Oblivion was made with consoles in mind infact, thats why I said earlier that this is where the dumbing down started, because that is where the complexity of elder scrolls took the biggest hit.

However, PC users have always been Bethesdas staunchest players, and pandering to the console crowd which arn't even the largest player base, seems rather foolish.

In nearly every game you could do an alchemy stacking exploit. Balance is unknown in TES games even though they are massively fun

:D

Yea,golden middle which means it can suit both hardcoe rpgers and mainstream players,and it wasnt perfect at all.

So now we're onto platform wars?

This thread has it all.

TES fans are the worst kinds of hipsters...

Arena and Daggerfall were basically 98% cave/dungeon exploring, and that what Elder Scrolls have been missing since Morrowind. I like the fact that the caves/dungeons in this game are the main thing and that they are big this time. To me this game feels closer to what made me fall in love with The Elder Scrolls in the first place.

IMO this how I would order the games in greatness.

1- Daggerfall
2- Arena
3- Skyrim
4- Morrowind
5- Oblivion

Get mad at me all you want, but I never played Morrowind. I think most people who say Morrowind was the best game, was because it was your first elder scrolls, hence the nostalgic value and totally different gameplay experience. As I say same with oblivion, overall I had more fun in oblivion then Skyrim, because it was a new gaming experience for me. Even thou I know for fact I couldn't go back to Oblivion, because Skyrim is better kinda weird huh? For those who played Daggerfall first seem to think Morrowind and Oblivion were bad. I seems to be the same results on who played what game first.

Morrowind is the third.

But almost twice as large as Morrowind. It's the same size, area-wise, as Oblivion.

Want to know a dirty secret? Morrowind is a console-oriented game.

This isn't a FPS game for crap sake.

At least read the first post before placing a comment on a topic and saying things that got nothing to do with anything discussed here..

Built for PC ported to console. Big difference, most AAA games today are built for console ported to PC. Like Skyrim

I'm with you on this... although I never played Arena, I miss the dungeon crawling in Daggerfall. Skyrim seems to have brought back that feel to it (atleast to some degree).

Here OP, think I solved the problem for you. First, grab http://www.amazon.com/Elder-Scrolls-III-Morrowind-Game-Pc/dp/B0000CNUUP.
Next you'll want to download http://planetelderscrolls.gamespy.com/View.php?view=Mods.Detail&id=8987.
After that just grab anything to further enhance your desired experience.

Have fun.
:flamethrower:

Uhhh

Cheers

When the game stops out selling its predecessor in this first week.



Sorry, it is not "many people" is the loud minority who cant stop whining. There was a poll about how satisfied this community was on TESV. The pro's easily beat the con's at a 5-1 clip. In other words there was one hater for every five lovers.




This is subjective. You make this statement as if it's true or a valid premise to operate under and are surprised when people with disagree with you. Sale's figures say you are wrong. More people are buying the game as TES progressivly goes more mainstream thereby hitting a larger percentage of customers. That is what being the video game industry is about, hitting that sweet middle ground of players and gamesas has done it well. While I'm sure they wish they could please everyone at launch, its impossible. Here is the kicker, the game is moddable and has the ability to add content for the next 5-7 years so almost anyone who buys the PC version will have a large amount of free downloadable content that hits every facet of the game.

What are the odds this is the same guy posting the same topic over and over?

Yay, another Morrowind thread.

Since Oblivion the "console crowd" has made up around 80% of the TES userbase. Check up your facts before bashing a part of the userbase and spreading ignorance.

Skyrim sold almost 3.5 million units at retail, of which 15% were PC. At that time, it peaked at 175k concurrent users online on Steam, and it's a Steamworks game, so retail copies concur to that mount. The PC vs console split, first week, was probably something like 500k vs 3 millions.

TES is a console oriented saga now because the lion share of its fans are console gamers. And judging from this forum, I'm starting to think Bethesda is fairly glad of that.

I guess I'm one of the mainstream players gamesas wanted to get because I haven't played any of the TES games and I LOVE Skyrim. I wanted to play oblivion, but by the time I showed interest the game had already been out for a while so I didn't bother. I bought Skyrim for my ps3, but I came from playing PC games you know the usual fps counter strike, team fortress, half life, etc until I just didn't have the money/desire to keep up with the hardware upgrades I continued onto console games. But playing Skyrim and knowing the PC community will have mods for this game makes me want to build a PC so I can enjoy Skyrim long after I've finished the game. That's what I missed about PC gaming was the community that modded the game to extend the life of the game. That is also why I stopped playing any fps games for console because once a new one comes out everybody just flocks to that new game and all of a sudden the servers are empty. I'm late to all the TES games, but I'm glad I picked up Skyrim and I'm sorry OP that you feel that gamesas has dumbed down Skyrim for players like me, but you describing Morrowmind makes me want to play that too!