i rather have a quick clean kill, removing someone's every limb and leaving them there is a fate worse than death i rather be killed then and there. there was no doctor there to heal you either back then. A removed limb usually ment death.

mabey to undead or a finishing move but other than that it just dosen't belong.

I prefer nailing people to a cross and then removing their vital organs with a spork.

You people are a funny lot.

Personally, I don't give a rat's ass about dismemberment. As long as violence isn't ridiculous or anything, I'm fine with it.

I'm glad, for some reason it wouldn't feel like TES

Finishing move/decapitation to Undead would be fine.

Actually, yeah. it does seem a bit out of place.

It's actually pretty difficult to cut limbs and heads off. It often took three or more chops to execute people by beheading.

I'm not upset that it isn't in. I'm actually somewhat happy about it. It means less dumb questions from my roommates.

I'm actually very glad that it's not implemented... I find such features unnecessary and "childish", if you will... Perhaps immature is a more proper term.

Yay! :celebration:

Im so Happy there will be No Gore :celebration:

I don't want to kill people at all. I just want to play a game. If that game involves virtually killing virtual people, that's fine, but I don't play those games in order to make believe that I'm really killing real people, so if the killing looks less than realistic, I'm fine with that.

Heh. I like the way you think. That's a good way of doing it. Have dismemberment for undead only. That way people can get their fix.

The skeletons in oblivion had a nice kind of "falling apart" feel.

I'm wondering why I keep coming on this forum just to see people getting upset over mundane details. I'm a glutton for punishment, I guess.

Was it this bad during the wait between Morrowind --> Oblivion?

I agree, I really like killing my foe with a sword by stabbing him and cutting him, as if I really had a sword. It should be as brutal as it sounds.

and it M rated so people that can play M rated games should be able to handle it

cause really big sharp axe + head = head flying off and blood shooting out

in a battle I want it because it makes combat more satisfying , and no I don't like killing critters or innocent NPCs even in a game

when I played thief I finished all 3 parts without a single human kill only guys I had to kill were the undead *shiver* and the crazy ass statues cause I could not knock them out.

but when I use my sword or blast some one with lightning i want to see some realistic effects on them, so I hit him hard on the neck and his head falls off OPS, or i zap someone and his eyes burn out and his brain liquefies out of his ears big deal [censored] happens in combat.

I couldnt care less.... its not realistic at all, and quite frankly it looked awful in fallout 3 and New Vegas, at least in my opinion.

Come-on guys, this isn't a big issue, I doubt that they haven't included it because they can't (see fallout 3) or because they don't think it fits into the ES as a series (it certainly wouldn't be out of place for undead to come apart). I'm willing to bet money that the reason it isn't in is because they decided not to spend time on a new game-play element like detachable limbs in their new engine when they could spend the time on other more important things.
Think about the work that would be involved to make limbs detachable. I don't really know that much about the tech, but even I can see that detaching limbs would require two separate physics entities to exist where a second ago there was one. It's not an easy addition, and I would bet they wanted to spend time elsewhere. It was good for fallout, but not a priority in ES.

i think the distinct lack of visceral combat in oblivion has us all clamoring for something with a little more punch, and dismemberment is certainly an effective way of making combat more satisfying. its not the only way of course, but from what we've seen of bandits getting slashed in the throat and not reacting, a bit more gore certainly wouldnt hurt the game; non-interactive finishers just arent enough for me.

:shrug:

40 year old male here. I'm sure I could "handle" it (well, at least if it wasn't too excessive - I don't really do horror movies or the more splatter-filled R action flicks), but honestly? I'd rather not. And I certainly don't seek out such things, proclaiming that they're "awesome". Don't really understand that viewpoint at all.

If I were in actual real life combat with someone and it was kill or be killed, I'd try to take their head off.

...Was'nt that confirmed months ago anyways? :shrug:

Being a guy who has actually trained with longswords/maces/lance ect (i worked at medieval times age 18-21 to help pay for college...now i'm 22 and work IT...and still got to college )

A clean kill is never possible, albeit i never gutted anyone....

Fights between two people who know what their doing can last for a good amount of time. So duels meant to kill would start off with some major cuts and then the first one to tire of those cuts dies, and the kills would hardly ever be clean.

Normally bodies would be highly damaged with breaks, massive cuts, and possibly some limb loss before the person would die.


Also immersion is nice.

All i want is a simulation level (aka real real not video game real) amount of damage to be displayed on the bodies of my foes; because i wish to crush my enemies, to see them driven before me and to hear the lamentation of their women.

To live out fantasies of barbarism and blood to loot, pillage and burn.

Nah, bad idea, generally. Just stab them in the guts, way bigger of a target and they usually fall down from pain at once anyway. Who cares that it'll take a few weeks of agony for them to finally die of their wounds? Live by the sword, die by the sword, as they say.

I still haven't read anything that decisively mentioned that there will be no dismemberment; although admittedly I've not searched very thoroughly.

I would like to throw my two cents into the ring regarding the appropriateness of such barbaric brutality in Skyrim. I believe it has been mentioned that Conan, vikings and such have been earmarked as influences while designing this part of the lore. From Beowulf to barbarians, brutality is common fare, often with the intended effect of driving fear into the rest of one's foes. As far as existing games in this genre go, I thought Blade of Darkness handled dismemberment very well; you could pick up and throw the severed parts, or taunt other enemies with them.

I would also like to point out, that while I usually play the part of the 150lb. thief, whom I would not expect to be lopping off heads to and fro, if, said 150lb. thief, was beset upon by "seven-foot-of-ugly", wielding an executioner's axe, I wouldn't be the least bit surprised to see something cleaved from whence it came.

Lastly, while I would prefer this feature to exist in the vanilla, lovingly created, original game, I would be MOST pleased if it was a fairly rare incident. If such things as "critical hits" are occurring under the hood, perhaps only when a foe is offed by such a strike. Or even better, perhaps borrow a page from AD&D and Lewis Carrol and include rare, "Vorpal" weapons, which have a slight chance of dealing such a killing blow.

And I refuted it. Dismemberment is realistic, and it occurs often enough in unprotected parts (neck, for example). You didn't seem to reply to it.


I agree that gore would make the game more satisfacting. The worst thing you can do to a person is killing, isn't it? So why do people have so many problems with decapitation and dismemberment while they have none with killing? Better to be without a hand than without your life. And if you disagree, you can always take your life.

Bleeding to death is quite quick, if a major blood vessel is severed, death can occur in less than 2 minutes. I imagine losing a leg would be even quickier.

indeed

so whats the point of finishing move if they are pretty much the same

stab, stab, stab, stabity stab...etc

really what the hell did Todd mean by finishing moves ???!!