My belief on the Daedric Princes

Post » Mon May 02, 2011 4:00 am

Alright so we know there are around 16 known Princes, but that's just it, their Princes, usually where there is a Prince there is someone to keep them in check or have absolute rule, so what I'm saying is this.

Wouldn't it make sense that there might be a Daedric King or some form of higher power in Oblivion above the Princes?


Even if there isn't, I still believe it would be one rad thing to make real.
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Roisan Sweeney
 
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Post » Mon May 02, 2011 2:04 am

No. To everything.
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Juanita Hernandez
 
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Post » Sun May 01, 2011 10:47 pm

A little blunt, care to explain why you think so?
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Post » Sun May 01, 2011 9:50 pm

Because "Prince" is just what they are called. And literally no evidence has ever suggested that there is anything higher, besides maybe Padomay-Sithis.

It's cool you're thinking...but it's just in the wrong way.
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Post » Sun May 01, 2011 6:29 pm

The Daedra Principalities are an anarcho-syndicalist commune. They take it in turns to act as a sort of executive officer for the week, but all the decisions of that officer have to be ratified at a special bi-weekly meeting by a simple majority in the case of purely internal affairs, but by a two-thirds majority in the case of more major affairs....

By the way, KnightMariel is right. It would svck.
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Post » Sun May 01, 2011 4:25 pm

Wouldn't it make sense that there might be a Daedric King or some form of higher power in Oblivion above the Princes?

In regards to the Daedra Princes the term 'Prince' is not in reference to the person below a King, but rather as being the sovereign or the highest person/being in their given group... It's for this same reason that we don't refer to the 'female' daedroths as Daedric Princesses...
The Daedra Principalities are an anarcho-syndicalist commune. They take it in turns to act as a sort of executive officer for the week, but all the decisions of that officer have to be ratified at a special bi-weekly meeting by a simple majority in the case of purely internal affairs, but by a two-thirds majority in the case of more major affairs....

You're fooling yourself, they're living a dictatorship, a self-perpetuating autocracy...
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Post » Mon May 02, 2011 3:36 am

"I am king of the Daedra!"

"King of the who?"

"The Daedra."

"Who are the Daedra?"

"Well, we all are. And I am your king."

"I didn't know we had a king."
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Post » Sun May 01, 2011 10:20 pm

"You're fooling yourself. We're living in a dictatorship: a self-perpetuating autocracy in which the character classes--"

"Oh, there you go bringing class into it again."
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Post » Sun May 01, 2011 12:37 pm

First thing you have to remember (and I'm surprised no one brought it up before) is that Aedra (the gods) and the Daedra (the Daedra, lol) are in acuality one and the same. THe only difference is that one set consented to help shape all of creation (the Aedra) and the other decided to stay out of it (the Daedra). The different names for the two groups are derived from the Dumer language (if Morrowind lore is to be beleived) and any other differences between them are just perceptions of the mortal races.

But as for the Daedric elements there is no rulling lord, so far as anyone knows. It could be that at one time they did, but if they did no one now knows of it.
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Post » Sun May 01, 2011 6:45 pm

First thing you have to remember (and I'm surprised no one brought it up before) is that Aedra (the gods) and the Daedra (the Daedra, lol) are in acuality one and the same. THe only difference is that one set consented to help shape all of creation (the Aedra) and the other decided to stay out of it (the Daedra). The different names for the two groups are derived from the Dumer language (if Morrowind lore is to be beleived) and any other differences between them are just perceptions of the mortal races.

I'd say the differences go further than that, though that is one of them (and a rather large one at that when Mundus is your point of reference): Daedra are also generally aligned to Padomay as opposed to Anu and besides that, the Aedra as the people of Mundus know them are not the same [literal] folks that created the world, but rather memories given form by nifty magickal mythopoeic memories...
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Post » Sun May 01, 2011 7:23 pm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince#Prince_as_a_generic_word_for_ruler (Basically what Luagar said, but in more detail.)

This is one of those topics that just keeps coming back for more.
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Post » Sun May 01, 2011 6:10 pm

Alright so we know there are around 16 known Princes, but that's just it, their Princes, usually where there is a Prince there is someone to keep them in check or have absolute rule, so what I'm saying is this.

Wouldn't it make sense that there might be a Daedric King or some form of higher power in Oblivion above the Princes?
Even if there isn't, I still believe it would be one rad thing to make real.

