The thing is though you are talking about the game, not the world. All races can be Dragonborn, of course, in both game and lore. But the dialogue in the game can be very Nord-centric, and very warrior-centric, too.

The other thing I would mention also is the whole fighting dragons thing itself...that is very Nord-centric. The war between dragons and humans was essentially dragons vs. Nords. So in that respect, the game feels more 'right' when you play as a nord warrior, given the dialogue...depsite me playing as a Breton Spellsword

But certainly you are right about all races fitting, it's just that the point could have hit home more if the dialogue was expanded to match it.

I can't tell if he looks like a breton or not. He kind of looks like the preset 1 Nord, but with a goatee. That might not be accidental either.

who looks like? what are you referring to?

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/File:OB-Statues-Tiber_Septim.jpg

Obviously, I know that people believe Talos was a Nord. I do realize the setting of the game is home of Nords. This thread was mainly for discussion and people's opinions. I don't need help picking a race. So, thanks for coming off as an arrogant [censored]. <3

There is also an issue of him always trying to find a magical solution to things not the typical brute force solution to everything Nords use. Considering how much magic was used for him to force his way to godhood…

It is not definitive but it adds up to the point where you just can’t say with certainty.

I'm referring more to the Skyrim statues. He's got that same pudgy nose as a default Nord.

http://bilder.bild.de/fotos-skaliert/talos-jpg_23688470_mbqf-1320915874-20931074/3,h=493.bild.jpg


Perhaps the older one is him in old age, as the emperor. The other is the young warrior Talos.

"hey guise wut r@ce is b#st to b dah nerevarine" i'm sorry but the question is just obvious. you can pick what you want, but the location of the game generally denotes what the "cookie cutter" race you should play as. but it really doesn't matter, you can be whatever you want. the nerevarine was generally a dunmer, the CoC was generally an imperial, and the dragonborn is a Nord, that's just logic for you. i'm not being an arrogant [censored], i'm explaining common sense to you. sorry if that offends you. <3 you ask a silly question you're going to get a silly response

That is Talos. That is Tiber Septim plus two people he consumed lol.

Ok, here's another question. What is the least imaginative and least interesting race for dragonborn? I'll give you a clue, the answer begins with an 'N'.

I kind of like it that Bethesda has inconsistencies in their lore. There are these types of inconsistencies in real history, and you never really know whether an ancient writer was telling the truth or whether he might have been mistaken. It is awesome that Bethesda made their lore the same.

We do find the truth eventually…sometimes. We found out that Vivec did participate in killing Nerevar by decoding his books. Whoever took the time to code the books and who ever took the time to decode them has to be nuts, but hey now we know.

bethesda is inconsistent with their lore, that's for sure. i think that's where most of these "but wait this says" and "but here this says" types of situations. bethesda makes it clear that talos was a nord, and then they completely change their story. that's not tiber septim, that's just bad writing..

Had you tried to do so in a less condescending way you might be percieved as less arrogant.

I don't think it's bad writing. I think it's intentional. I hope I don't get into too much trouble for bringing up religion, but some religions have multiple accounts of events and figures.. and some have their versions of the "arcturian heresy" too. For example, the gospel of judas, never included in the bible, paints the betrayer judas in somewhat more sympathetic light - and jesus is close to him. You could compare it to the multiple versions of the Talos story that places Talos in different positions. In some, he's a friend of Wulfarth. In others, he's a rival. In some, he protects the emperor and gets hurt in the process. In others, he's the actual asssasin and stole the imperial throne.

It is quite possible that just like inconsistencies in real history being the result of a mistake made by an ancient writer, some of the inconsistencies in Bethesda's history are the result of a mistake by a writer who either did not know or forgot some important piece of prior lore. But I imagine that many of the inconsistencies are placed there on purpose to spark just this kind of debate.

tdroid, your perception of my intelligence is not really a concern of mine, sorry..


it could be on purpose, but that just leaves us thinking that they're bad at writing. whats the point of that?

It leaves with me thinking that they want to purposely throw players for a loop... to NOT rely on any facts when making choices in this game.

If you think about it, our Dragonborn character is given opportunity to do a lot of similar things as Talos. Be dragonborn, for one.. but also engage in political struggles. What if the "facts" of Talos' life were so charted out - a lot more people would just look to that and mimic it.

For example..


If Talos was actually a young rebel Hjalti Early Beard, then everyone would join the Stormcloaks to mimic him. If he was an imperial soldier who crushed rebel movements, then everyone would join the Empire. So instead, they make his life open ended - just as our games should be open ended.

Naturally, but I don't care how intelligent you might think you are: That is no excuse for talking down to people who disagree with you. If you didn't notice that was the point I was trying to make.

last time i checked, pointing out a flaw and stating logic/common sense facts is not talking down to someone. i apologized if what i said offended, and stated that my intentions were not to offend. so what do you want? you want me to right a letter, kiss it, and send some flowers? smh

Let's see:
Seems unnessarily condescending.
Calling others kids are quite arrogant IMO.
And the last post speaks for itself. Pointing out flaws or misunderstandings doesn't need to contain ridicule.
As for me being offended: Not at all. Simply annoyed by arrogance.

How about we get back to the side tracked conversion guys?

Nord, Imperial, or Argonian.

Nord because the Dragonborn, Aedra, and Founder of the Empire, Talos, was a Nord. Not to mention that Nords seem to be the main people who can use Dragon Shouts unless given to somebody by the means of a Deity in the case of the Final Dragonborn, you.

Imperial: All Emperors are of some Dragon Blood up to the point of Martin Septim. An illegitimate son can easily be a Dragonborn or even the non-Emperor brothers and sisters of the Emperors of years past who lead lives of their own can pass down the Dragonborn gene.

Argonian: Mostly for fun. Argonians are lizards and dragons can be considered as reptilian. I HAVE SPOKEN!!!

But remember that the Dragonborn is not always a genetic thing. It can be the ability given by one of the Nine Divines or through some other method. Or it CAN be a genetic thing. In a roleplaying perspective, go nuts! you can easily be the illegitimate great-great-great-great-great Grandson/Granddaughter of a Prince who didn't become Emperor.

Indeed.
As I said, the races I believe would be expected to be dragonborn are Imperial, Nord and Breton. Seems almost related to heving Nedic and Atmoran ancestry, though I have heard others mention they believe Cyrus was a Dragonborn so it might be more of a human thing. That said, nothing is keeping Akatosh from giving his blessing to whomever he likes.

Whichever race you choose
Akatosh decides, not the Greybeards or genes, and Akatosh moves in mysterious ways