So I tried search but the results are a bit scattered and unrefined. So I figure i'll just start my own topic and ask.

I need the best face and body mod out there, one that doesnt have a "everyones a 10/10" look, but has some raggered features as well as some pretty damsels. I guess i'd like one thats similar in design to the Better Heads and Better Body mods that were made for Tes 3: Morrowind.

thanks in advanced


edit: also, is the Natural Environments mod compatible with Qarls Texture pack?

There are many, but here is what I use:

Female body replacer - HGEC
Male body replacer - Robert Male v 5.0
Enhanced body replacer textures: HGEC HI-Res 4096x4096 Textures Humans & Elves
Better face: HGEC Hi-Res Face Textures Human & Elves and Smooth EGT for Vanilla Races
Body Seam Reducer

As a whole my BAIN section for body replacers, facial enhancemants and stock replacement for the body replacers looks like this:


++ 330 - Race Balancing Project Resources 10.5.rar (77C0DDFC) (Installed)
++ 331 - RBP - Ohmes-raht glowing eyes 10.5.rar (DBF2BBC4) (Installed)
++ 332 - Race Balancing Project 10.52.rar (85D5F867) (Installed)
++ 334 - Race Balancing Project 10,5 - Ohmes-raht Voice Set.7z (46011BCD) (Installed)
++ 336 - EVE_HGEC_BodyStock and Clothing Wrye Bash BAIN -24078.rar (8B7806A0) (Installed)
++ 337 - EVEUpperShirt04CcupFix-24078.rar (DE7AECA8) (Installed)
++ 338 - HGEC HI-Res 4096x4096 Textures Humans & Elves.rar (6EA35408) (Installed)
++ 339 - Smooth EGT for Vanilla Races.rar (B2EA6154) (Installed)
++ 340 - HGEC Hi-Res Face Textures Human & Elves.rar (3AF6F5E1) (Installed)
++ 341 - Body Seam Reducer-19738.rar (7D2257FC) (Installed)
++ 342 - EVE for Francesco BAIN Installer update-24078.7z (736691AE) (Installed)
++ 343 - EVE for Oscuro Oblivion Overhaul 1_3 BAIN-24078.7z (1FEE0F34) (Installed)
++ 344 - EVE for MMM.7z (C5BFDAE2) (Installed)
++ 345 - EVE HGEC for FCOM 1.4.rar (761D67A5) (Installed)
++ 346 - EVE_for_Artifacts 0.55.rar (B78D803B) (Installed)
++ 347 - EVE HGEC for Armamentarium.7z (2EC6ADAA) (Installed)
++ 348 - MaleBodyReplacer-Muscular-v5-Beta.rar (EA1A2BCB) (Installed)
++ 349 - Robert Muscular Stock Clothing & Armor 1.2.rar (DFBC1F2A) (Installed)
++ 350 - Robert Muscular 5.0 SI Clothing & Armor.rar (89EEB678) (Installed)
++ 351 - Robert Muscular Frans Armor.rar (637C0A1E) (Installed)
++ 352 - Robert Muscular Frans Armor PYFFIed Meshes.rar (40174083) (Installed)
++ 353 - Robert Muscular OOO Armor-14984.7z (254AA989) (Installed)
++ 354 - Robert's Muscular OOO Armor PYFFIed Meshes.rar (7DE36284) (Installed)
++ 355 - Robert Muscular MMM Armor-15096.7z (7770DF7B) (Installed)
++ 356 - Robert Muscular MMM Armor PYFFIed Mesh.rar (4B79BFE1) (Installed)
++ 357 - Armamentarium_Complete_ROBERT_Musclar.rar (32FDAFCE) (Installed)
++ 358 - Armamentarium_Complete_ROBERT_Musclar PYFFIed Meshes.rar (1EAF8C5F) (Installed)
++ 359 - Artifacts for Roberts Male -25309.rar (889B1BF0) (Installed)
++ 360 - Artifacts Roberts Male PYFFIed Meshes.rar (82A50D51) (Installed)

This gives me bodies and armors after my tastes.

As far as I know, yes. QTP is only a texture replacer and NE doesn't touch any texture. You might want to use All Natural instead of Natural Environments though (at least the weather part) since NE is pretty outdated.

I have yet to find a decent comparison of body mods though, UESP's page about it is shallow at best :/

Edit: In terms of amount of clothes/armor available, I'd say HGEC or any Exnem-derived mod. Personally I use Exnem's Eyecandy with several HGEC-compatible mods and they're working great.

Well the best is very subjective. You should compare the choices and see what you like for yourself. Here's what I use:

- HGEC for women
- Robert's Male Body Replacer (as a base), plus Breezes Defined Male Body Replacer, plus Breezes Vascular Normal Maps for males
- Improved Facial Textures, plus Django's Unique Features, plus Improved Argonian Facial Textures for faces

As far as men, you are pretty limited. You could download "All Male Body Replacer". It has all the choices combined into one pack.
For women there are several choices. TFF, Robert's, HGEC, original EyeCandy, and others I think.

alrighty thanks for the help.


At the moment im using:

- OOO
- Better Cities
- Quarls Texture Pack III
- Unique landscapes
- Natural Environments (gonna sus out that All natural mod)
- HG Eye Candy
- All Male Body Replacer
- Natural Faces

as well as some basic ones, like:

- Fine Weapons, and Rusty Items for OOO
- Daggerfall Books
- Dungeon/Exterior NPC's use torches

i'll list some more when I decide which ones to use, is there any that you guys would recommend?

also, is there any decent weapon/armor/clothing textures that are lore friendly that you could also recommend?

As far as compatibility goes, Robert Male v4 Muscle type is still the better supported. AFAIK that's what is used in Arma, MMM, OOO, etc. compatibility mods.

hmm well seems im the first, but my personal favourites are, as stated before Roberts male body v4 for males and Roberts Female body for females
many mod authors offer support for both these body types

If you mean texture replacers for vanilla there strangely enough not that many around. There's http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=10928, which I haven't tried out.

Anyway, if you mean variants there's http://planetelderscrolls.gamespy.com/View.php?view=oblivionmods.detail&id=3575 or http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1063553-relz-armamentarium-complete-135-artifacts-ii-support/ (adds everything to leveled lists and gives weapons OMOBS stats to be balanced with OOO) if using OOO. Also, http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1039869-beta-relzcore-randomclothing4npcs-beta-relz/ and http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=28643 for, not that surprisingly, clothes.

http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=21451 mod rocks!

It would take an enormous popularity and support effort from the community to make it compatible with the most popular mods.

It would be too awesome I guess..

Where could I find this one ?

I guess all those are from the same source (24078)

One standard question I have is if those mods (Arma OOO Frans etc) work with other versions of Robert's body or are there seams etc ?

It's a Misc download at the Lattamer Race download, http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=21608.

Thank you very much

All the EVE stuff can be found in the EVE thread

And all the Robert's is based off MaleBodyReplacer4 but 5 works has well (That is what people are using 5 now)..

Thank you ! - I meant with average slender etc body types - they seem to apply to muscular
Not really the modeler here lol