Bethesda has spoken. : V - Skyrim

» Wed Dec 14, 2011 1:47 pm

New quests could work, sure. New items, unless generic looking items with pretty enchantments, new buildings, and new land would need new textures and meshes, so it wouldn't work.

Steam workshop probably won't even work. <_< The mod sites will be fine.

So why can't they install mods that add new textures? It's not like it's impossible to copy new things into existing folders, DLCs do the exact same thing.

Only thing you'll be missing is the script extender...

» Wed Dec 14, 2011 6:58 pm

New quests could work, sure. New items, unless generic looking items with pretty enchantments, new buildings, and new land would need new textures and meshes, so it wouldn't work.

Steam workshop probably won't even work. <_< The mod sites will be fine.

Well it isn't the textures and meshes by themselves that would be a problem. What I meant was that the high resolution textures would be a problem, and that's going to be what the majority of texture mods are attempting. A new weapon with a mesh and texture that are comparable to what is in the vanilla game would be completely feasible.

Also, I have faith in Valve to do what they say they are going to do, unless it involves making a game with the number 3 in it.

» Wed Dec 14, 2011 8:08 pm

You are putting words in my mouth... I don't care what holiday they celebrate... it has nothing to do with not fixing the game. (As the original comment to me was about.)

The original comment was... "Give them a break, it's the holidays"

My reply is... WTF does that have to do with fixing the game. Nothing. Especially since, most of the world, is not on break, just because a few people with kush-jobs seem to have months-off. I work for a living, hard, on holidays, since holidays have nothing to do with your jobs... there is always a holiday, every month... If that was the spirit of work.. then take the year off... I don't mind if you hold on to my money a few months longer... I'll just sit and wait, and post. Since that is what I do on holidays.

I'm not sure what your complaint is. They are fixing the game. Coding errors get priority. Really you're only three choices are 1. Wait for the fix (which they stated will start next week) 2. Return the game to the store for a refund. Obviously, based on the fact that youre in the forums, youre choosing #1. And the post Beth put out says their doing it. Sooo.........

» Wed Dec 14, 2011 3:36 pm

Nothing about the lack of 64bit support, nice!

» Wed Dec 14, 2011 7:10 pm

Nothing about the lack of 64bit support, nice!

Quoted for importance.

» Wed Dec 14, 2011 10:45 am

I don't like the Steam Workshop. Just a way to control modders and content, although it seems lika a good idea for people who don't really know how to get mods working.

Hm, and still nothing about a 64 Bit exe with LAA, srsly Beth, that's about the only [censored]in issue I've got with the game.

I will still use Skyrim Nexus, because that should be the way to get texture mods!

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3 people, 1 thought. ^^

» Wed Dec 14, 2011 1:29 pm

I don't like the Steam Workshop. Just a way to control modders and content, although it seems lika a good idea for people who don't really know how to get mods working.

I don't see how it will control modders, they can still use nexus if the rules are too heavy-handed. Valve has a good track record on this though, so I think it will be handled well. If not, there is always an escape clause

» Wed Dec 14, 2011 9:58 pm

it really svcks they aren't working on quests until january. what exactly are the bugged quests? i know there is one in the companions but not sure which one. i haven't even started that questline because of that.

» Wed Dec 14, 2011 10:47 pm

I don't like the Steam Workshop. Just a way to control modders and content, although it seems lika a good idea for people who don't really know how to get mods working.

Hm, and still nothing about a 64 Bit exe with LAA, srsly Beth, that's about the only [censored]in issue I've got with the game.

I will still use Skyrim Nexus, because that should be the way to get texture mods!

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3 people, 1 thought. ^^

I don't know. Steam Workshop could be a nice front-end for people who are new to mods, or that want to simply play them without worrying too much (although load order issues will always be a worry, I'm afraid...), but I don't know if it'll facilitate things for modders (other than easy uploads) or people who want to edit some mod they downloaded.

I think I'll go to sites, too. It's the way I've always played with mods. Although I'll give a glimpse to the Workshop as well.

» Wed Dec 14, 2011 6:11 pm

So this means.....

When Bethesda releases a new game it is best to buy it 3 months AFTER they release it to ensure I can play it?

Gotcha

No, it just means you should never update a Bethesda game after the first patch.

» Wed Dec 14, 2011 6:15 pm

Well this is all good news. Certainly glad to know when the CK is going to arrive now.

Go Bethesda. :toughninja:

» Wed Dec 14, 2011 11:06 am

You know whats funny? Those people who go from Bethesda is the worst company, until they saying something on twitter and then say they are the best.

