This.
I play on console, a lot of gamers do. Despite that Todd has stated that the PC version looks and does a few things better if it's on the right hardware. That's great, good for
you guys. But there's no need to degrade console gamers for not being the 'real and original fanbase' because that's
just silly. No I haven't played Daggerfall, but that might be because i was 4 when it came out... Not because I don't appreciate TES.

Tell your PC brethren to stop pirating it then

Ahhh....
Because you have some ?real? figures to back your claim, right?
Didn't think so.

Actually I wished that all 3 versions were unique. The 360 being able to run great, the PS3 taking advantage of the hardware that the 360 can't access and the PC getting full access of DirectX11. Sadly that's not going to happen which isn't bad as graphics don't make a game great and if it does then it's a 5 hour storyline game with multiplayer. I have faith in BGS that they will get all 3 consoles to run great just don't expect super flashy stuff outside of mods for the PC.

Catering equally to everyone equally isn't possible. It just isn't. The only reason this supposed 90 to 10 statistic is true is because more people can afford consoles. You have to appeal to one side. Equal is NOT possible. I own a console and a PC and the only games I really play on consoles are third person games. I'm just tired of PC gamers getting overshadowed.

I didnt give statistics, Im merely stating that the person who did did not base his assumption on any numbers. It was a "guess", and a guess in statistics is just a steamy pile.

This is a PC vs Console war waiting to happen.

Stop acting all high and mighty because you're a PC gamer. They'll do what they want and most people play on the Console anyway, so it'd be probably a waste of time and money porting it from PC to Console.

Yeah they are going to throw millions of dollars away to please 10% errrrrrrrrrrm no.

Wait, you think they only sold 3 million units of Oblivion total? I think they've sold more than that on the PS3.

I agree.

I sir, am a pc gamer and I do not feel like we get the short end of the stick at all. I am a modder, I have the creation kit and the drive to make the game what I want it to be. I played Morrowind on the PC for years after first getting it for xbox. Bethesda literally gives us their engine so that we can go in and look around. I'd say that caters to us. The thing about the construction set is, if you release it, they will build it, and others will come. If you worry about the game catering to the console, I suggest that you learn how to work the CS. Bethesda is a great company and they give us unmitigated freedom with their work, if they focus on the console, so be it. We have mods and mods have kept Morrowind on store shelves for damn near 9 years, so they must be doing something right.

I am a PC gamer, but sometimes you have to make sacrifices, but here's the kicker: it's gonna revolutionize the genre, so it doesn't really matter. Skyrim will be great, no matter what you play it on. The only difference is that on the PC you can do far more with it, so enjoy what you have, and build what you don't.

Oh please.. It will look great on PS3 and Xbox360 and even better on PC.

Yeah. Well, we don't have many hard figures to support either side, but there are enough vague figures to create a sort of marshmallow of truth.
As I said above, TESNexus has registered about 1.2 million unique visitors. That's indicative of pretty high sales, especially given that many PC users won't use mods (Though I have absolutely *no* hard figures to back that one up)
Oblivion ranked top of sales charts for long after its release, and I believe got very high in the steam charts when it was released there.
Now, armed with Oblivion's relative position in the retail charts, there are a few figures. A quick search for the best selling games of 2007 brings up a few details (Though the data itself is far from accurate, due to there being very few sales figures released, the sales numbers that there are there do tend to be accurate), giving us numbers from 2.25 million (WoW: BC) to 236k (Er, The Sims 2 Pets Expansion Pack). Given that Oblivion ranked closer to WoW than The Sims, at least to my recollection, that gives an estimated figure *in release year* of significantly higher than the about 300k a 90/10 split would give. And, crucially, no tracking, ranking, or just raw data (from 2007, anyway) took into account digital distribution (indeed, very little does today), so the numbers I'm working off are very likely artificially deflated.

So yes, I have some real figures to back up my claim.

Regardless of the %'s, bethesda is going to sell to the crowd that gives the most money, not to the other just cause their old time friends. This is something that isnt going to change any time soon, all I can say is buy it for PC and not console :shrug:

When the head of PR says something like that, i'd say it's more accurate than not.

I'm willing the bet that there is more than one reason that the sales were less for the PC version.

All I want is the game to be made separately based on the programming api of each. Yes they are catering to PC's by making the game run better on PC's. But that's only because PC's can handle it. If you don't think console gaming is holding gaming back all together, then idk.

Ok first off anyone playing on a console claiming it is because of controllers is just...i don't want to say an idiot but c'mon, PC's have controllers too and I am a PC that only uses a controller to play games.

Secondly sales figures from FO3 indicate that PC's are closer to 25% of the market but that still puts us in the minority.

Thirdly, the fact that the entire engine is designed with modding in mind means we PCs are actually getting first consideration and beyond that Bethesda is doing the right thing by supporting all platforms equally.

There are people who believe anything a PR guy says?

I'll be playing on PC, but don't really mind if it doesn't take advantage of the latest technology. I'll only upgrade if the game doesn't run.

They sold what, 5.5 million? 10% puts the PC at around 550K? That's about 1/2 or even 1/3 the number of PC sales a typical AAA rpg title is going to sell if not less. If you split the consoles 50/50 that puts them at about 2.5 million each, which is about what you would expect.

So if you are in the business of making money and you see one market that you are have already reached pretty much the largest audience you can expect and another market you haven't even reached 1/2 of, which market are you going to focus on more?

I can already see the marketing folks over at Bethesda just drooling with anticipation at the possibilities of doubling or even tripling their presence in the PC market. Someone would be able to make their career on a number like that.

PC Audience?! What are you doing being unrealistically small?

When it comes to sales figures amongst the 3 platforms? Yes.

And that would be?
Not addressing you specifcally, but
The ?I'm sure the vast majority of TES fans likes/dislikes/prefers ____ (insert whichever feature/platform)? kind of sentence is fast becoming popular.
I just think it'd be nice, for a change, for such bold claims to be backed with some hard data and not just hard wishful thinking.