Best Race for Dragonborn? : V - Skyrim

» Sun Jun 10, 2012 12:52 pm

no offense but how daft do you have to be to not realize that being a Nord as dragonborn makes the most sense..? what's the point of asking? obviously it's a Nord..Tiber Septim was a Nord..it's SKYRIM..where is the guesswork coming in here haha..? it's bloody obvious

» Sun Jun 10, 2012 10:26 am

no offense but how daft do you have to be to not realize that being a Nord as dragonborn makes the most sense..? what's the point of asking? obviously it's a Nord..Tiber Septim was a Nord..it's SKYRIM..where is the guesswork coming in here haha..? it's bloody obvious

Seeing as Reman Cyrodiil and Saint Alessia were Imperial Dragonborn I don't see how it is that obvious. And there is speculation that Talos was in fact a Breton based on this: http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:The_Arcturian_Heresy

» Sun Jun 10, 2012 3:51 pm

Tiber Septim was likely a Breton, so that doesn't work. He ruled in Cyrodiil, not in Skyrim.

And the Dragonborn is annointed by Akatosh, who isn't even present in the Nordic pantheon.

So it's not quite that simple.

» Sun Jun 10, 2012 6:33 pm

Seeing as Reman Cyrodiil and Saint Alessia were Imperial Dragonborn I don't see how it is that obvious. And there is speculation that Talos was in fact a Breton based on this: http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:The_Arcturian_Heresy

um, there is no doubt nor question as to the race of Tiber Septim. He was a nord, that's stated many times in the lore and in the games/books/imperial library. He was a Nord, there is no grey area. And yes, it's VERY obvious, the game is set in Skyrim, the most obvious choice for Dragonborn is a NORD. any race can be dragonborn, but pertaining to this game, yes, a nord is the most bloody obvious choice i mean seriously, you have to just know nothing of the game to not realize and understand that..

» Sun Jun 10, 2012 3:11 pm

um, there is no doubt nor question as to the race of Tiber Septim. He was a nord, that's stated many times in the lore and in the games/books/imperial library. He was a Nord, there is no grey area. And yes, it's VERY obvious, the game is set in Skyrim, the most obvious choice for Dragonborn is a NORD. any race can be dragonborn, but pertaining to this game, yes, a nord is the most bloody obvious choice i mean seriously, you have to just know nothing of the game to not realize and understand that..

Actually I think you might find this(http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1350340-race-of-tiber-septim/) lore discussion interesting.

» Sun Jun 10, 2012 6:32 pm

Argonian.

Because... uhh... you know, lizards are kinda like dragons, and stuff...

» Sun Jun 10, 2012 10:13 pm

Actually I think you might find this(http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1350340-race-of-tiber-septim/) lore discussion interesting.

a thread that was made two days ago haha..? and what does a user made thread have to do with anything? the lore speaks the truth, not a 12 year old who made an account on this forum rofl. and from that poll, the leading winner is..nord. :rofl:

thanks for reaffirming my point i guess

» Sun Jun 10, 2012 7:16 pm

I asked the Greybeards about race and the dragonborn. They pretty much said race does not matter. That being said, Nord makes the most sense. I gave my Argonian some antler looking spikes when I created her that make her kind of look dragonish.

» Sun Jun 10, 2012 5:11 pm

a thread that was made two days ago haha..? and what does a user made thread have to do with anything? the lore speaks the truth, not a 12 year old who made an account on this forum rofl. and from that poll, the leading winner is..nord. :rofl:

thanks for reaffirming my point i guess

The whole point was that there is no evidence he was a nord, or breton only that he was human. Also have you taken some time to read some of the arguments rather than just looking at the poll?

» Mon Jun 11, 2012 12:30 am

As many other have said - Nord. Weirdest races - Argonian and Khajiit

» Sun Jun 10, 2012 12:19 pm

Nevermind.

» Mon Jun 11, 2012 12:43 am

Not this reply again. >_>

Yes, damned bloody right this reply again. Unapologetic, too. Are you going to tell me that an Argonian Nerevarine, or an Altmer Dovahkiin is playing the game wrong? There is no 'best' race, welcome to the Elder Scrolls, welcome to the monkey truth. If you think a Nord makes most sense, work away and play a Nord, but always remember TES lore is so much deeper than that which they can portray in a game.

» Sun Jun 10, 2012 9:51 am

The whole point was that there is no evidence he was a nord, or breton only that he was human. Also have you taken some time to read some of the arguments rather than just looking at the poll?

you apparently don't do a lot of lore research, there are MANY instances where he's stated to be a nord dude. look it up. it's even stated in books in game, and in skyrim.

