Not yet known.


IDK but I want to know more about the game first.


So what even if we can't? It's not realistic if everyone is willing to talk to you.

This whining is pervasive and annoying. Really, this forum approaches self-parody in it's self-important sense of undeserved entitlement. Stop chanting "they changed it now it svcks" and either offer actual criticism beyond "it's not what they did before therefore it's a generic hack-and-slash" or just shut the hell up because all you're doing is wasting bandwidth. Really, if someone was to make a parody thread right now that said in the OP nothing but "they changed it, it's not Morrowind this game is just a stupid standard fantasy cliche-bomb with generic gameplay," you wouldn't be able to tell it was a parody because that is how awful this forum section has become.

Shame on you all.

No one because they wouldn't use the word amazing. But there would be quite a few people who wouldn't like a return to Morrowind. Games evolve.

I would. If we still had the terrible graphics, easily exploitable system, horrible combat, factions that were honestly not that deep, practically no draw distance, dreadful animations and so on. I can promise you it would be a flop. The few thousand on this forum that are morrowindites would buy it, but in this day and age it takes millions of sales for a game to make any money. Don't get me wrong, Morrowind is my favorite of the series but it has serious flaws which Oblivion improved upon. I for one don't want to see the same old thing every time. Might as well just keep playing Morrowind if it's the same game.

Why is it so tough for people to reserve judgment until they play the actual game?

You're right; the truth hurts.

Skyrim will be better than Morrowind.

Oblivion made MANY improvements over Morrowind. (This is true, Morrowind was NOT perfect.) Skyrim will make many improvements as well.

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We'd also have to start wondering how it'd take them 4+ years to release a game they've already released.

my prediction is that Morrowind fan boys will still wine after the release of the game wile we Oblivion fan boys will love it.

Because we are in the internet age my friend. Where everyone has ADHD and demands instant satisfaction. Patience is a myth in this world... Sadly.

I do prefer Morrowind to Oblivion : the main reason for that is (as usual) the atmosphere - landscape and culture. What else ? The "my sword hit you but you don't hurt" combat system ? The magic I never got fully the hang of ? "Oh crap I screwed up my char by picking a useless skill now levelling is a pain in the ass?" The fetch/kill quests ?

As for Skyrim, I doubt we have to worry about mechanics. That leaves the rest, what made Morrowind special for some people. From what we've seen, when it comes to memorable landscape, the deal is pretty much sealed ; that leaves Lore and society, which have been little discussed (bar the uniqueness of clans and the local economy, which sounds promising).

From my point of view, worst case scenario, we get a visually stunning, even more fun to play Oblivion. Best case scenario, we get a game that makes us all forget the two that came before. ^_^ Definitely not worried.

Fable = they continued to "streamline" the game aka dumbed it down, make it easer, sale more copies. THAT is what STREAMLINING is Dumbing down an aspect. EvE online continue's to add more content and evolve the game without dumbing it down; NO one would dare say eve online dumbs anything down that game is probably the deepest game ever created.

Then there are games like morrowind were they are intuitive, easy to learn but extremely deep and hard to master; What beth seems to be doing to skyrim is not this formula but the fable formula which is; easy to learn, easy to master, shallow and not to deep. I prefer the Morrowind approach myself add replay value.

I dont mind new things and changes as long as depth and complexity are kept, when things become to easy wtf is the point.

Age of Decadence is coming out one of these days. That's a 'real RPG' if ever I saw one... something tells me it's gonna be great, too.

That's beyond offensive to Bioware they make true RPG's last I checked

seen this type of thread a thousand times every website I go to if its a game series theirs always a thread like this complaining about how its removing features,dumbing down etc (except neoseeker) not just for RPG's but all game series in general and in the end the people who do complain end up cuddling their new game (except Mafia II that was disgraceful).

someone mentioned the removal of realistic transportation look at Oblivion it had fast travel but it had the option of realism aka walking,running and riding a horse, next complaint removal of attributes hasn't been confirmed, removal of spellmaking I'm weary about foreign magazines unless the people who are making the game speak the same language theirs going to be mistakes.

Streamline =/= Dumb Down.

Lemme pull out Fallout New Vegas. The companion system was HORRID in Fallout 3. By your logic, its system was full of depth, WRONG. Obsidian streamlined companions by making a companion wheel.

People keep saying that Morrowind was a heavily flawed game and Oblivion improved up on every aspect in regards to gameplay.
What about the things Oblivion made worse? You say that Morrowind fans are hard headed, what about Oblivion fans? You people cannot admit that Oblivion did certain things wrong, and that Morrowind did it better.
Morrowind is not a perfect game. Oblivion is not a perfect game.
Good thing this topic is about Skyrim, and how it's becoming Fable 4.

Going to have to disagree. For most people Morrowind was not easy to learn at all. I know people who just quit in the first hour because they thought it was a terrible game. And they would be right. For the first few levels if you don't understand the game mechanics already Morrowind isn't that fun. Oblivion took it too far in the opposing direction and made the game way to easy. In Skyrim I think we will hit the perfect balance.

Uuhhh dialogues. Lines were funnier, and I so prefered to read at my own pace rather than having a close-up of a NPC (so glad Skyrim drops it) that would slowwwwwwwly read the lines in an uninspired tone, while emotions passed through the face like the drift of continents. [/utterly personal opinion]

My friends these are some slippery slopes I am reading about...

Ofcourse they can. You'd have trouble finding one person who liked level scaling in Oblivion. From there on, the main difference is.. I don't think Oblivion fans pretend Oblivion's way is the only TES way. Who knows? Maybe that will change when Skyrim is released.

I completely agree with that statement. I loved reading text in Morrowind over listening to the same voice actor for 9 races in Oblivion. The dialogue in Morrowind was surely more entertaining.

But, I digress, this thread isn't meant to bash either Morrowind or Oblivion. We're talking about Skyrim, and how it's being mainstreamed to the point of it not being TES.

Not one person in this thread said "every aspect" or even implied it. Way to generalize.

I'm sorry, but what? Nobody ever said Oblivion was better in EVERY aspect of gameplay, just in many aspects. You keep generalizing and exaggerating, stop that. And don't give me that "Oblivion fan" stuff. My favorite game is Daggerfall, and I personally find Morrowind to not be all you seem to hype it up to be. Yes, Oblivion made mistakes, like level scaling, we already determined that. It was still a great game and improved gameplay bounds over Morrowind.

No, Morrowind wasn't terrible, I thought it was a great game with good story and plot, but once again, don't treat it like God's gift to the world with only a single blemish.

EDIT: Double ninja'd :ninja: