Better Clothes 1.1 errors and crashing.

Post » Mon May 16, 2011 11:38 pm

Heres the text in warnings.txt.
Not able to find Foot part in BC_shoes_common_03.
Not able to find Upper Arm part in BC_common_shirt_03_b_Fua.

The only strange thing is that crashing ONLY happens in Solsteim on loading screen . After googling i singled the culprit to Better Clothes and no other mod i have would conflict. So is there a fix or a patch? And why does it happen only in Solsteim?? It worked fine without problems on the mainland or Mournhold. Help please!

[Game Files]GameFile0=Better Heads.esmGameFile1=Bloodmoon.esmGameFile2=Book Rotate.esmGameFile3=Morrowind Patch v1.6.4.esmGameFile4=Morrowind.esmGameFile5=Tribunal.esmGameFile6=Abu Manor.espGameFile7=ACD_PracticeDummy.espGameFile8=adamantiumarmor.espGameFile9=almalexia armor.espGameFile10=Animated Morrowind 1.0.espGameFile11=Animated Morrowind II.espGameFile12=AreaEffectArrows.espGameFile13=BAR_PackRat_upgrade.espGameFile14=bcsounds.espGameFile15=Better Bodies.espGameFile16=Better Clothes_v1.1.espGameFile17=Book Jackets - Bloodmoon - BookRotate.espGameFile18=Book Jackets - Morrowind - BookRotate.espGameFile19=Book Jackets - Tribunal - BookRotate.espGameFile20=Book Rotate - Bloodmoon v5.3.espGameFile21=Book Rotate - Tribunal v5.3.espGameFile22=db_attack_fixed.espGameFile23=EBQ_Artifact.espGameFile24=emma_bret_heads3.espGameFile25=entertainers.espGameFile26=Excusemanerevarine.espGameFile27=Faster Walk.espGameFile28=JWR_Dwemer_L_Lefty.espGameFile29=kiasyd_magick_regenerator_1.4.espGameFile30=KS_Ren's_Oblivion_Hair_for_Morrowind_1.0.espGameFile31=LadyD_Reduced_Commentary.espGameFile32=LeftGloves_Addon_v2.espGameFile33=levX.esp <---- this is just an uber levitation spellGameFile34=master_index.espGameFile35=mel_teleportPlugin_1_3.espGameFile36=Morrowind Narcissism.espGameFile37=New Argonian Bodies - Mature.espGameFile38=New Khajiit Bodies - Mature.espGameFile39=Protective Guards.espGameFile40=Psy_VGR_Armour.espGameFile41=ring_teleport cost_Tealpanda.espGameFile42=Siege at Firemoth.espGameFile43=The Imperial Legion Badge.espGameFile44=transportMH.espGameFile45=Undress For Me.espGameFile46=VA_OrdReplace_closedhelm1.0.esp

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Robyn Howlett
 
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Post » Tue May 17, 2011 12:43 am

Post modlist, plz :)
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Dean Ashcroft
 
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Post » Tue May 17, 2011 11:08 am

OK i got an interesting discovery... Better clothes is not the culprit. But ANY mod loaded after the 37th mod on the list causes this crash. which means from my data launcher list any of the 5 esps left that loaded would cause my game to crash... WTH? Anyone know a fix for this? Theres no conflict, just that now i cant load any more mods or my game crashes... how irritating.
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Post » Tue May 17, 2011 5:22 am

You need http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1167004-relz-mlox-a-tool-for-anolyzing-and-sorting-your-load-order/ to have a correct loadorder, because that list in the OP is not loadorder is only a list of installed mods. Another tool that you can use is Wrye Mash Stand Alone (my WMSA sig) to repair your saves in the Saves tab. After that please post your current loadorder from mlox (right click to copy) and the contents of warnings.txt found in the Morrowind folder here. :)


btw... welcome to the forum. :tes:
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Post » Mon May 16, 2011 11:34 pm

