Is Billy Creel a paedo?

Post » Tue Nov 17, 2009 10:40 pm

Wow not this again......

No, he's not.

I also don't think that he was the one that killed her parents, but even if he was, that doesn't matter anyway.

Everyone knows Jerico was a raider, and would have killed heaps of people including little kids, but no-one bats an eye. Why should they be more suspicious just because they don't know Billy's past?

He's taking care of that child, that doesn't make him a 'pedo' or a bad person.

I think Billy being 'one of those', has the same chance of some people who think he is, are themselves.
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Steve Bates
 
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Post » Wed Nov 18, 2009 2:49 am

Honestly I think Billy is a decent guy he has too friendly of a voice to be a bad guy. (I''ve noticed the difference in the voice acting between good and bad people in this game) What Colin wrote in his terminal, in my opinion isn't true, its just an opinion with no evidence to backup Colin's claim. After all Colin does write the stuff in his terminal when he needs to blackmail somebody so he can keep his influence over Megaton. However if Billie did kill the parents, I'd imagine parents were bad people maybe abused her is what I think if Colin's claims are true, I just don't see Billie as a bad guy.
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Post » Wed Nov 18, 2009 12:33 am

Based on absolutely no evidence other than a single diary entry by a man who believes everyone is as dark and flawed as he is.


Whereas the other side of opinion is based on the obvious caring relationship between Billy and Maggie. It's more likely he took her in out of remorse and guilt for his actions.

i dont know who to side to go to
he a radier who are that sick they do that
and the other person well he not that bad
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Post » Tue Nov 17, 2009 9:35 pm

http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Billy_Creel

The Wiki Never lies!

Also,
Spoiler
He would never of told Maggie his Safe Combination
If he Adopted her for his own pleasure..
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Post » Wed Nov 18, 2009 8:01 am

Well, put it this way; would Maggie ask Billy about "having a talk about boys" is he was banging her? I mean, why would she need one then?

There's a hilarious conversation between Maggie and Billy when they are in Craterside Supply (or at least that's where I've heard it).
Maggie asks Billy something like "Billy, isn't it time we had that talk about boys now? I'm a big girl now and I think it's time."
Billy answers: "Uh, yeah... You see... Boys and girls... Uh, why don't you go ask Moira about this?"
(I can post the actual lines when I get home and get access to the GECK.)

Considering how embarrased Billy is over talking about the birds and the bees, again, I doubt he's screwing Maggie. All their conversations they have point more to a father/daughter, or at least caretaker/little girl relationship, not molester and victim.
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Post » Wed Nov 18, 2009 4:14 am

Ugh this comes up all the time and it must be my innocent girlie mind because I'd never considered this til someone mentioned it on here...

People SO look into the tone of how the actor says things etc that simply aren't there...
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Post » Wed Nov 18, 2009 12:16 am

Billy answers: "Uh, yeah... You see... Boys and girls... Uh, why don't you go ask Moira about this?"

Moira! The poor child will be ruined.


Moira: babies are made when a deathclaw hits an unexploded bomb, and it goes off. Then each one of the deathclaw's fingers wriggle free of its hand and they go off to find unsuspecting humans to inpregnate at the full moon.
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Post » Wed Nov 18, 2009 1:52 am

The thing with the Jericho comparison though - is Jericho is Jericho. Everybody knows he was a Raider and if anybody gets in his face about it they can expect some Raider-like behaviour. Steer clear is the message me thinks. He isn't ashamed of what he was, he just doesn't want to be that anymore... unless you convince him otherwise. Heh. Billy Creel on the other hand gets in your face about Maggie, and doesn't wanna talk about anything else. He brings her up, not you, but when you ask about his past it gets a little shaky around the edges, and closes up on you. Why would an open, happy-go-lucky do-gooder talk freely about saving and raising a little girl, but clam up when you delve deeper?

Accuse Jericho of something and he'd probably get right in your face and admit ithat he did it, or knock you out for accusing him if he didn't do it. Or say, "Get the eff outta my face before I tear it off and shove it down your eff'ing throat." Rather than gab about anything to anyone. I don't think Billy is doing anything untoward with Maggie... it's a video game... lol... but I do think Billy was involved with the murder of Maggie's parents. I get the same vibe Moriarty does from Billy Creel. It's a little spishus. My character couldn't give a flying Brahmin whether he is into... that... or not. Billy Creel and his story of heroics and sacrifice can take a running jump into an irradiated pool of rabid dog's blood for all my character cares. lol :lol: But me, he makes me spishus!
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Post » Wed Nov 18, 2009 6:27 am

I was undecided when I asked the question ..

However, my question was about whether he is a paedophile, meaning "attracted to kids", not "actually banging Maggie" LOL

It's possible he took her because he fancied her, but then couldn't bring himself to act on his sixual desires ....???

