You can tell them to give it up all you want, but you can never break them, or their indomitable spirit. I do not recall to memory a time when Bethesda broke, or cowered.

My second ctd happened when I was trying to see how many fighting actors I could have onscreen at once.(300) BoS powerarmor Raiders and deathclaws

It's more than quibbles for some people, man.

I literally cannot play this game comfortably because I'm left handed and I can't rebind my keyboard properly.

That's not a quibble. It's a glaring oversight that would prevent me from spending money on this game even if it was the only problem.

Some would argue that they got rid of pointless crap that has nothing to do with role playing.

Others just look at the people arguing about rollplaying, shrug, think man they must love arguing more than whatever it is they are arguing about and wander away.

Fallout 4 is now the most played game on steam. You feelings and opinions are your own, but the numbers are not revealing a large scale of discontent.

ok let say you right for the house stuff even if fallout 3 was a lot more open than that. the only reason to not make an open map for the cities, cave ... is it take less power for the game to run that it.

So tell me about the number of weapons and armor in the game please give a reason why is so low amount of them ? again less stuff in game ask less power to the game and also less money to invest in the game.

and is no other explanation because take fallout 3 and NV. It was working well and was a lot more open and a lot more stuff in it

That didn't make a lick of sense...

First off the amount of weapons and armor is fine, its what was expected.

Second off, the amount of weapons/armor has nothing to do with the "power" of the game.

If by that you mean performance, the amount of equippable objects in game literally has zero impact. The amount of enter-able houses in game does have an impact on performance however, and thats why BGS did not fill the cities out.

The only 2 problems I am having are long load screens during Fast Travel and FPS drop in the city. Fps drop should not be happening. I have an R9 390 Nitro with an I7-3770k.

How are you guys's load times on HDD's?

My screens load in 60 to 90 seconds. I am thinking it is because I am playing the game on "high" display, with virtually no problems other than the long loads. When I installed the game it recommended a setting less than "high" (medium?), so while the game plays with no hesitation at all on "high", I'm thinking the long loads may be due to my selecting a higher display setting for game play. It does take away from the immersion of the game waiting so long for the next screen.

Maybe not necessarily true. I'm playing it, but I am disappointed with it compared to prior Bethesda releases. Playing it does not mean I think it is a great game, just means it is not a terrible game.

That's something that bugged me in Skyrim. I'm trying to RP a sneaky archer, all my perks are in stealth and archery, so I need to take out enemies at a distance before they see me. And then Bethesda script a bunch of enemies to pop out of the woodwork right in my face. It's game design that hasn't considered characters who aren't a tank; or replay (they always pop out in the same place because it's scripted).

I actualy play the game, I buy it ! but actualy some people here don't like some side of the game and show it here too so you know that your feelings and opinions too

OP, i am quite sorry to hear that. My com specs: i5-4690, 8gb RAM, R9-270X 2GB, game is mounted on HDD (OS on SSD); automatic graphics settings was put to Ultra (weird right, for my com specs). Less than 30s load time (or at least the wait is bearable). I think you got scammed on those PC parts you bought; otherwise, it could be the dust.

The dialog interface is interesting granted that I'm very used to FO3 and FNV style.

I haven't really explored the whole place becos Survival difficulty is not as easy as one expects... so I'm slowly going through the game.

The number of weapons in FO4, I agree with you, are a lot fewer than both FO3 and FNV. However, Bethesda did make up for this by having mods for every weapon; a simple mathematical function of permutation and combination will give you the finding that this means A WHOLE LOT MORE different weapons although many of them are just variants of one another. I have spent close to 1/4 of my total play time (thereabouts) modding weapons and scrapping the useless ones, I mean c'mon its a survival game, of course you make do with the few things you can find.

The perk system is a really refreshing change from FNV and FO3. I think there are less perks this time? And we can't add stats (OMG!) to like Barter or Small Guns. This sort of removes a huge RP element but IMO this is compensated with a heavy focus on SPECIAL and perk levels. IMHO i feel that this way of adding perks and removing stat additions "humanizes" the player; in the sense that i.e Small Guns improves damage of a weapon but honestly, should the damage of a 9mm be any different depending on the user? I mean, realistically speaking, the damage of a 9mm is only based on the hit area (check), the caliber type (check) as well as the weapon (check); it should in no way be affected by the attribute of a person.

