I don't know I don't like Piper.. I tried to but something about her looks strange to me... I think Cait would be better if her hair was a different style. But yes Bethesda needs to let fans design the female toons, that guy that does the beauty mods would be a good hire

Witcher 3 NAILED the women... I mean they did a dang good job.

I suppose, if you like the "Crack-Ho" look. On the plus side, at least she's a red-head.

Witcher 3 NAILED the women if you like hypersixualized stereotypes wearing inappropriately revealing outfits and high-heels to help save the world and don't get me started on the actual prosttutes. I kept wanting to tell Ciri to "Button up your blouse young lady, you look like a [censored]!" I mean, I am her father after all (basically).

That's the thing about aesthetics. It's completely subjective and can never be wrong. You may not like it, but that doesn't make it wrong.

No one. I was being sarcastic.

How about http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/fallout/images/d/d1/Fo4Becky_Fallon.png/revision/latest?cb=20151128125217

She looks like she's lived a long and hard life....look at those cheekbones..

No drugs for me!

As I said in the same post, shoddy doesn't mean attractive. It just means devoid of any sort of physical character. Their VO's are pretty interesting for the most part. If you look at the male characters I linked, they all have something about them that makes them physically unique.

That's not to say that there aren't any unique female characters.. I just find they are few and far between compared to male characters.

http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/fallout/images/7/7d/FO4_-_Glory.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20151122210236 would be my example of a female NPC with a lot character. The same with http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/fallout/images/6/62/Bobbi_No-Nose.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20151212211330

Yeah because most teenage and middle aged men want to see realistic women. In real life at least in the USA most women in thier 30s and 40s are quite large and would not be wearing what Piper and Cait are wearing. There is NOTHING wrong with that but the majority of gamers prefer a fantasy girl that is unrealistic and super sixualized. (just like women watch 50 shades of Gray and read love novels about guys that aren't real in reality). Just saying...

Maybe it is just me but a sixy toned women in a tight outfit is a plus. Underworld was amazing due to Kate Beckinsale the plot was meh.

I don't agree with OP about Beth having an ugly women problem. I think it's pretty clear that Beth tries to represent to real-world beauty standards rather than Hollywood's. However I do agree with Mikedzines about the lack of distinctiveness and character with the female faces. I don't they were fully neglected, but I can see what he means about the male characters being more interesting and distinctive. For example, Piper seemed like her appearance was a result of a design compromise and female settlers seem to have very little variation. I thought Curie's design was a good choice though.

On the other hand, look at the Bobrov brothers in Diamond City, who are incredibly lifelike and charismatic. I think Travis is really well done too, especially when seeing his disposition change during his questline. The male NPCs all have incredible character, etc. etc.

I always put hot chicks in my Beth games, but I'm fine with letting mods take care of that and prefer that Beth sticks with what's realistic. They sell games fine while adhering to their own principals instead of giving into market trends. More power to them.

Try moving to Portland OR. Sure we've got our share of fatties, but most of the women are in shape and dress a lot like Piper or Cait . I don't think most guys want a bunch of skanks around.

Dez is wrinkly, she's a chain smoker

I almost forgot that she was an elderly. She doesn't really look that old, I'm presuming she is around her late 50s. Hard life? Her whole sales pitch makes her appear as though she is spun from the same thread as the Latimers and the Codmans.

Super sixy women in a post apoc setting, after a nuclear bomb goes off and mutates everything is ridiculous. And all the guys are ugly too btw.

The whole premise is ridiculous.... But it is awesome. Why make ugly mutated women? I say put in the girls like witcher 3.

No thank you. The Witcher series totally alienates women. I hate their game world.

Yes, but you have to be unreasonable to do so.

I assume you are a woman? I thought the witcher handled Triss and Ciri great; they were beautiful strong women who could handle themselves. Yes I don't like the prosttutes in that game and Yen was a bit nuts but some of the females were great.

Watch any movie or show... The protagonist is 9/10 a good looking person. Nothing wrong with that. If I want to see mutated crazy looking post apocalyptic women I will just run across the street to Walmart.

Okay, Fallout won't hold up in comparison to a game that uses custom models for each individual face like the Witcher. But I said this game has the best facegen I've seen in a game so far, where all of the NPCs use the same facial modeling system we get to use at chargen to customize our character's appearance. You're always going to have to sacrifice a little bit of those extra touches if the game uses a one-size-fits-all facegen for every NPC, but it's also a really efficient way to make hundreds of good-looking NPCs and give the player a lot of options to customize their own appearance.

Bethesda definitely doesn't use it just to make "realistic" looking characters. Everything's just a little more stylized in this game.

I have no problem with their faces, but I hate their table looking butts. Nothing like the Trailer.

You want women to be scenery instead of people.

Thank goodness Bethesda doesn't seem to share his view.

I like they keep the world rough, and more fitting of post apoc.

I don't feel like Fallout needs this

it has always been a trademark of Witcher and we shouldn't copy too much from other games, like you see on the dialogue ^^

Bethesda should keep working on their strengths, instead of adding more stuff from other games

having beautiful women everywhere in the Fallout universe would be totally misplaced

Yeah, I expect all the women in my wasteland to be stunning.

Triss is well done atleast, Yenner aswell. Ciri on the other hand? So much mascara and running in high heels and she is a Witcheress? That made me cringe, more than once.