Bethesda Feminist or What?

Post » Fri Dec 11, 2015 7:14 pm

It really doesn't help that they made the minigun in this game look as phallic as they could possibly manage: the way the ammo cartridge hangs under the barrel, the proportions of the thing, the fact that it's held right at crotch level... and then they go and give them 10/1 to female characters. My conclusion: someone on the Bethesda dev team snuck a fetish into the game.

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Christine Pane
 
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Post » Fri Dec 11, 2015 12:43 pm

Guns are phallic though! Can't really avoid that comparison.

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Penny Flame
 
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Post » Sat Dec 12, 2015 4:57 am

OP probably thinks he could beat Ronda Rousey in the octagon, too.

Some women are tough as [censored]. Some men are weak as [censored]. Diversity is a hell of a thing isn't it?

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Nick Jase Mason
 
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Post » Sat Dec 12, 2015 4:07 am

OMG yes, this is so true. What's a trip is that 3 weeks ago there was a nut case making threads declaring Bethesda to be anti-female.

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Anna S
 
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Post » Fri Dec 11, 2015 6:17 pm

Are the female companions really better fighters? I hadn't noticed a considerable difference. Cait is good for lockpicking and Valentine for terminals and of course their dialogue, quests, and perks are different. I just haven't noticed a significant difference in combat.
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Post » Sat Dec 12, 2015 5:16 am

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YO MAma
 
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Post » Fri Dec 11, 2015 6:57 pm

To some degree, sure.

But come on, look at the minigun.

https://38.media.tumblr.com/c786bdd18582a8455cdf26f1be78291e/tumblr_npzud6rQPU1s7wrwho6_400.gif

Come on.

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Post » Fri Dec 11, 2015 1:58 pm

Haha...yep.

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Leticia Hernandez
 
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Post » Fri Dec 11, 2015 6:28 pm

There's the term of the smart idiot, you know.

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Post » Fri Dec 11, 2015 10:20 pm

Strong is melee and is easily equal to Cait and he's a male. I found all companions to be as equally annoying and obstructive. The only companions I can tolerate are Curie and Dogmeat, the rest just get in the way all the time and cause major problems.

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Post » Fri Dec 11, 2015 3:43 pm

If half the examples he gave looked like that we wouldnt be having this discussion

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Post » Fri Dec 11, 2015 6:45 pm

And I have no problem with women fighting, as I said. Annie Oakley could kill me from 500 yards away without a scope. However they are weaker then men, that's fact. I'm sure plenty of women can kill me with their bare hands, but there is a man who will crush them because they simply have advantages nature gave them.

You are a feminist who has no view of reality. Actually, you are a hypocrite because you are fine with women having all the heavy gear and don't mind men are under represented in the area.

You are going to have to dumb this down for me a bit. I agree Bethesda does the "Barbie and Ken" thing, differences are only cosmetic. My issue, is they take it TOO far, women seem to get MORE heavy gear. I do not understand what you mean by more then 2 sixes. As the kid in Kinder Garden Cop said: "boys have a [censored], girls have a [censored]" I don't care if you are gay, or lisbian but I firmly believe you are what you are born... no surgery will fix that. A guy can snip his junk and call himself a girl but I will call him a male.

You don't read very well, and you confirmed my point, thanks. No woman in the game looks like that. They all look like ballet dancers. Maybe if Cait and all the Women using Miniguns/Flamers looked that way I would have less of an issue. She would toss me out of the ring but then a man who spend the same amount of time working out as she does would do the same to her.

What? How the hell do women fit the heavy fighter role more then men do? In no place in your post do you explain that first line. It would be dumb for a small man to hold a minigun as well. However, men have more natural strength. Its a fact. Again as I have said to others, its more an issue that more women then men have the big guns and big armor, not an that any at all have it.

Did you read my post? I'm fine with women being a good shot with rifles or pistols. Oh I saw the movie twice, once in theaters once on a plane. Im quite sure Max beat Furiosa in the fight they had, WITH 3 women aiding her, or did we see different movies?

