Hello to all you good people's i do beolive that this topic has no spoilers to it.

my question to you all is wether or not bethesda have put themselv's inot a corner with the whole skyrim civil war. lore-wise they've got to go one wa or the other.

example one: they make it lore that the storm cloaks win and free skyrim from the empire making yet another landmass on nirn empire free. obviously good for those who thought for the storm cloaks.(me)

example two: the empire wins All talos worshippers are carted off to be interogatted/killed and skyrim is brought back under the empire's banner.

the way I see it bethesda cant decide one way or the other without making people on the other side of there decision unhappy like there choice meant nothing and we are stuck with there choice either the empire reigns or its crumbled even more then it already has despite what side we took.

I know it's a bit early to be thinking of TES 6 but this seems to be the first major lore related piece i can think on that will effect players on either side of beths decision.

They don't have to pick any ending, just look at Daggerfall.

I doubt they'll go the dragon break route again.

I'm betting they'll use some sort of external-to-Skyrim event to resolve it; they'll either say the Empire sends a bunch of additional troops that put down the rebellion (regardless of how the war went in your game), or some emergency will force the Empire to withdraw whatever troops they still have in Skyrim, and the Stormcloaks (or the remnants of them) will manage to take over.

Warp in the North.

No Dragonbreak. That kind of trick only works once.

Either they'll have to choose a canon ending, or do something non-mythic.

They've had shottier excuses for doing things before, I don't see why they can't break the dragon for a third time in TES history.

A dragon break would make as much sense here as anywhere, I think. Not sure. Haven't played the MQ and I don't know what the deal is with Alduin/Akatosh yet, but it seems like this could be the best and most direct opportunity yet for a dragon break.

More fuel for a Dragon-Break: a time-wound is involved.

Well. Regarding the DB ending. Certain events...happened, that should give reason for the legion to pull out.

I dont think there is enough variables to break the dragon again

It could be that Bethesda has the Empire ban all information or speaking of the civil war. It wouldn't say the war ended in either path.

It would imply the empire won though ?

That's not what I mean. I mean they already used it for Daggerfall. Doing it again will just be boring.

@Ryan - not necessarily though. It could have been a terrible and embarrassing defeat for the empire OR it could have been a victory but cost a lot of people so they don't want to talk about it; it could be very open-ended if it's forbidden to talk about it.

Maybe we'll be able to import our saves into TES 6?

If Beth uses Steam for the next game, its a possibility we can continue on from the last game, while totally new players can come from a default save where ulfric was killed or tullius assinated, or so on.

Really curious/worried about whether the Dark Brotherhood's final mission will be canonized as well...

Havnt done it yet and dont plan to, but does it have to do with

Yessir. Totally took me by surprise, but I may be overreacting a bit to the implications.

I never thought we'd actually get to do it, and we wont know the implications, if any, until the next game/novel/ dev post relating to it.

Isn't it ?

Beth doesn't HAVE to Break the Dragon, but for the newbies here, they should look that up to see that Beth doesn't actually get into any corners here.

My likely bet is that there'll be some sort of reunification of Skyrim one way or another (after all, that's what happens at the end of either faction questline) and the future will use vague terms that could imply that either side could've "won" and assimilated the other. Perhaps some form of warfare elsewhere would help, such as an attempted break-away of High Rock, which would work either way: it could either break from the Empire and be brought back in, or conquered by the Stormcloaks.

$100US says "no." The idea of importing saves stretches as far back as Daggerfall, and since then, even when technically modifications could've been done to alter characters to fit the different system of each game, it's become more a tradition. Remember that these aren't sequels in the "movie" sense: you will NEVER play the same character. Each hero gets sent off on their own direction, and never gets mentioned in history again. The Imperial Champion, The Emperor's Agent, the Neravarine, The Champion of Cyrodiil, and now the Dovahkiin.

Each game doesn't really require prior knowledge of the previous games to play. (else just about all of you wouldn't be here)

I didn't mean we'd get the same character (we can do that ourselves if we want, anyway).

I just meant that our choices could be referred to in future games, like how Dragon Age 2 handles the events of Origins.

Mass Effect has been able to do it perfectly.

But, there is no 'lore' to ME either.

If you have the next game where you can upload previous choices to alter your next game, none of the games will ever be the same from a person to person basis, so there will no longer be any lore from that point on, because each person made different decisions than the next.