Bethesda didn't learn from Fallout 3

Post » Sat Jun 26, 2010 2:29 am

It shouldn't anymore, it was explained why they didn't. It made the game better. Yes, I'd like to keep playing but since I have a save right before Hoover Dam, I guess, I can keep playing? IJS

In your opinion it made a better game. IMO I like knowing what happens. I don t want the ability to choose which side to make win the game if the consequence is me not knowing the canon ending.
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Post » Sat Jun 26, 2010 9:06 am

what if you play from beginning to end in hardcoe, it also tells you that you get some reward. whats the point of getting it if you cant keep going after the main story?

The reward is a psn trophy or 360 gamer points. I don t think you can use the PSN trophy as a weapon, and game points are just numbers next to your pic on xbox live dash board. You don t get a plasma bazooka or anything.
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Post » Fri Jun 25, 2010 6:58 pm

they haven't even given a canon ending for fallout 3yet.. it may have been Obsidian who made the game, its still Bethesda who pulls the strings.
Im sure they are going to use their usual "Warp in the west" / "breaking the dragon" Excuse



I thought they said the canon ending for FO3 was the complete good ending...
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Post » Sat Jun 26, 2010 3:21 am

:facepalm:. Tisk tisk tisk. Another person wondering why you cant go after the dam...its not that big of a issue!!! Next time research your stuff before you start saying things about it.

BTW...

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Elizabeth Falvey
 
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Post » Sat Jun 26, 2010 2:26 am

(but becuase the Ending to FO3 was less than stellar they wanted to wrap up. so you got your broken steel)

This is not why fo3s lead dev said they continued it.

He said they were not going to extend it, but then Bethesda fans didn t like it. ( I take it that Bethesdas other games are open ended?)

Again your opinion original fo3 ending was bad.

Paying the ultimate sacrifice (or possibly sending Sarah Lyons to do it) is a much more meaningful ending than choosing which group to back pack through fo nv, and watching some slides that none of them ever may mean a thing.

Yeah fallout Tactics had like six endings, and thats why we don t know what the [censored] happened with them 10 years later. I hope we go there to see in fo4.

Fo3s lead dev said ending a game is a mistake they will not make again.

I hope that means no wondering what happened or a dlc that basically does tell you what happened.
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Post » Sat Jun 26, 2010 2:09 am

I thought they said the canon ending for FO3 was the complete good ending...

lol what does makz10 think the lonewonderer blew up the Pentagon was the canon ending? The fev was too weak to kill anything it only made some people sick.

Broken Steel was the canon ending. The choice to blow up the bos or Rivit City is just there for the " I have to have a choice"

Fo3 was not your story it was theirs. You just starred in their story, and I m glad I know what happened.

The second I could tell there was going to be 37 endings in nv the game lost a lot of its worth to me. I have 3/4 of someone else s story, and I carry anyone I want FTW? IMO DUMB. It s not my story its theirs. They need to find a way to tell me how thier story ends now. Or will it be another fo tactics? 10 years no canon ending FTW?
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Post » Sat Jun 26, 2010 4:03 am

fine prove me wrong. find the article or post or what ever that STATES (from a dev) which ending is the canon ending. I my self have never seen one. and Im going by Bethesdas OWN track record with games when I talk about the "warp in the west" / "Dragon breaking"

I have no problem with the sacrificing your self or panzing out and making Sarah do it endings. it was at least a Choice with a consequence attached to it. BUT they took that away from you at the beginning of Broken Steel. oh you woke up. how nice. so My choice to sacrifice my self meant absolutely ZERO,

lol what does makz10 think the lonewonderer blew up the Pentagon was the canon ending?


It could be.. you dont know until some one with control of the IP says what is what. until it is set in stone all endings are a possible canon ending.
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Post » Sat Jun 26, 2010 1:21 am

fine prove me wrong. find the article or post or what ever that STATES (from a dev) which ending is the canon ending. I my self have never seen one. and Im going by Bethesdas OWN track record with games when I talk about the "warp in the west" / "Dragon breaking"

I have no problem with the sacrificing your self or panzing out and making Sarah do it endings. it was at least a Choice with a consequence attached to it. BUT they took that away from you at the beginning of Broken Steel. oh you woke up. how nice. so My choice to sacrifice my self meant absolutely ZERO,



It could be.. you dont know until some one with control of the IP says what is what. until it is set in stone all endings are a possible canon ending.

