Yep, agree. Was the first thing I mentioned in the "new screens" thread when the IGN interview went up. Keeping fingers crossed they are placeholders and we end up with awesome hair with physics. Not holding my breath though on that last part. :blush:

yeah dude, i'm sorry but i agree 100%. the hair is terrible.

I think so far we haven't seen enough hair to judge it completely. Don't forget they have like another 8 or so months before release. I'm guessing hair is somewhere near the bottom of their overall agenda right now. I'm hoping that, when/if we see the showcase videos for E3, we'll get a better chance to look then. As of now, we've only just seen the first screenshots and the very first ever trailer. It's looking amazing, but it is still only the shell of what's to come in November. Personally I think the hair will get better, when they get round to tweaking it. For now, we'll just wait and see.

I agree we haven't seen enough of the hair, yet. From what we have seen, though, I've seen far better in Oblivion from the modding community.

As a matter of fact, it rather reminds me of my first amateurish attempt at creating hair. It didn't turn out that well.

http://i.imgur.com/Kvl64.png
http://images.encyclopediadramatica.com/images/5/59/Adoring.jpg
http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/rpg/elderscrollsvskyrim/images/0/7/?full_size=1

I'm not even going to dig up 1996 quality hair because I'm sure you understand how stupid your comment is already

Here is my prior post again, for 'discussion'

Well aside from the barmaid they've been fairly careful not to actually show any hair (first I've seen slug head guy lol). The one showing the back of the PC in the cave from the IGN article though the hair coming out from under the helmet does look really bad. I have faith they'll fix it, they have a lot of time left, just not that they will go all out like I want them too. Trying to get characters with long hair always really bothers me because it always clips through everything because they are just big colored sheets of cardboard pasted on the characters head. :tongue:

I suppose if we have to settle for hair that is rigged to the skeleton that is at least an improvement, kinda.

Yeah, that's what really blows my mind. We've seen some really quality work in terms of aesthetics from modders, I wish Bethesda would hire more of them. >.<

Skyrim's hair is way better than that. Thanks for posting those.

But so far, Skyrim's hair does not look as good as http://pnmedia.gamespy.com/planetelderscrolls.gamespy.com/fms/images/oblivionmods/1011/1148296443_fullres.jpg

I can't see any issues with the helmeted picture. The hair is more defined and textured than previous installments. Sure it's a tad rigid, but that's to be expected (how many games do you know of that have hair physics that aren't fighting games with a ton of unused system power to run it). Anyway, maybe the fact that they're avoiding showing hair means they are trying to improve it.

Yes, because in Skyrim, everyone has a bottle of conditioner and wash their hair daily, not to mention straighten it and blowdry it.

You're in a rugged landscape. Your armor is rugged. Japanese anime crap would look out of place.

OMG that [censored] looks absolutely ridiculous!

Im fine with shoddy hair, but that is just plain... anime

That looks average to me.

I've never considered Ren's hair to be anime crap. And since it was released, it was the standard against which all other hair mods were measured because of the quality of the work. Skyrim's doesn't measure up.

Look at that hair then look at the whole theme of Skyrim.

They don't match.

Doesn't look that great. Sorry.

I agree, they don't "match", but that's the point Mith is trying to get across. It's the quality of the work, the poly count, etc. It looks 100x better. You could take that style and make it "rugged" enough, and it'd look better than what we've seen out of skyrim.

Yeah it isn't just about pure quality... some people don't understand.

That said Ren's hair is very good...

It looks good, but it's not realistic. Skyrim doesn't have shampoo and conditioner, and beauty salons.

Here is my latest OB character: http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/1082/headpic.jpg

Note I'm still not really using long hair though, hate the clipping. :pinch:

It does look completely ridiculous, I agree. Question: Who on earth has hair like that outside of Japanese Anime cartoons? Answer: No one.

Wha?

Agreed, I'm not condemning BGS or anything. I just want it to look better than it does. Mostly I want cloth and hair physics. :celebration:

Without that even mod'ed hair will only be good as they can make it within the constraints of the engine.

I'll file this right under "cannot be unseen"....now i know this will bother me if it makes it through till november