Hi!! :D

_001_ Morrowind.esm_002_ Tribunal.esm_003_ Bloodmoon.esm_004_ Morrowind Patch v1.6.4.esm_005_ Better Heads.esm_006_ Book Rotate.esm_007_ LadyD_Reduced_Commentary.esp_008_ entertainers.esp_009_ adamantiumarmor.esp_010_ EBQ_Artifact.esp_011_ Siege at Firemoth.esp_012_ BAR_PackRat_upgrade.esp_013_ VA_OrdReplace_closedhelm1.0.esp_014_ Book Rotate - Tribunal v5.3.esp_015_ Book Rotate - Bloodmoon v5.3.esp_016_ Book Jackets - Morrowind - BookRotate.esp_017_ Book Jackets - Tribunal - BookRotate.esp_018_ Book Jackets - Bloodmoon - BookRotate.esp_019_ Better Clothes_v1.1.esp_020_ KS_Ren's_Oblivion_Hair_for_Morrowind_1.0.esp_021_ kiasyd_magick_regenerator_1.4.esp_022_ Undress For Me.esp_023_ Morrowind Narcissism.esp_024_ JWR_Dwemer_L_Lefty.esp_025_ New Argonian Bodies - Mature.esp_026_ New Khajiit Bodies - Mature.esp_027_ levX.esp_028_ almalexia armor.esp_029_ LeftGloves_Addon_v2.esp_030_ db_attack_fixed.esp_031_ transportMH.esp_032_ ring_teleport cost_Tealpanda.esp_033_ Psy_VGR_Armour.esp_034_ Abu Manor.esp_035_ AreaEffectArrows.esp_036_ bcsounds.esp_037_ Better Bodies.esp_038_ emma_bret_heads3.esp_039_ The Imperial Legion Badge.esp_040_ master_index.esp_041_ mel_teleportPlugin_1_3.esp_042_ Protective Guards.esp_043_ Excusemanerevarine.esp_044_ Animated Morrowind 1.0.esp_045_ Animated Morrowind II.esp_046_ ACD_PracticeDummy.esp_047_ Faster Walk.esp


Ok i loaded each mod 1 by 1 starting from Better Clothes and found out that any of the mods from 43-47 will crash the game and give this single error:
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Not able to find Upper Arm part in BC_common_shirt_03_b_Fua.

Also sometimes the other error is Not able to find foot part in bc_common_shoes_03. I am saved right next to the beast stone in Solsteim. With the same load order and saved in mournhold or khuul the error does not pop up and does not crash the game. It seems to only crash when i am saved in Solsteim. Wierd huh?

EDIT: OH and btw i am using Wyre's standalone to repair all on my save. It doesnt do anything to solve the crash. My saves are clean.
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Post » Tue May 17, 2011 1:33 am

You need to download these two mods and install the last one. If you need to search for mods just use http://search.yacoby.net/. :)

http://planetelderscrolls.gamespy.com/View.php?view=Mods.Detail&id=8737
http://planetelderscrolls.gamespy.com/View.php?view=Mods.Detail&id=8931

When you're downloading these mods just make sure you grab everything on the Better Clothes link, because it seems to be an update to that mod earlier this year. ;)
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Post » Tue May 17, 2011 10:48 am

You need to download these two mods and install the last one. If you need to search for mods just use http://search.yacoby.net/. :)

http://planetelderscrolls.gamespy.com/View.php?view=Mods.Detail&id=8737
http://planetelderscrolls.gamespy.com/View.php?view=Mods.Detail&id=8931

When you're downloading these mods just make sure you grab everything on the Better Clothes link, because it seems to be an update to that mod earlier this year. ;)


Hmm... it's not that Better Clothes was updated or not. It's just that anything that loads after the 42nd item crashes the game and gives that error message. An esp with no changes to the game whatsoever crashes it if it is loaded after #42. With this loadorder and checked mods all the way to _042_ Protective Guards.esp, the next esp is _043_ Excusemanerevarine.esp and that only changes some dialog and it crashes the game . I cant seem find a fix to this...

EDIT: just downloaded those 2 things you asked me to. Same error message. And what i mean is anything loaded after #42 and the game will crash, even if it is a blank esp. Apparently im over the limit. What can be causing this?
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Post » Tue May 17, 2011 1:46 am

Have you install the "More Better Clothes" mod yet?