But you said that ending svcked too. IMO Either ending was better than fo nv choose who to backpack endings.

White Knights FTW in fo3.......... take it to the bank.
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Post » Fri Jun 25, 2010 7:38 pm

So, you don't WANT a continued game, you just want a mindless killfest and dungeon crawler? There's plenty of those. Personally, I enjoyed New Vegas's end slides, they filled a hole Fallout 3's ending didnt.

Mr House sir fo nv endings are like major outer space black holes.

It going to be fo tactics all over again. We ll be like 50 years old arguing about cl, or House, or NCR. Then someone will be like "yes man was so awesome," and I ll have to hit myself with the home defibulater.

" Sonny back in 1990 when I was a boy games had endings"

"I m just trying to make it a few more years to see if the canon ending of fo tactics and fo nv ever materialise before the Lord calls me up."

These are all quotes from 25 years from now by us on this board lol
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Post » Fri Jun 25, 2010 8:47 pm

I don't get why these aren't being locked. Its all spam at this point that accomplishes nothing. Obsidian said they had no intention of making a DLC that continues the game after the main quest has been completed.

They said this before the game had even been released. As for the OP, sorry you didn't take the time to read the bulletin that popped up saying you wouldn't be able to play if you continued but guess what its just like if you had just signed a contract without actually reading it. If you just sign a contract without reading it there may be unexpected consequences that you're not going to like...just like when you disregarded the pop up that said the game was ending if you clicked continue.

Basically here's what happened.


*Message pops up*

[The game will end if you continue in the final battle, you won't be able to continue.]

[Proceed to final battle?]

[Yes] <<<--------(player picks) [No]

*Player completes final battle and game ends.*

What the **** why didn't it warn me? I'm so upset I'm gonna join the official forums and throw a fit now.
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Post » Sat Jun 26, 2010 6:21 am

But you said that ending svcked too. IMO Either ending was better than fo nv choose who to backpack endings.

White Knights FTW in fo3.......... take it to the bank.

I've said in the past it was poorly written. yes the whole main questline in FO3 is a Poorly written mess that shoehorns you in to working for the BOS. (i like choices, and I never liked working for or with the BOS in any of the other FO games. but I digress)

and your Probably right, they will probably chose the goodie two shoes ending, since they wouldn't let you at least work for the enclave (main quest wise, not the token FEV or no FEV the water supply token good/evil choice)
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Post » Sat Jun 26, 2010 12:55 am

I swear Obsidian need to use Gabriels idea of a giant flashing banner which is unskippable for 2 minutes.
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Alexx Peace
 
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Post » Fri Jun 25, 2010 10:43 pm

as long as theirs DLC map content released i dont care if the game ends at hoover dam
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Post » Sat Jun 26, 2010 9:38 am



What the **** why didn't it warn me? I'm so upset I'm gonna join the official forums and throw a fit now.

Rofl this.
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Post » Sat Jun 26, 2010 1:53 am

.. ok.. im not gonna argue about who made it. and i loved fallout 3, i got every trophie including all the DLCs. i just want to continue playing new vegas so i can get all my trophies without having to do multiple playthroughs. it completely boggles my mind that they didn't do that in new vegas. they didn't even need an alternate storyline or continued plot to something else, it could have just simply ended at hoover dam, you go back to the lucky eight, get your reward, and then [censored] off and do what ever you want. how could that be so avoideable?


You have no intrest in making other Characters and Role Playing differently? You do know it is an RPG right?

Also you can't get all you pointless Trophies in one go. Some are given out for finishing the game with different Factions. You can't win with Caesar's Legion then turn around and help NCR.

New Vegas as multiple ending based on your actions just like the Originals.

People have already posted why there will not be a Broken New Vegas. If you want more just search through the New Vegas DLC section and you will find more reasons.
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Post » Sat Jun 26, 2010 2:03 am

youl have to excuse me for being "ignorant" but how the flying [censored]could you (bethesda) make the same game with the same problems?...... again? im not talking about bugs, freezing or glitching that the producers never bother to beta test before releasing a game, im used to that,

im talking about when you finish the storyline after HOURS of building rep, finding unique items, leveling up and exploring the vast wastelands only to find out when you finish the main story at the battle of hoover dam, you get ANOTHER giant middle finger saying "haha, thats it, game over dude."

a lesson obviously was not learned after the Broken steel DLC for fallout 3.

so, when are they going to make a DLC to continue playing after hoover dam?


