Pete's twitter. Someone asked him if what Todd said about 90% of their audience being on the console is true and Pete said "That's probably not far off".

Oh, who honestly gives a damn? This is trivial.

Does this belong in the skyrim forum?

Why does it matter if Todd is lying about the sales? The results are still the same even if you state it.

"Probably not far off" is not the most reliable phrase he could come with. Maybe it works for PR, not for me. I kind of agree with the OP, 90% is very unbelievable, most likely bull. Steam is selling big.

What the friendly bear said!

I love bears!

Steam help increase sales by 20% I presume.

It helps the people that have really crappy computers. Digital is the wave of the future :celebration:

LOL this. :nod:

And I find it odd that the numbers contradict Todd's words.

I actually find it plausible, because the majority of console players are not seen or heard from, ever and they don't shout as loud as PC gamers do here in the forum :dance:

Just because a huge number of PC gamers play TES games for a long time doesn't mean they somehow multiply in numbers. Many consoles players probably bought the game 2006-2007 and were done with it by 2008. PC gamers have however been with TES since before 2002 and still play those games, giving the illusion that there is a lot more players playing on PC than it actually is. Of course the number is huge, but the console market has many, many times more casual gamers that tried Oblivion out and probably didn't play it for more than 20 hours. That is why it seems the number is huge, because it is. However, when it comes to hours playing the game, I'd say the 10% PC gamers win over the 90% console gamers, because of mods obviously.

Besides, I truly believe the numbers are not 90-10, but actually 85-15 or even 82-18, there is a huge difference between those but it still does mean consoles have more players on them.

Or is the OP trying to say that it is actually 40-60, where PC gamers have the majority? I don't think so.

Yeah, take into account that Oblivion, the Collectors Edition, and GotY Edition where all top sellers on the PC as well as Fallout 3. It just doesn't sound feasible that such a hugely successful developer has such a low command of the largest market, especially given the fact that the games it does make originate in that market.

Interesting article. Thanks. :goodjob:



60/40 would be a number I wouldn't raise an eyebrow at. Sounds a lot closer to the breakdown you would see across other games. 90/10 or even 80/20 is just far too big of an outlier.

Remember to add it to your sig if you agree! Let our voice be heard! :thumbsup:

Anyways, as the OP said Bethesda should release their overall PC, and console sales numbers that are verified by a market firm. Put their money where their mouth is so to speak.

Well they aren't going to do that, and I don't really see any need to. Its just unfortunate Todd spoke the way he did if he wasn't 100% sure of the number because that "90%" will get thrown around until the end of time, even if someone from Beth did come out and refute it now.

It'll be the "640 kb will be enough" of the TES universe

90% chance says I don't care what Howard thinks of PC gaming, so I wouldn't take it so personal.

Well I do care.

Let the OP speak! I second his notion.

I don't even get what the problem is... In what why are you feeling overlooked as a PC-gamer? Or is it just that you don't believe in Todd's statement?

Imagine if you will that the Xbox 360 was the top of the line of gaming technology, the PC platform doesn't exist. Also Sony never made a PS3, they are sticking with the PS2. Every game you get to play, including Skyrim, is therefore built with the limitations of the PS2 in mind for your 360 version (aside from the occasional 360 exclusive). That's what PC gamers deal with. :tongue:



Little of both I suppose.

^
PS1 more likely, or that 360 gets yearly hardware upgrades while the PS2 stays the same. Thats more like it.

But ya.. don't see a reason for the thread in the first place the numbers are off there isn't a multiplatform game with only %10 PC players its mostly up to %25-45 and on rare occasions reaches %50 we all know it. Steam doesn't release data and even the retail outcomes would be higher then 10%.

I'm calling shenanigans on anyone who says more people play Bethesda games on the PC than consoles. That's obviously not true.

ya.. if you know where to get your parts you will actually be saving money in the long run. Because that first cost is like $500 for your rig then every 3-4 years drop $100-150 on a new GPU and you save $10 on any new game vs paying $400-700 on a new console every 4-7 years and spending $10 more on games which are built to last alot shorter meaning more games.


And most households already buy a PC anyways so you can just get a GPU and maybe some RAM which is cheap and let that be your one for all machine

Are you talking strictly graphical then? And what would you have them do then? Make a game that looks so amazing the consoles can't handle them and only monster rigs of PC's would be able to run it? Thus losing a lot more than a couple of consumers... Either that, or they would make a minor version of the game for console. Then, when having released a lot of awesome looking screenshots from the monster-PC version, console players could make a thread like this one and [censored] about it. Either way, there has to be some truth to the fact that a lot of the fan base is playing consoles and, even though it is not as clearly represented on the PC forums (d'uh), Bethesda's wallets would probably feel it.

there is so many games released on console and not on pc:P

amyways you might want to look at this
http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1186405-what-platform-will-you-get-skyrim-for/

I guess I don't see the connection between the install base of DX10 capable computers and ratio of computer to console copies of Oblivion that Bethesda sold.

A higher DX10 install base just means more people are adopting Windows Vista/7. I don't see how that means more business for PC developers either. It's just as easy to pirate games no matter what version of DX someone is using. . .