I know right!? I was going to post this too but forgot. Seriously, any of you hating me in this thread, go on the Prydwen and do like this guy said, they are like 80% female.

Thats just it, its NOT equal. Look at the above quote and look around the game. Women get all the best gear.

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Robert Bindley
 
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Post » Fri Dec 11, 2015 2:51 pm

Well er... so what if it was 'feminist'? That's cool, no?

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Post » Sat Dec 12, 2015 12:49 am

Yikes.

http://i.imgur.com/vwSzqF8.gifv

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Gemma Archer
 
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Post » Sat Dec 12, 2015 3:19 am

I'm following the hat.

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Post » Fri Dec 11, 2015 5:30 pm

If his examples looked like Ronda Rousey thatd be one thing, but Cait looks like a twig

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Post » Fri Dec 11, 2015 6:43 pm

http://i.imgur.com/FIqh3AZ.gif

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Post » Fri Dec 11, 2015 5:57 pm

Correction...a minigun is a pea-shooter, it is the weakest weapon in the game, so if you go by your perception that heavier muscle should wield the more powerful weapons, putting miniguns in the hands of females nails it pretty well...

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Post » Sat Dec 12, 2015 2:45 am

Yes there are differences between the sixes anyone from a toddler on up can SEE these differences. But absolutely none of those differences would result in a female being unable to use heavy weapons or be a raider leader or use power armour.

Not a single point you raise in this post actually precludes Females in a post apocalyptic world of FO4 using heavy weapons and thus taking on a heavy weapons role. You can use a minigun with just 3 strength hell probably 1 strength (I just never made a 1 strength character yet). So please tell me how any of your points are relevant to the topic at hand. Simple regurgitation of information is not actually being clever when what you say is completely irrelevant. If a male character with 3 strength can wield a minigun how is ANY of what you say relevant? What possible differences between the sixes would apply that would prohibit any one of these women from picking up a powerful weapon? Seems to me if you were weaker than those around you using a more powerful weapon would sure make those people stronger than you take notice and respect or at least fear you more because they know if they step out of line you can and WILL blast them into next year.

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Post » Fri Dec 11, 2015 11:02 pm

This is so delicious. It's like a little packet of juicy roadkill. There's so many things wrong with it that I think I'll just go outside and bash my head against the wall for a while.

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Post » Fri Dec 11, 2015 8:22 pm

Meh honestly i think you people are just looking for things to be bothered about, cant wait to see what will the next topic like this be about.

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Post » Fri Dec 11, 2015 4:39 pm

lol.

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Post » Fri Dec 11, 2015 10:23 pm

Yet you can't pick out anything wrong with it so you don't. Please show me where anything I said was wrong. Try.

Prove I'm wrong on average women don't have the better gear or tougher roles. Im not the only person who notices it, it was noticed and modded in Skyrim and its much more extreme in Fallout 4.

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Post » Sat Dec 12, 2015 12:25 am

Btw, I am totally trying to resist the temptation to interact with the majority of the op and following comments. I despise feminism and egalitarianism, find them philosophically indefensible, and find their adherants to be self-contradictory and hypocritical. That being said, it is a video game. As long as I understand that video games, like the majority of consumable entertainment, are not a reflection of a meta-physical reality then I can enjoy it for what it is.

In reality, women are not generally physical equals to men and it's for that reason that women and children are the overwhelming victims of domestic abuse. Some would say that's politically incorrect, but then again, political correctness is a trojan horse and double standard, so I could care less.
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Post » Sat Dec 12, 2015 12:38 am


Sorry, can't hear you over the sound of how AWESOME my ginger, freckled, scarred and badass lady is. Watch as she beats the crud out of Deathclaws like it's no tomorrow, then drinks beer with Cait before engaging in hot lisbian six before mounting into her power armor for more ass kicking. BoS? Institute? BRING IT ON!! HHHUURRRAAAAAGGHH!!!
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