They aren't. Did you watch the end story? The fate of New Vegas was based on what you did, there are 4 major endings and over a dozen minor endings to determine the fate of the Mojave. Believe me, if they spend all the time that it would take to make an after story, to develop something to reflect every decision you made, and to add in all the fun little bits and pieces that we all want in a standard DLC, it sure as hell won't be a DLC worth 15 bucks, it will be a whole new expansion worth 6 times that.
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Post » Fri Jun 25, 2010 7:02 pm

i find it funny how every once in a while somebody will buy this game and get pissed off :swear: about the exact same stuff and one of these threads will appear :laugh:
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Post » Sat Jun 26, 2010 7:22 am

I've said in the past it was poorly written. yes the whole main questline in FO3 is a Poorly written mess that shoehorns you in to working for the BOS. (i like choices, and I never liked working for or with the BOS in any of the other FO games. but I digress)

and your Probably right, they will probably chose the goodie two shoes ending

From my readings the good guys always win in fo canon endings anyway. In fo wiki talks like the bos went wity you to beat the master, but I know you didn t have to use them.

From what I can tell fo canon ending is some bos Paladins went with the player. Even if they didn t in your game.

The op here wants the game to continue because he f ed up, or just wants to run around with Lanius s mask.

Me, I could tell what was going on long before the game started forcing me to make choices twards the end.

To me its about not knowing.
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Post » Sat Jun 26, 2010 7:19 am

If I m Bethesda, and lets just say fo4 picks up the mid west bos, and they are taking on the MLA. I d make the mid west bos dark and the MLA good in general.

I d make you make a choice between the 2, but in the end mid west bos would win, and your MLA character would die in the final battle, or narrowly escape death with a small group of survivors.

This way it will be canon that mid west bos won the area, but you d still be able to do your role playing on both sides. Small towns like Primm....... I can live without knowing what sheriff is canon. Small choices like that are not my problem, but not knowing who won nv drives me up the wall. Obsidian knows.......... They made it up......

When will we know? There is a way to implement a canon ending, and role play with different characters on both sides.

They just need to do it in fo4. You still choose, but you may lose.
There is choices and consequences.........

Is losing to a more powerful force a bad thing?
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Post » Sat Jun 26, 2010 4:45 am

i find it funny how every once in a while somebody will buy this game and get pissed off :swear: about the exact same stuff and one of these threads will appear :laugh:

Its a endless cycle...
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Post » Sat Jun 26, 2010 1:14 am

They aren't. Did you watch the end story? The fate of New Vegas was based on what you did, there are 4 major endings and over a dozen minor endings to determine the fate of the Mojave. Believe me, if they spend all the time that it would take to make an after story, to develop something to reflect every decision you made, and to add in all the fun little bits and pieces that we all want in a standard DLC, it sure as hell won't be a DLC worth 15 bucks, it will be a whole new expansion worth 6 times that.


And this time, the Enclave doesn't get to blame us for killing all the peaceful talking deathclaws they made! (They did it, I watched the security feed! How they manage to blame the Chosen One for that from beyond the grave is a mystery!)
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Post » Sat Jun 26, 2010 6:41 am

They gave you a message saying that if you have to or want to do anyhting else before the battle, now is the time to do it. Yes they'll have DLC to keep the game going afterwards, and while I think it's a cash in 3/5 of the Fallout 3 DLC's were pretty good. Still you were given fair warning, quit whining.
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Post » Sat Jun 26, 2010 5:58 am

just would like to have the simple option of finishing the main quest then cleaning up the rest of what ever quests are left for my character before i go for a different playthrough with a different faction.



You do realize you can do ALL of the sidequests and explorations, then FINISH the game, right? :rofl:
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Post » Sat Jun 26, 2010 9:00 am

You do realize you can do ALL of the sidequests and explorations then FINISH the game, right? :rofl:

except for the faction specific ones, or ones that become unavailable when you have a low rep with the quest giving faction.
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Post » Sat Jun 26, 2010 12:41 am

There are four main outcomes which means four trophies so you can't get it all through one play through. It is a RPG, make more then one character. If you don't like the idea of Role Playing why are you playing an RPG?! You can't finish the game with NCR and then turn around and side with Legion. Does not work that way. Game has multiple endings and multiple options to play.

Put it this way. Your Actions have Consequences. Once you piss off one faction you can't just turn around and be friends with them. Even more so when you wipe one out like Mr.House. You can't do eveything in New Vegas in one play through.
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