So what if the Player characters "Driver" is, unless you go to WWW. Forbidden Fallout Four Mods . XXX and install there extra naughty mods Im Fairly sure that non of the followers will knock you down and [censored] you. I suspect if it comes up in conversation you can just go not interested in that and poop problem solved

This, although I did find that things got creepy in that mod but that may have been a mod conflict.(Seriously corpses and bats everywhere in that house?)

Eh? I honestly don't think Bethesda knows the meaning of words like "details" and "subtlety". Just compare the world of F3 and FNV.

I agree with everything else you said though.

if so jokes on them, no body, straight or gay, like bi people. it probably actually a player freedom thing which I prefer just so I can romance whoever I what without worry about it, though I will make a character for that romance if I like the character enough. not very pc I'll admit but I stoppped worry about that years ago.

it be cool if they'd actually interacted... at all.

~shrug~ If the alternative to this undeniably lazy approach is 'everyone is straight!' then I'll take it. Hopefully it'll be a wee bit more fleshed out than Skyrim where your spouse just avoids gender pronouns/identifications around you and someone actually goes 'wait, weren't you married to a woman/man before?' and you can explain.

As mentioned, it's likely just a player freedom thing. And calling them "bisixual" is just a quicky shorthand way of saying that whichever six you pick for your character, all the companions will work with it. Since your character is only one six in any particular playthrough, the companions aren't necessarily bi..... they can be straight or gay (as needed) to match your character. (disclaimer: who knows, one or two of them might explicitly say they're bi in their background. Assuming there's enough conversation with any of them.)

Not a "PC" thing, just player freedom + saying "they're all bi" is quicker than saying "all the companions can be romanced regardless of main character gender".

Yeah, they aren't "bisixual". They are "playersixual"


Well, i'd give them some of "details" at least, the garden gnome and teddy bear wars, for example

This decision by Bethesda in regards to romance being possible with any human companion is exactly why fans of the original Fallout games take so mush issue with Bethesda's version of Fallout. There is no consequence to your actions, or appears to be none may be more accurate. Yes, if I play as straight then I wouldn't initiate a romance with another male NPC, and may not even be aware it is an option, but there should still be a female character in the game that is a lisbian and would have no interest in a relationship with me no matter how much we might like each other. Same is true for a gay character, there should be straight NPCs that will not carry on a romance with you. It doesn't have to be about bigotry, just based on reality of attraction.

Regardless of how hard we may need to work to romance an NPC, there should be some that just flat won't do it because you do not line up with their sixual preference. Just like there should be NPCs that will not want to be with you depending on what faction you help, and where the sympathies of the NPC lie in regards to the faction they favor.

Yes we play the games for escapism, but that escapism can be tainted when the actions of the NPCs conflict with the actions of the PC and the choices you elect to make in the game. Giving me something I just flat can't do because I made a choice about something only encourages me to play the game again and make different choices. I will still buy the game, and enjoy it, but I can still disagree about a feature that strikes me as not being a good one on the part of the developer.

Of course, but you may go blind

I will marry Codsworth. End of story.

I love f1 and f2 and have played them many many many times.

You are wrong. I love f3 and what bethesda has done with fallout.

F4 looks to be the best game ever made. So far it is new vegas or f3.

You haven't even played the game yet. If you're gonna hate something before you try it at least have the good sense to kow you have no valid right to complain.

I suspect (based on my experience with previous Beth games) that you're expecting too much from the NPC companions. This isn't going to be a Bioware game, where you get to spend a lot of linear-plot time with a small group of people, learning lots about them/getting to know them/etc. It's a Beth "walking simulator", where the presence or absence of companions isn't guaranteed at any point, so it's not like they can weave all those characters into the narrative enough to give them a connection.

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Honestly, given the amazing "romance" system in Skyrim, I'm surprised people are expending this much thought and time pondering FO4's. I'm really not expecting anything from it at all. Definitely nothing close to Bioware's frequently-criticized-for-how-shallow-they-are methods.

I have never played F1 or F2, only F3 and NV. I love the series from Bethesda, and did not say original fans could not or did not. My point was that fans of the originals that do complain do so about just this type of thing. The lack of a real consequence for a choice. I would welcome it, and still love the game.

I do not expect an in-depth exploration of every facet of every NPC that can be a companion, just that there should be some you can romance based on sixual orientation, and some you can't. That seems pretty simple. Choice and consequence. And as Bethesda games are really the only ones I play, I can make comments about what I hope for, even if I realize I may not get it.

Lol bioware.

Now i liked dragon age inquisition. Loved kotor.

But the idea that their writing is better than bethesdas is just silly. I mean how shallow arent biowares npcs?

The reason bioware lost the king of rpgs title is because they are stuck.

They know bethesda does everything better and inquisition tried to copy but failed.

Is this really about something not making sense or is it about "something" else in the proposed romance scenarios?

Methinks the OP doth (vaguely) protest too much.

Eh. I see them as different style games that scratch different itches for me. Like 'em both.

And regardless of your opinions on quality, it's still a basic fact that in Bioware's more-linear party-based games, you get to spend a lot of narrative time with a small group of companions, allowing them to be more fleshed-out & allowing you to get to know them more, than you can with Bethesda's cardboard-cutout talking mules.

(and even with that, many people criticize Bioware's romances as shallow/etc. Which is why I don't expect anything from Beth making "romances" that'll have to be lightyears more shallow.)

So you meant to say Obsidian.

You're a dirty robosixual deviant.

Seriously, though: I've played a few games here and there that included 'romance' and they handled it awfully. Fable, Skyrim, Pong...

Are video games even a decent way to recreate the experience? Can it be done? Should it?

Video games help me get my trespassing-killing-making money-world saving urges out of my system, but I don't really want to get romance out of my system.

Bethesda's best attempt at romance wasn't even a romance option..serana.

Seriously though if they brought all companions up to par or far better than serana we will have a good experience im sure.

Also, is Fallout really the right setting for flowers and chocolates?

(Options, I know. I'm just asking; I don't play with companions unless a game makes me or I need a magic dog to fetch things out of locked containers or near crashed saucers before I want to trigger a DLC)

Was that the vampire girl? I thought the family stuff was overdone in that DLC but I'll admit I thought she was very well written. Very engaging character.

This is [censored] hilarius. Nothing in New Vegas was subtle. You got Ghouls on rockets, some many nukes, and god knows what. Fallout 3 was more subtle in ita far more grounded wasteland (Besides Zeta of course)

From what I've read and perhaps I've read between the lines a bit, I get the feeling that our companions must "like" us in order for romance to become possible. I'm unsure what them liking you will entail. Based upon your stats or answers to their questions? Based upon what you have done in the game? What you have accomplished? I'm not sure.

But I think that every companion will not develop into a romance and that the ones that do will differ from one game to the next dependent upon what you have and have not done in game. I look forward to knowing more about this. And of course, I hope that our character can say, "I think it will be better if we just remain friends" and you do.

That said, I rarely use a companion in games.