If not then do so and run http://yacoby.silgrad.com/MW/Mods/escog.htm, mlox in that order before you post the contents of both Warnings.txt & loadorder, because without that information I can't offer much help here. :)
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Post » Tue May 17, 2011 7:18 am

Your crashes have nothing to do with Better Clothes.
Any warnings like "Not able to find Foot part in BC_shoes_common_03" are totally harmless and can be ignored.

Chances are you have a corrupt Save file.
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Post » Tue May 17, 2011 1:52 am

When you're downloading these mods just make sure you grab everything on the Better Clothes link, because it seems to be an update to that mod earlier this year. ;)

That link is to version 1.1 - I have version 1.4b (beta) so there are definitely later versions out there somewhere.
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Post » Tue May 17, 2011 1:36 am

You ARE using MWSE or MGE with MWSE enabled, right?

With your new load order, have you tried unchecking _only_ Protective Guards?

With some types of crashes, like from a script, you won't see the error in the warnings log, just the messages before the crash.
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Post » Tue May 17, 2011 2:20 pm

That link is to version 1.1 - I have version 1.4b (beta) so there are definitely later versions out there somewhere.


Even Psycho Dog Studios' website only offers version 1.1. Where do you think that you found 1.4b?
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Post » Tue May 17, 2011 6:11 am

Even Psycho Dog Studios' website only offers version 1.1. Where do you think that you found 1.4b?


Readme:
Better Clothes Version Beta 1.4(SOME SHIRTS NOT COMPLETED THESE WILL BE COMPLETED IN THE NEXT VERSION)Creaters (in Alphabetical order)Calishlan (textures) shirts, pants, shoes, skirtsDereko (meshes) pants conversion, shoes (Project Coordinator)Greybeard (Physiquing) shirts (Texture Mapping assistance)Neuman (original pants)NioLiv meshes (all Skirts, Shirts) (texture mapping)Special thanks toKorana - textures 2 shoe textures common1 and common2,Sierre (original skirts)Silaria (Meshes original Shirts)*** Requirements ***-Morrowind-Better Bodies v2.1 to v2.2-A beast Replacer is also highly recommended such as  Sabregirls “BetterBodies for Beasts" or Slofs "BetterBeasts"***WHAT THIS MOD DOES ***This mod replaces ALL the ingame clothing to more realistic clothing to fit the better bodies mod. This will replace all clothing bought in stores as well as on npcs and gaurds and on your character. All of the meshes and textures have been completely redone. Because the meshes have been completely redone, as this is a "replacer", we have tried to stay as close as possible to the style of the original Morrowind clothing, so that it is still recognizable. Of course some artistic changes have been made by the individual artists where they felt it was necessary.  For those familiar with the TES Editor Better Clothes also frees up alot of "Body slots" for example: the Better Clothes pants uses only the groin body part. The original clothes used the groin, upper left leg, upper right leg, left knee, right knee, left ankle and right ankle for pants. What does that mean? Well, you'll be able to wear more combinations of existing Better Body compatible clothes that are out there. ***WHAT THIS MOD DOES NOT DO ***This mod does not replace ingame robes, the reason for this is the ingame robes never had clipping problems with Better Bodies, and there are enough robe replacers in the community, so we felt as a group that this would have been duplication.  (if you would prefer a robe replacer we would suggest using Canadian Ice’s excellent robe replacer)This mod does not replace armor.*** INSTALLATION ***Simply click the exe file and everything should install into the correct folders.*** KNOWN BUGS AND ISSUES ****None, this mod has been cleaned with testool and does not change npcs in anyway, and you should not have doubling of any kind. Mods such as Morrowind Comes Alive and other mods which add their own clothing meshes and assignments will not have their clothes replaced by this mod.CreditsSpecial thanks of course toPsychodog Studios for the BB mod where none of this would of bin possible.NeumanZenorfFarielIf you wish to ask permissions regarding usage of the contents of this mod please ask the individual artists.