Every game will have its pros and cons. Just deliver the way you marketed it. And Bethesda really did deliver as they marketed it in E3 this year.
Besides, if you have done programming or coding before, you can imagine the pain that the developers went through for such an awesome release.
Kudos to Bethesda!

re: color. Actually, I'm quite happy with the style & color of the world. As others have said, nuclear weapons & fallout don't automatically remove color from the visible light spectrum.

One of the first mods I got for FO3 was to remove the green tint/dust from the air. And later, in both FO3 and FONV, I used Dynavision/Imaginator to increase the color saturation & contrast a bit.

I'm surrounded by ruins/wreckage/etc. Looks pretty post-apoc to me.

...and it isn't always colorful. Radiation storms, rain, fog...

hmm have you people even played fallout 3 it's just as bad, Shoot fallout 3 would crash like crazy on the 360 and PC had serveral graphic problems. Also had the flying deathclaws on both. This is bethesda they never fixed the problems of fallout 3 so what makes you think these will be fixed.

Also how do people know the game was ported from console to PC and not the other way around. You guys do know most if not all development companys have serveral departments that take care of PC and consoles separate. You also have to think that some people like to play games on PC, but with a controller. So allot of games are given controller support.

My favorite PC Supremacists seems to agree with the thread: http://i.imgur.com/yknlfNN.png

Wait...what? Are we playing the same game? I'm serious. I've seen so many over the top criticisms I literally ignore the openly antagonistic threads (which are so obviously motivated by intentions other than a willingness to have an open discussion), but I have to ask...what in the hell are you talking about?

There are more guns, armor, and armor pieces than I can carry, or dump off on my companions! I literally have more containers than I can count spread across the wasteland filled with guns and armor pieces dropped from raider, mutant, and whatever else engagements...not to mention the numerous items one finds just conducting even a cursory exploration of any given area.

If anything, this game is too dense with weapons and armor. Of all the criticisms I may personally have, this isn't even close to one of them. Sorry not seeing it...at all. Oh, and what the hell does this have to do with PC performance?

first off, i suggest working on your grammar, it's actually hard to understand something you try to say. now, the dialogue system is god awful on consoles as well, the AI is brilliant, the map is superb (seriously i cannot gush about that enough), the brown, grey and green of the past was horrible and the perk system is okay (could use some tweaks but is fine) but i agree there could be more weapons/armor (but there could always be more)

I also love the style and color in this game.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=STYJYeoiozQ

I agree with OP's setiment. This is really a console game. Betheda has been nice enough to port it to the PC, so I can play it. For that I thank them. If it had actual PC controls, it would have been the best game of all time.

I put mine away. I will wait for the modders to fix this pile.

Bethesda, I will not be paying full price on day one anymore. I do that to show support. Now you have done this to us, you have a shark fin stuck in an uncomfortable place. You have joined id there. Irony? Yup!

Exactly. If you want a nuclear apocalypse, then head to the Glowing Sea (SW corner of map). It makes the Capital Wasteland look like a Tropical Paradise. Bethesda has almost got the balance right for the destruction and regrowth that a world recovering from nuclear devastation is supposed to have especially 210 years after the bombs dropped.

Will wait for modders to try to fix this. Will wait for games to be $10 before buying in the future, given that it's always such a gamble.

Forums sadly become nothing but rage and really devoted fan rage-back.

LOL at people with super computers trying to run games at 280fps and wondering why it's breaking.

Oh look. Its this discussion again.

If you want RP games go to RP companies. Or Semi RP companies. Someone who wants an immersive story. The more you cater to the Console crowd, the more the RP suffers. Its been that way since forever. But the Bucks are in Console games. So companies do really try hard for the "perfect" combo. Look at ME3 or DAI. BiowEAre was once the benchmark studio for storytelling. Now? Nobody who has ever rolled a d20 would consider BiowEAre a "Roleplaying Game Company". Its a hack and slash / plug the bot game with RPG elements at best. Metal Gear solid ripoff at worst. But its where the money is. Level progression, perks, added abilities, that just makes you kill something faster, instead of initiating dialogue or giving you other options besides plugging, picking, robbing, driving, better faster harder and easier.

Thats just the way the dougnut tumbles.