Yes I think this makes complete since.After all you would have need for an overseer.Also,who distributed there realms.I like it.
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Post » Mon May 02, 2011 3:04 am

Yes I think this makes complete since.After all you would have need for an overseer.Also,who distributed there realms.I like it.

1. It's "their" not "there"
2. The general belief is that realms were not distributed and that the realms are part of Princes themselves.
3. it's "sense" not "since"
4. Brush your teeth after all meals
5. Don't cross the road if you can't get out of the kitchen.

If there was an overseer we would have heard of him by now.
quod erat demonstrandum:
there is no overseer.
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Post » Sun May 01, 2011 4:24 pm

"2. The general believe is that realms were not distributed and that the realms are part of Princes themselves."


It's Belief.
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Post » Sun May 01, 2011 2:49 pm

no comment
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Post » Mon May 02, 2011 1:58 am

It's Belief.


Perhaps so, but it's a belief that has a foundation.

It's been stated before that the Daedric Princes created their own realms; they weren't "distributed". In addition, Duskweaver's link explains why that a "prince" is not necessarily an heir to a reigning monarch. A prince can be a ruler in his own right. Since the OP's argument is partly a semantic one, his argument is defeated by this.

The OP's other argument was that this hypothetical king would keep the Princes "in check". Since there's a lot of infighting and bad blood between the Principalities, that rules out that there's a supreme being "keeping the peace" between them or regulating their actions.

Besides, there is no precedent or evidence for the existence of a "Daedric king".
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Post » Mon May 02, 2011 4:29 am

Perhaps so, but it's a belief that has a foundation.


I think you misread the little semantic squabble going on there astionM.
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Post » Mon May 02, 2011 2:02 am

1. It's "their" not "there"
2. The general belief is that realms were not distributed and that the realms are part of Princes themselves.
3. it's "sense" not "since"
4. Brush your teeth after all meals
5. Don't cross the road if you can't get out of the kitchen.

If there was an overseer we would have heard of him by now.
quod erat demonstrandum:
there is no overseer.

I do know all this except the OP was asking wouldn't it make sense.So you mabey should have read it.It is hypothetical.
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Post » Sun May 01, 2011 1:54 pm

I do know all this except the OP was asking wouldn't it make sense.So you mabey should have read it.It is hypothetical.


It's a hypothetical that's technically wrong though. The lore proves that there is no "Prince overseer." That technically wouldn't make sense, considering he/she hasn't even been hinted at in all the games that have been made.

The only thing you could ever equate to a "head" of the Daedric Lords is Padhome, who technically created them, thought that might change with different creation myths. Even then, Padhome is outside of Time, or if you think like me, he "divided" himself, so to speak, and "became" the Daedric Lords.
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Post » Sun May 01, 2011 12:25 pm

i have the hypothesis that the earth is indeed flat, supported by the fact that it would make sense. it sure don't look spherical from where I'm standing, so it would make sense that it is flat.

:spotted owl:

*re-lurk*
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Post » Sun May 01, 2011 4:54 pm

i have the hypothesis that the earth is indeed flat, supported by the fact that it would make sense. it sure don't look spherical from where I'm standing, so it would make sense that it is flat.

:spotted owl:

*re-lurk*


Nice sarcasm there (or is that Satire?).
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Post » Sun May 01, 2011 2:18 pm

Alright so we know there are around 16 known Princes, but that's just it, their Princes, usually where there is a Prince there is someone to keep them in check or have absolute rule, so what I'm saying is this.

Wouldn't it make sense that there might be a Daedric King or some form of higher power in Oblivion above the Princes?
Even if there isn't, I still believe it would be one rad thing to make real.

I am going to say again,read the op.He said nothing of fact or anything like it.Just would it not make sense;and if it doesn't would it not be rad.You guys really need context when posting.You just can't go around putting words in people's mouths.And trying to make others posts seem silly.To me I think it would make sense.
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Post » Sun May 01, 2011 4:38 pm

So we should assume that nothing either of you say is based on fact? Okay. :poke:

Let the OP speak for himself.
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Post » Mon May 02, 2011 3:31 am

So we should assume that nothing either of you say is based on fact? Okay. :poke:

Let the OP speak for himself.

:lmao: :cookie:
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Post » Mon May 02, 2011 1:36 am

Yes I think this makes complete since.After all you would have need for an overseer.Also,who distributed there realms.I like it.

Jyggalag as he is wandering the void: Man this is so frustrating. Everytime I try to build my new realm some ominous voice rings out saying 'Maximum principality amount reached, spawn more overlords'
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