Well, I've still one trophy to go (Mill Worker), but what I experienced in Operation Anchorage was nearly hilarious, after the initial quest, when you get your strike team, the DLC was unplayable, it crashed three times in half an hour!!! Till I deleted the whole game data (again!), after that it was unplayable, cause it installed the gama data the whole time while I was playing and you couldn't move while it was loading from the disc, but it didn't freeze for the rest of the whole DLC (I was really worried about the final battle...), when I exited the simulation, surprise, surprise, I got a quest glitch where the Outcasts were suddenly attacking me, so I tried to reload the autosave and the game crashed :violin:

After OA, the Wasteland was a mess, too, sudden crashes here and then, now even without the usual symptoms which announce a crash in the next minutes, it just froze, I got myself the Level 30 Trophies with deleting the Game Data (again....) and it nearly worked upon two hours in the capital wasteland.. Since I surprisingly didn't encounter any crash in The Pitt I hope that getting the Mill Worker - Trophy will be easier crashwise... After getting the 100% I'm really sure of one thing, I won't touch that game again until the problem is fixed and I won't recommend it to any of my friends (still talked one out of it.)

So it's up to you Bethesta, in this forum is more then enough information which should help you to pinpoint the problems..

If they had humans test the GOTY version, surely someone would have said its performance was lackluster to say the least.
I guess they were more concerned about the release date than the quality of the product--which pisses me off.
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Yeah, that's the insanity of it. I'm not even a programer and I can tell the games messed up. And because nobody from Bethesda is bothering to address the problems we've been having I bet the next game will be just as bad.

We had the same situation happen at EA. We let the forums go for months before we finally decided to throw the developers into the ring. By talking with the customers on the forums, everything went from anti-EA to pro-EA. The customers went nearly 6-months without a patch, but when they got it, the loved it. In the meantime they felt like they were on the development team, which took the edge off.

I really recommend this for Bethesda. The sad aged cliche of "We don't talk about up coming releases, because we heard that was a good idea." just doesn't fly in the modern 21st century customer based. I should know, I was in charge of the intake.

This a thousand times.
This secrecy has no place in the age of the internet. It might have worked back in the days of the 16/32 bit era but games weren't as buggy as they are now.
I mean, it's more damaging to a company to have a whole disgruntled userbase and the rumormill running than admitting that you messed up and are working on something.

I agree - that's how it should be done. Because at the moment so many people are feeling really alienated and I don't think things will cool down until something is done to fix the problems.

I have registered solely to vent my anger like many others on here at the completely ridiculous situation us PS3 users now find ourselves in.

Just to start and dispel one notion ive seen on here, i had an 80hr + lvl 20 vanilla save game which started to glitch and freeze when playing GOTY and point lookout, i then started all over again....yes i love the game that much that i was prepared to write off 80hrs of my life and do it all again just to experience the DLC, i played all the main quests and most of the side quests without issue then as soon as i go to point lookout the game freezes and crashes again, now even when im in the wasteland the game freezes, so this is quite clearly a problem specifically with the DLC which as soon as you go near it somehow breaks the entire game. So be warned guys a new game save solely done on GOTY edition will not help either.

I can't believe there has been no response on these forums at all from bethesda, this is an issue affecting all PS3 users, go on bethesda put in GOTY edition on your PS3 then take a trip to point lookout and you will see for yourself as you should have done during testing that you have somehow managed to take a perfectly working vanilla version and completely break it, whilst charging us $50 for the pleasure!.

Im seriously for the first time thinking about getting rid of my PS3 for an Xbox, i dont like microsoft and wtf is up with paying to play online, hellllooooo we all pay our bluddy broadband fees aint that enough!, but if games studios can't even do what there paid to do and develop on an actual next gen piece of hardware then what choice do we the consumer have?, i really have never been so angry in a long long time, why is there no response from bethesda?, i bet if they are unable to release working DLC on PS3 then they are probably completely incapable of patching it but don't want to admit to that. grrrrrrrrrrrrr

There has been some reports of a method that seems to significantly decrease problems. I'd urge you to try it if you're at the point where you'd be thinking about spending 200 plus dollars, minus any trade-in values, to play the game again. This method is linked here, and it's definitely cheaper. http://www.gamesas.com/bgsforums/index.php?showtopic=1053551

Thanks for responding alefin but i would echo what this person says in response to that thread:

How come that my game keeps freezing when i see an npc or enter vats, since i've turned my ps3 on and off several times, restarted the game loaded the same file and freezes again...
That doesn't really make your theory possible i think, unless you can explain what's different in what i am doing...
I turned off my ps3 between each load since i HAD to turn it off since the game completely froze...
Can you please explain?

(sorry for my bad English)

I have started a completely new game as i stated in my previous post, and the original poster on that link you gave me basically says all he can think of is start a new game in reply to the person above.

Im going to try the L2 and R2 and square thing tonight but there is a more fundamental problem here that no amount of user intervention is gonna resolve, if ever....ever ever ever......a game needed a patch its this sorry mess.

There's no doubt that a patch is needed, however I'm merely suggesting that you try everything you can before you spend more money.

