Best, least intrusive experience for PC gamers : Fallout: New Vegas

» Tue Mar 23, 2010 7:39 am

Hello, I am an honnest customer who buy always his games and I was really interested by FNV.

But, finally, I will not buy it, and not play to it.

I really don't like Steam. I Already try it, but I have a bad Wifi connexion and download a full game is not really possible. And, when it is not my connexion, it is the steam server which is saturated.

Why don't use a classic DRM for retail ? Finnaly, you will be also pirated... Search other games with steam protection on Google with the keyword "torrent" and you will find easily. Supreme Commander 2 with Steam was piraded only one day after release. This will be the same for FNV. You will always lose solds from pirates, but now also from honnest customers who need/want real retail boxes games.
DRMs like this is more annoying for honnest buyers than pirates...

I really like Bethesda and Obsidian games, but with Steam, it is not possible for me. Today, you lose at least one faithful customer.

I don't think you have to worry about downloading the game through Steam. They have a hard copy version. You just need to use Steam to activate it.

» Tue Mar 23, 2010 5:47 am

I don't think you have to worry about downloading the game through Steam. They have a hard copy version. You just need to use Steam to activate it.

Euh, No ! The DVD is not a hard copy version ! In fact the DVD have only a Steam Installer... and you need to activate and dowload the game.
I try to buy "retail boxes" for 3 other games with this Steam protection and I was realy disapointed to find only 30Mb of Steam installer and no game on the DVD. This may be the same for FNV.

» Mon Mar 22, 2010 8:45 pm

Euh, No ! The DVD is not a hard copy version ! In fact the DVD have only a Steam Installer... and you need to activate and dowload the game.
I try to buy "retail boxes" for 3 other games with this Steam protection and I was realy disapointed to find only 30Mb of Steam installer and no game on the DVD.

~~No, I believe the game comes with a disk. The disk has the game on it.~~ Unless you can point me to something that proves otherwise. Nobody has said anything either way, so we can't really assume yet, so I guess it's wrong for me to assume. I would hope it comes with an actual disk.

But I'm sorry if it does come with just an installer. Maybe Bethesda will release a non-steam version in the future if the backlash is large enough.

» Tue Mar 23, 2010 7:03 am

Addendum: After giving it some thought, I've decided to buy the game after release and buy only the extras I really want instead of buying the whole package after waiting for a GotY/Ultimate/whatever edition.

Damn you Obsidian! I'm still upset but I just can't wait a few more months while everyone is enjoying NV. I hope it'll be worth it.

» Tue Mar 23, 2010 4:58 am

Euh, No ! The DVD is not a hard copy version ! In fact the DVD have only a Steam Installer... and you need to activate and dowload the game.
I try to buy "retail boxes" for 3 other games with this Steam protection and I was realy disapointed to find only 30Mb of Steam installer and no game on the DVD. This may be the same for FNV.

As far as I know retail versions of Steamworks games include the data on the DVD. I know Dawn of War II did at least.

» Tue Mar 23, 2010 12:22 am

That's pretty much my opinion too.

I think you're just being paranoid here, I don't see someone hijacking Steam and wrecking a million steam users just like that.

If you think that they need to get the steam servers, you are wrong, it would work like a little piece of code that gets run on your computer, if it finds you have your steam client open, it will then run its code thru it, or spoofing the steam client, and by that getting full rights to do whatever it bloody well wants to do, like corrupting windows, deleting files, install anything it wants, etc, without your knowledge. So no tinfoil hat on my head, just knowledge.

» Mon Mar 22, 2010 6:50 pm

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