In this youtube video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjbx6-KQoRg
there was radiant AI in the OB demo, and they supposedly took it out since certain NPC's would buy everything in shops, leaving nothing for the character.
PLUS, NPC's would talk to each other by name, and this is when I got a huge mega-boner... why did they take THIS out?

Will they call eachother by name in SKyrim? Damn I really hope so. Let's hope Beth doesn't lie this time, what do you guys think? I'm willing to give them a second chance, and I have a feeling (if Skyrim is everything they say it will be) I'm going to absolutely love Skyrim when it's out.

EDIT-I didn't mean to use the word 'lie' and I should've known that would cause some steam here. Anyway, I cannot wait for the release, and I look forward to finally experiencing that RAI in action.

EDIT 2-This is sort of off topic, but there were other features added that I doubt many people know about. One, for example, I found very interesting and can confirm it as I have done it multiple times. If you pick up a book by pressing L2 on the PS3 controller and dangle it in front of a certain NPC, they will take it from you and start reading it. So there were many little interesting features kept in the game.

Time to move on bro.

It would be great for immersion. Lets hope it is true this time.

:facepalm: That can be read awfully wrong.

Also they might not lie, certainly embellish things a tad though, as every company does. :b

They didn't "lie" about anything, they had to remove/go back on their word due to production cost/time restraints. Stop acting like you were done wrong.

just after view this video mi thoughts were:

holly sh%t todd actually saids all those lies!?

but after think a little bit more, nothing about that video is a lie, he just show the NPC capabilities at the time, in Oblivion we can see NPCs practicing with bows, casting spells, we can drink potions that increase our marksman skills, etc etc that scene is just a summary of some capabilities. Is true we never see that lady burning her dog in the game but it was just a prepared sketch for E3.

This.

Bethesda didn't lie... They exaggerated. There's a difference. And last time I checked, I think every company does this.

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Why would they do such a thing?

That looked gorgeous!

O.K. so you think it would be amazing if a npc would buy all the furniture that was sitting there for you to buy and place at your new house,and then you couldn't even add a bed in your house so you can sleep.

This.

NO RADIANT AI. Instead beth should spend the time and resource on things like are more noticeable. Quests, gameplay polishing, animations, etc. Get your character to strafe properly then start working on these doodads.

An exception to that are random events.

Oblivion was five years ago man. I'm sure they can implement it in the game pretty well by now. It isn't 2006 anymore. Time to move on.

Radiant AI is in Oblivion. If you follow an NPC all day, they have a schedule and do different things. It had to be toned down because it was breaking the game. NPCs were killing eachother everywhere, stealing quest items, etc.

Instead of having a 24-hour long demo, they made a scripted demo to show us what it was like in a short amount of time.

:rofl:

dude could you seriously not have just left that in the original thread instead of making a new thread.

do we really need a new thread about this video every month.

i don't think anybody who uses this video as FUEL AGAINST TODD or whatever the [censored] has actually played Oblivion for any meaningful length of time.

If I recall correctly, they also said that none of those details were final and prone to change. In fact, the video showing the Radiant AI showed more removed features than any others (raspy Dunmer voice, shadows, more advanced AI, and the city of Sutch to name a few)

I think they'll be more straightforward with the truth this time around. They have more experience on the modern systems, so they know what features they can handle and which can't happen. Though I must say, they never really "lied", and I think this is a non-issue. I've seen worse when it comes to features rejected. Hell, even WoW's second expansion featured removed content on the box every copy shipped in.

This thread svcks.

This.

The AI was pretty damn amazing for its time. Anyone who says otherwise is the real liar.

You should try following an NPC all day. They don't just stand there. They do other things. THAT's radiant AI.

I see absolutely nothing wrong with that.

Hell, it sounds like a lot of fun.

I don't think it would fun to have an NPC steal a quest item and you don't know where and when it happened.

Why do I see a response like this in nearly every thread mentioning radiant AI? Someone on an earlier thread put it much better than I ever could: open up the construction set and delete every faction if you want to see what the original Radiant AI turned out to be like.

what i wanna know is why they took away the morrowind dunmer voice :/...it was in that video but i suppose it did sound a bit harsh and forced in that video