hell didn't see over 200 hundred endings though.

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Matt Bee
 
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Post » Thu Nov 26, 2015 3:13 pm

Meh, it's BGS, i know exactly what to expect: great for gameplay, if no sense making world, nice looking weapons, monsters and other stuff, atmospheric music, and crappy, half-assed, not worth the bother everything else :happy:
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Post » Thu Nov 26, 2015 9:54 pm

It's E3 nobody expects the truth.

I expect some of this though: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mABmZETHaRE

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Darrell Fawcett
 
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Post » Thu Nov 26, 2015 2:57 pm

I forgot that about Oblivion. Thanks
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sophie
 
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Post » Fri Nov 27, 2015 7:22 am

And that is what we call a burn............ :touched:

Seriously though. Yes, Todd Howard has been known to stretch the truth. In fairness, to him, when he gave that Oblivion presentation, what he was saying WAS true. They just had to change it for the final game because it turns out having NPCs that get into things based off their own AI tends to throw monkey-wrenches into everything. Not to mention, from the player's point of view, it LOOKS broken.

Overall, each of Bethesda's E3 presentations have been very representative of the final game. Take any grand statements with a grain of salt, but gameplay shown is likely to hold very true.

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Post » Thu Nov 26, 2015 8:38 pm

It is more to remind people not to fall for all the hype because it is often exaggerated or out right lies. The forums will explode over E3 and much of the discussions that will take place will be over nothing.

So yes it is exciting but lets not forget that there is a great chance we will just have smoke blown at us.

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Post » Fri Nov 27, 2015 1:46 am

I think a good number of folks on this forum can tell the difference between what is for real and what is over blown hype to try and sell the game (though there are certainly people here that are going to defend everything The Todd says and those who are going to tear everything he says apart).
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Post » Thu Nov 26, 2015 11:51 pm

You are an entitled, naive, juvenile, bitter, spiteful [censored]. You've clearly never worked a day in your life and have no notion of what real responsibility is, or the compromises it can necessitate. Grow up.

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Post » Fri Nov 27, 2015 1:48 am

Don't trust 'any' developer/publisher that doesn't regularly communicate with its fans on the forums or on social media.

The more tightlipped they are and the less they actively communicate with their fans the more grain of salt you should take with everything they say.

And Bethesda barely ever communicate on the forums and are extremely tightlipped.

Ya'll gonna need scoops of salt for Fallout 4.

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Ryan Lutz
 
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Post » Fri Nov 27, 2015 4:16 am

If you really stretch things, and do this:
Spoiler

LW with good karma
-cleaned the water
-poisoned the water
-had Sarah clean the water
-had Sarah poison the water
-let the purifier blow up
LW with neutral karma
-cleaned the water
-poisoned the water
-had Sarah clean the water
-had Sarah poison the water
-let the purifier blow up
LW with bad karma
-cleaned the water
-poisoned the water
-had Sarah clean the water
-had Sarah poison the water
-let the purifier blow up

That's still only like 15 endings total. And really, that's a massive stretch considering karma doesn't matter and all it changes is the tone Pearlman takes with us.
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Post » Thu Nov 26, 2015 11:48 pm

And now the thread will be locked.
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