I suppose the grass is greener on the other side, but there's no guarantee either that you won't experience problems on another version of this game. All three versions experience a majority of the the same types of bugs.

Does anyone else think it's hilarious that the moderators keep locking threads because they claim we don't ask clear and concise questions, and yet this thread couldn't be MORE clear?

I put it to you moderators, a clear and concise friendly question has been asked, please answer the question...

"Will there be a patch for PS3 GOTY?"

I'm not sure what you mean. If this thread is clear and concise, then there's no reason to lock and it's not, right? And the moderators don't know anything. They're not even paid. Only Gstaff knows anything, and there's no doubt he'd post something if there was anything worth posting.

I hope you got some bottlecaps for your reply.

What does that mean?

You're defending bad behavior.

I'm not sure what you mean. All I said was that they don't know anything. If you really want an answer you're better off messaging Gstaff and getting a "non-answer." Why do you think no one has replied to this thread? There's no news. Of course, I'd like an answer. But I've been here long enough to know that's not how it works. gamesas never give us anything substantial. All the other patches when they were released had no prior information about when or what they would fix.

When the game first came out there was a ton of threads asking about patches. Still nothing then.

That's why the Canada issue is somewhat strange, although it hasn't been released yet and there's been no news for two weeks.

I'm not defending anything. These are just facts.

You speak the truth. I'm just trying to plug up one side of the two sided mouth that seems to plague the forum posts. Either it's pointless to have a forum, or it has a purpose. Not addressing issues that are extremely painful is just bad business, but of course the cliche "mums the word" is prevailing. No one has authority to solve problems, which is so typical of all industries these days.

Consequently, every Sitcom has the same formula...take a piece of truth, hide it, allow it to cause damage for 18 minutes, then reveal that truth, repair the damage done, and hopefully learn something along the way.

We need this forum NOT to be a sitcom. We need someone to think for themselves and lobby inside Bethesda to reveal a strategy for relief for FO3 GOTY. Clearly we're all on Bethesda's side. They need to take advantage of this truth instead of disregarding it day after day.

They can mention a patch without admitting guilt.

I agree, but in theory, these are "community forums" and "unofficial support." Probably 99% of the help and advice is all from other forum members; people that also experience the same problems. Officially, even if it's pretty unhelpful, people need to send in support forms to tech support, call them, or send emails to support@gamesas.com. At least, there will be another record of it there than just in these forums. I rarely ever see any developers here, and Gstaff is the only one that relays anything to them.

Still nothing?

Nothing.

as i mentioned at another time, they are NOT going to release anything, didn't they sadi the same for french version.
Plus if they can release a beat game and beta dlc why not a beta patch to accompany this. they are just buying time so that people will stop baggering them and thats all. it is all a pr stunt and nothing else.

the problem being that eb only give $8 as tiv otherwise i would have traded it in

pathetic of bethesda if you ask me

really disappointed and as i meanitoned earlier never again am i going to buy anything from bethesda or zennimax (sp?)

I haven't played the game in a long time, probably around last December, but to deal with any glitches or freezes, I basically saved every five to ten minutes. It was pretty not fun, lol.

gamesas can laugh all they want, but, like you, they've got the last of my money. I have no opinion on the legal action, since the end result will be the same. If they have to do something to appease consumers or if they come away clean, I'm still finished with them for years to come. That might sound pretty harsh, but gamesas would have to develop maybe five games that are squeaky clean to regain my business.

All I do now is try to help people on these forums bend over backwards to play the game, and hopefully more will come to understand what gamesas is trying to sell us.

Hi there - I just thought I'd join the fun!!

I finished the PS3 GOTY version yesterday. I basically had to quit-and-restart the game or fully reboot the PS3 every hour or two (if I was lucky). It was pretty frustrating, and definitely hurt my enjoyment of the game.

It's ridiculous that Bethesda's programmers haven't gotten something as basic as MEMORY MANAGEMENT figured out. Maybe next time they can spend a few extra dollars and hire experienced programmers... :rolleyes:

I played the original-release version over 200 hours with only a couple of freezes (I know other people who weren't quite so lucky), which isn't great, but certainly tolerable.

What's funny is that the PS3 version of the DLC was delayed for months, and THIS is what we get for our patience!

Anyway, since every PS3 user who's bought this has had basically these same problems which have made the game either frustrating or completely unplayable, I think some sort of legal action could be in order...

Bethesda has proven itself to be quite lazy.

They're just ignorant.

It's funny how they can update their blog regularly but pretend like this place doesn't exist, it's a joke. I think I'll take the Fallout 3 and Fallout New Vegas pages off my website too, and just not have anything to do with this mess unless they get it sorted.

Carry on being ignorant Bethesda staff, and don't worry about it coming full circle on you either, because it definitely will. There's no need to wonder about that one at all.

Adios

Yah there is no way I will be pre-ordering Fallout: New Vegas. If Bethesda can approve the crappy coding that went into Fallout 3, I'm sure New Vegas will be just as bad (let's ride the gravy train that is Fallout).