How does one have such tenacity?

lol; its call raging and unless you are a total internet nOOb, its what people do now. You know, when you pay money that is hard to come by these days for a game that has over 450 bugs documented and about a dozen are being fixed at a time. Do the math; we'll either never get them all fixed, or Bethesda will be releasing the final patch when I'm 80.

» Wed Dec 14, 2011 6:25 pm

I don't see how it will control modders, they can still use nexus if the rules are too heavy-handed. Valve has a good track record on this though, so I think it will be handled well. If not, there is always an escape clause

I just don't like it, when companies control too much.

If you look at the announcement on the Nexus, you can see their concern, that the Nexus will become affiliated with many pirates, because they can't get the Mods over Steam Works. And now call me paranoid (I can't blame you, I am paranoid regarding this ^^), but I think this might be a way to get the Nexus site down for good, by accusing it of promoting piracy and getting full control over the modding community.

@Dovakhan

Just like I said. It is a good way for people who haven't used mods before, but otherwise I don't see a point in getting Valve involved in the modding community. Bad enough, that we need Steam to play the game.

» Wed Dec 14, 2011 5:20 pm

Hallelujah, now we can move on with our lives.

» Wed Dec 14, 2011 6:50 pm

Just like I said. It is a good way for people who haven't used mods before, but otherwise I don't see a point in getting Valve involved in the modding community. Bad enough, that we need Steam to play the game.

Yea, its kinda strange and weird when you go into a retail store now and can't find a game on the shelf. Everyone knew what they were doing when they invented Steam. A self-perpetuating piece of software that forces you to rely more and more upon it as you buy more and more games from it.

» Wed Dec 14, 2011 2:57 pm

Don't bother trying to say that...

The people here think that they are robots that are programmed to fix everything.

Hah, if I told my boss on Dec 1st that I wasn't going to do any work because it's "christmas time" I'd be fired on the spot. The game came out Nov 11 and at no point between then and now did christmas occur and it will not occur until Dec 25. Christmas is not an entire season despite what retail stores tell you.

» Wed Dec 14, 2011 12:22 pm

Yay. Cheers for Bethesda !

They deserve a Nord Mead.

» Thu Dec 15, 2011 2:31 am

Yea, its kinda strange and weird when you go into a retail store now and can't find a game on the shelf. Everyone knew what they were doing when they invented Steam. A self-perpetuating piece of software that forces you to rely more and more upon it as you buy more and more games from it.

It's really nothing more than a console platform for the PC. It's not some sinister plot to steal your gaming soul. It's a way to centralize your gaming experience, and it's one that most gamers have come to appreciate.

» Wed Dec 14, 2011 2:50 pm

so until January i have a $60 coaster. that's just [censored] wonderful.

» Wed Dec 14, 2011 1:07 pm

Hah, if I told my boss on Dec 1st that I wasn't going to do any work because it's "christmas time" I'd be fired on the spot. The game came out Nov 11 and at no point between then and now did christmas occur and it will not occur until Dec 25. Christmas is not an entire season despite what retail stores tell you.

I think the point is that not as much work will get done because of people taking time off to plan and be with their families sporatically around the holidays. The same exact thing is true where I work and at most places; things that can wait generally will wait.

» Wed Dec 14, 2011 9:59 pm

so until January i have a $60 coaster. that's just [censored] wonderful.

Yup so move on man

» Wed Dec 14, 2011 12:26 pm

Hallelujah, now we can move on with our lives.

We had lives? :blink:

:P

» Wed Dec 14, 2011 11:40 am

It's an honest and caring message. There has been so much hate on Bethesda in only a relative small amount of time after the release of the patch. It's exactly the kind of answer i was hoping for. Acknowledgement of the problem, the rough idea of how the people who can actually do something are setting up their schedule and priorities and a bit of self-mocking in the proces (amazing flying dragon anyone?). Most of the complaints i have seen adress the fact that Bethesda didn't respond. To me it's clear they took the time to make a clear and specific view of the problems and how they are going to correct them, this helps all of us more. Well done. :foodndrink:

» Wed Dec 14, 2011 10:14 am

Hah, if I told my boss on Dec 1st that I wasn't going to do any work because it's "christmas time" I'd be fired on the spot. The game came out Nov 11 and at no point between then and now did christmas occur and it will not occur until Dec 25. Christmas is not an entire season despite what retail stores tell you.

The gaming industry needs some serious oversight imo. They are the only entity that can release a defective product and not be held liable for something as simple as a refund. Blaming piracy is always the scapegoat for the same developers/publishers that refuse to even remotely acknowledge they are at least partially responsible for the perpetuation of piracy due to draconian drm and the consumers limited resources when an IP is defective in some way.

» Wed Dec 14, 2011 2:11 pm

God, hopefully this will bring some sanity/maturity back to the boards. I won't hold my breath though.