» Sun Jun 10, 2012 10:51 pm

you apparently don't do a lot of lore research, there are MANY instances where he's stated to be a nord dude. look it up. it's even stated in books in game, and in skyrim.

If you haven't noticed that 70% of what is said about Tiber Septim is a lie, and the remaining 30% is a paradox, you haven't done ANY research.

Talos deliberately adopted a Nordic persona, claiming to have been born in Atmora, which is impossible. He presented false views of history that erased indigenous human cultures from the history books, presenting Skyrim as the Fatherland of Cyrodiil and all mankind.

» Sun Jun 10, 2012 3:23 pm

you apparently don't do a lot of lore research, there are MANY instances where he's stated to be a nord dude. look it up. it's even stated in books in game, and in skyrim.

And you cannot ignore a piece of lore Bethesda have released that states he is not who we think he is, just like we cannot ignore the new information on the nature of Dragonborn added in Skyrim.
There is orthodox beliefs and the heresy which states somehting different, but neither can be ignored at our own liking.

» Mon Jun 11, 2012 12:26 am

In any case, even if the Arcturian Heresy means he's Breton, he probably wasn't a typical one. He was an up and coming solider for the Reman dyanasy, and if the story of Sancre Tor is true, then he's also the same Tiber Septim who went to war against Bretons and Nords alike at high hrdoldan.

» Sun Jun 10, 2012 11:03 pm

If you want to believe he is a Nord believe that. If you don't want to believe he is a Nord don't. Lore will back you up either way.

» Sun Jun 10, 2012 11:02 pm

um, there is no doubt nor question as to the race of Tiber Septim. He was a nord, that's stated many times in the lore and in the games/books/imperial library. He was a Nord, there is no grey area. And yes, it's VERY obvious, the game is set in Skyrim, the most obvious choice for Dragonborn is a NORD. any race can be dragonborn, but pertaining to this game, yes, a nord is the most bloody obvious choice i mean seriously, you have to just know nothing of the game to not realize and understand that..

There is a pretty big debate about it. Some things in lore don’t add up to the books published during/after the time of Tiber Septims rule, yet they add up to the acturian heresy version. The only evidence we have of how Tiber Septim looked also points to him being a Breton. Nords stay bulky till they die and he was a thin mage looking guy.

» Sun Jun 10, 2012 11:53 pm

As I perceive dragon blood as recessive alleles, any race could be Dragonborn if there just has been a Nord in the family line.

» Sun Jun 10, 2012 10:43 am

There is a pretty big debate about it. Some things in lore don’t add up to the books published during/after the time of Tiber Septims rule, yet they add up to the acturian heresy version. The only evidence we have of how Tiber Septim looked also points to him being a Breton. Nords stay bulky till they die and he was a thin mage looking guy.

Well, he apparently got his throat cut trying to protect the emperor in an assasination attempt. He was the emperor's right hand and took over after that. But he wasn't never at full health. He couldn't even shout. It's said he ruled with a "whisper". I doubt he would've stayed physically in tact whether Nord or Breton.

» Sun Jun 10, 2012 11:05 pm

There is a pretty big debate about it. Some things in lore don’t add up to the books published during/after the time of Tiber Septims rule, yet they add up to the acturian heresy version. The only evidence we have of how Tiber Septim looked also points to him being a Breton. Nords stay bulky till they die and he was a thin mage looking guy.

since when can there not be a nordic mage who is not a body builder?

» Sun Jun 10, 2012 7:16 pm

As I perceive dragon blood as recessive alleles, any race could be Dragonborn if there just has been a Nord in the family line.

Nord in the family is not even necessary. While it is a safe bet that it is hereditary there is also evidence that the blessing can be acquired through other means. Maybe when Akatosh is in the right mood he starts to pass the blessing around like candy.

» Sun Jun 10, 2012 4:56 pm

As far as in game books go, you have to take them at face value, just as books. Books have authors, who can be biased, ignorant or propagandist. Apparently Tiber Septim was a Nord, according to those whom it suits to believe that, yet there is some evidence to the contrary. It's the same as Altmer killing their children, having names which are actually numbers, and having a culture entirely based on flaunting position in society. It 'must' be true, the Alessians said so.

» Mon Jun 11, 2012 2:15 am

I didn't see any Argonians in the the live action trailer.

» Sun Jun 10, 2012 12:42 pm

Well, he apparently got his throat cut trying to protect the emperor in an assasination attempt. He was the emperor's right hand and took over after that. But he wasn't never at full health. He couldn't even shout. It's said he ruled with a "whisper". I doubt he would've stayed physically in tact whether Nord or Breton.

since when can there not be a nordic mage who is not a body builder?

Looks like a Breton, thinks like a Breton, named like a Breton but fights like a Nord. Must be a…