Trust beth and todd
they know what theyre doing.

Trust beth and todd
they know what theyre doing.

The difference between an easy game and a hard game has nothing to do with how many hits bad guys can take. It has to do with when you see an Oblivion Gate open, and 2 Xivilai, 2 Daedra Lords, a few Deadroths, and a huge Spider coming out, I SHOULD be going, "Help me, baby Jesus!" Instead its more like - :snoring:
THAT IS MY PROBLEM WITH SKYRIM. IF YOU THINK IT WILL BE HARDER THAN OBLIVION YOU ARE WRONG, THEY HAVE SAID PEOPLE COMPLAINED ABOUT OBLIVION'S DIFFICULTY AND THEY RESPONDED TO IT. THEREFORE, IT WILL BE EASIER, NO MATTER HOW YOU LOOK AT IT.

Wicca Dio: okay? if its so set in stone then buy it and hate it. goodbye.
I will still play and more than likely love the S**t out of it. When i saw all those things you stated i did say Help me baby jesus. to a point. if you didnt, then you mustve set the difficulty slider all the way down, and renamed it "default" to make you sound invincible.


There are actually some Bethesda games that I found challenging, but it's been quite a long time. Morrowind could also become that easy once you reached a high enough level, but not within the first 20 hours of play. Some of the lesser known games like Call of Cthulu actually are pretty challenging, I really don't know where Bethesda lost their way, but I would have to assume it was during the making of Oblivion.

Wicca Dio: actually Oblivion for Bethesda was a stepping stone to Skyrim (Like vsions originally worked on a Bratz project before working for Bethesda on Skyrim as Concept artist) just because it wasnt perfected doesnt mean that next time around a bigger team cant rip apart oblivion to the core and make it that much better. and with like 5 years in production, you really sound rediculous making all these erronious statements about things you dont even know.

@ Kiralyn2000, I was thinking about what you said about my experience being untypical of the player base, but they only place I've ever heard ANYONE say Oblivion was challenging is on the forums. Shortly after I made this thread, I asked ALL of my real-life friends as well as those on my XBL friends list who had OB in their achievements (I sent out a M2AF) asking if they thought Oblivion's difficulty was too easy, too hard, or just right. EVERY RESPONSE was that it was TOO EASY. Whether they were stealthily one-shotting everything with their bows, charging in with full-on warrior classes, or using the ridiculously overowered spell-creation system (which includes a FRIGGING INVINCIBILTY SPELL they never even bothered to patch). So, I'm not the only one, I guess all my friends are "elite gamers" just like me. :rofl:


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As soon as Skyrim was announced, I was expecting them to say they heard all the complaints from fans about Oblivion being ENTIRELY TOO EASY, instead, they're acting like people actually asked for it to be even easier...so I'm not only let down by Bethesda for a number of reasons, I'm also disappointed in the Elder Scrolls player base, which apparently contains more noobs than I thought. :facepalm:

Wicca Dio: Every gaming franchise has noobs, i was one once too! as were you. so for bethesda to do what any company would, make the player base bigger, i think theyre in the right. Why would they make a game impossible to beat only for you and make everyone else hate it only because you wanted things to be harder? I dont want that, Ive played beth games since Morrowind (i was like 11 or so then, maybe younger) and default difficulty then was moderate, wasnt easy, but wasnt impossible. And the fact that you expected everyone to say it was too easy, versus too hard, kinda tells us how you play. If one out of 100 people say its too easy, then obviously you mistakenly slid your difficulty bar down to impossibly easy especially if you say how you kill a guard set the controller down and leave, come back and 1/4 of your health is gone. Sounds like Noobishly Easy Syndrom to me (NES). Sure it could be a little bit harder initially, but hey thats what the difficulty slider is for.
Skyrim hasnt been released yet
End of Argument

My hope is that Skyrim will not require the amount of Tweaks that FO3 needed. But, from what little that we know about Skyrim so far, I fear that the default game won't be all that challenging for me . . . so I'll likely be modding the game. My skills are average at best (I've been modding for less than 2 years), but I'm slowly getting better at it. It took me a LOT less time to create my NV Tweaks, but it was still 5 months before I had released all 4 of my main modules.

I'm a girl-gamer and, while I do play a LOT of games, I'm not THAT good at the combat part of these games. So it astounds me that so many here found FO3 to be a difficult game.

I'd love to, but i've played Oblivion and Fallout 3 :lmao:

They're not gods, they're just human beings like everyone else. And human beings quite often make mistakes. I have confidence that they've been learning from their mistakes over the years, but I certainly would never have blind faith that they'll get things absolutely right. No doubt there will be alot of holes in the game, and it will be up the modders to fill them in.

Yes, but some of the desgin decision are frankly :facepalm: worthy. Not only the "Diffculty" slider. Oh well, if it goes as previously, i play it and love it between the :facepalm:, complain how [censored] easy and poorly balanced it is, mod the [censored] out of it and end up spending WAYYYY too much time on it. Can't wait really

All im saying is trust them, theyre not out there with the intent of making a bad game, and hasnt so far imo.