Either way, I've been somewhat convinced he isn't to be suspected of wrong doing. :coolvaultboy:
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Post » Wed Nov 18, 2009 3:02 am

Reasons of why Billy is not a pedo:

-Billy says "Maggie..." when you kill him.

-Billy wrote what is probably the largest story in the whole Capital Wasteland for maggie, just look inside his house for the note.

-Billy stopped drinking alcohool because of Maggie, he replaced alcoohol with a bunch of nuka but it still counts.



But I must admit that his little "Hi hi" on the end of his first dialog is a little scary...


Billy answers: "Uh, yeah... You see... Boys and girls... Uh, why don't you go ask Moira about this?"


What have you done Billy? :(
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Post » Wed Nov 18, 2009 5:42 am

Why isn't anyone accusing Lucas Simms of the same? Or better yet, Dave?

All joking aside, the answer is "no" because Bethesda doesn't even allow talk about things you could freely do in F1 and 2 here, why would they even imply something worse in their own game?

Edit: Thanks for the double post, internet. Now how do I delete it? Done - Milt
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Post » Wed Nov 18, 2009 3:33 am

I think Bethesda really messed up by having Billy Creel NOT say "Eyyyy!" every time you initiate conversation with him.

So a little girl being a "trophy" means that you want to do her? So your saying that you want to bang every trophy you have? Gross. That brass can't feel good.
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Post » Wed Nov 18, 2009 10:35 am

i personally believe Billy was a raider, found maggie, killed her parents couldnt finish the job and took her in telling her only part of the truth.
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Post » Tue Nov 17, 2009 11:14 pm

i personally believe Billy was a raider, found maggie, killed her parents couldnt finish the job and took her in telling her only part of the truth.



That`s all it is and Moriarity intends to use that as a blackmail tool if he ever needs to. He`s waiting for the day he can say, "I`ll tell your adopted girl that you killed her parents if you don`t pay me lots of cash\shut up\do a crminal job for me."


That`s all it is. You guys look way too deeply into things.
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Post » Wed Nov 18, 2009 12:13 am

i personally believe Billy was a raider, found maggie, killed her parents couldnt finish the job and took her in telling her only part of the truth.

Her Parents stabbed him in the eye in defence?
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Post » Wed Nov 18, 2009 2:37 am

Her Parents stabbed him in the eye in defence?


I Do Fear To Ask with What....



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Post » Wed Nov 18, 2009 3:47 am

I Do Fear To Ask with What....



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...Let's say her Mother defended herself.

That will reduce it's...Thingy.
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Post » Wed Nov 18, 2009 9:30 am

they couldve been one of the braver ones to attempt to fight the raider/raiders off. Just my theory TBH, Maggies not a trophy, just a reminder to Billy that he used to be a monster and is trying to set things right to an extent of raising the child that was to young to remember her parents death.
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Post » Wed Nov 18, 2009 12:27 am

Billy can't be a raider, he knows most of the traders and he helps to keep the town supplied with his special offers from the traders he used to ride with.


I'm pretty sure that's exactly the opposite of what a raider do.
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Post » Tue Nov 17, 2009 11:04 pm

Maggie is about 12 (I think)
thats around 12 years for him to get on good terms with the traders and make up a good story for anyone that asks him. Besides I get great deals from them to it only cost me a couple thousand caps pretty sure a guy can take the spot of dealing with the caravans and set up special deals for Megaton
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Post » Wed Nov 18, 2009 2:44 am

Blah, if ya want to go with the Billy kill mommy theory, then it goes something like this:

He find the family attack and he try to be a hero. Either he did not kill the raider on time, friendly fire, or the person was a slaver and not a raider, thus killing the slaver if the slaver did kill the parents on front of Billy, and Billy have to lie so he will not have to mess with the rest of the slavers.
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Post » Wed Nov 18, 2009 12:29 am

Someone should go ask Bethesda about that like they did about Fawkes' gender...

"Billy Creel is definitely pedo/not pedo."


xD
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Post » Wed Nov 18, 2009 6:26 am

What probably really happened is he was passing through and spotted the Raiders at "play" before they saw him and waited until they got done and slunk in to scav what the Raiders didn't take....finding the kid, whom they had overlooked, and Maggie's doe-like eyes under the bed watching him pull her dad's boots gave him a sudden attack of conscience and he decided to take her in. Most people in the CW aren't going to take on Raiders unless thier own life is on the line....it's not like Billy's the LW, who walks into Evergreen Mills and wipes out a Raider army because he needs the Terrible Shotgun for his display of unique weapons. :P
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Post » Wed Nov 18, 2009 9:36 am

i think billy killed her parents because he wanted to raise a child, but i dont think he molests her....... or mabey she was an excuse for megaton to let him llive there
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Post » Wed Nov 18, 2009 7:23 am

Upon Billy's death, he may say "Maggie..." with his last breath.


This is good enough for me to believe he's not a pedo, as well as every other reason lucas. gave back on page 2 of this thread.
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