I believe it was in a large compilation mod pack called TES3 Morrowind Essential Enhancements that I found a link to just Googling before I found any of the official forums etc. Other contents were MGE 3.0.2, Better Bodies, Better Heads, Better Beasts, Visual Pack v2.11+v2.2+XT, Guild Wars Music Pack etc.

ESP named Better Clothes Beta_1.4.esp dated 30/12/2005. There is no creator or other information listed in the Data File load screen. This file though and the rest of the pack contents (much incorporated as sources as per Knots' guide since many were latest versions) have worked without issues for months.

The readme for that megapack states:

-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-Info-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-Title: TES3 Morrowind Essential EnhancementsPlatform: PCDate: July 21st, 2006Size: 197MB-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-Contact Info-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-Site: www.stevemv.com-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-Credits-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-www.elderscrolls.complanetelderscrolls.gamespy.comwww.mwmythicmods.com


I can't now recall or access the exact URL I found the pack uploaded, but this information will probably be enough for anyone interested to recreate my Google. Otherwise, since the file appears to be a mystery, I will be happy to provide it through PM to someone willing to investigate it further, since I don't really have the forensic CS skills for that.
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Post » Tue May 17, 2011 1:40 am

quoting a post over on PsyhcoDog:

"A-ha... Just noticed this in Summary to BC 1.1 "In this update the BC 1.4 shirts and pants have been altered to make them visible when worn under armor."
So looks like this version is newer than 1.4... I was puzzled with numbers then..."

I can't attest to this being truth, but its worth looking at...
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Post » Tue May 17, 2011 12:14 am

Hmm... it's not that Better Clothes was updated or not. It's just that anything that loads after the 42nd item crashes the game and gives that error message. An esp with no changes to the game whatsoever crashes it if it is loaded after #42. With this loadorder and checked mods all the way to _042_ Protective Guards.esp, the next esp is _043_ Excusemanerevarine.esp and that only changes some dialog and it crashes the game . I cant seem find a fix to this...

EDIT: just downloaded those 2 things you asked me to. Same error message. And what i mean is anything loaded after #42 and the game will crash, even if it is a blank esp. Apparently im over the limit. What can be causing this?

@resist
Your problem is more likely due to MWSE related mods than Better Clothes. Have you tried starting a new game then use the console to COE to the cell where you are currently having the issue and see if the game still crashes?

You could also try moving mel_teleportPlugin_1_3.esp & Protective Guards.esp to a different place in your load list - you can do this using Wrye Mash, but make sure to experiment with a duplicate of your save game in case it makes things worse. After moving the position of those two plugins, make sure to sync the dup save to the load list and do a repair all.


That link is to version 1.1 - I have version 1.4b (beta) so there are definitely later versions out there somewhere.

@IanB2
1.4b is an older beta version of Better Clothes - it actually preceded version 1.0. It's easily confirmed by checking the timestamps on the docs and esp against the 1.0 or 1.1 versions. And the beta release only includes one esp, whereas two esps exist in the production releases (when the option for no argonian change was introduced). -_-
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Post » Tue May 17, 2011 9:42 am

I still don't know why it happens but the problem is actually: a corrupted save. BC's error messages only appear when a crash happens, but not when other problems appear.That's odd... From what i learned on the internet by googling, the best way to avoid a corrupted save is to save at different slots. I certainly learned alot :P
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Post » Tue May 17, 2011 12:53 pm

Ok i loaded each mod 1 by 1 starting from Better Clothes and found out that any of the mods from 43-47 will crash the game and give this single error:
:
Not able to find Upper Arm part in BC_common_shirt_03_b_Fua.

Also sometimes the other error is Not able to find foot part in bc_common_shoes_03. I am saved right next to the beast stone in Solsteim. With the same load order and saved in mournhold or khuul the error does not pop up and does not crash the game. It seems to only crash when i am saved in Solsteim.

Interesting that your mod issue is only related to Solstheim. Try to move Animated 1.0.esp and Animated II.esp to be loaded just before Better Clothes v1.1.esp in your loadorder. When you have done that please post the contents of Warnings.txt here.

_044_ Animated Morrowind 1.0.esp_045_ Animated Morrowind II.esp_019_ Better Clothes_v1.1.esp

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