EA BioWare Working On Dragon Age 3 : Othor Games

» Tue Jul 06, 2010 1:36 pm

Assuming it's not released prior to 11/11/11, I doubt I'll even notice [its release]. And that's all to the good, as DA2 was repugnant.

Good news for DA fans though, I guess.

» Tue Jul 06, 2010 2:59 pm

Seriously? You think they'd learn after DA2. Or at least allow for more time before announcing it - you know, give people some time to forget just how terrible DA2 actually was.

I'm actually dreading ME3 at this rate. I used to love Bioware, but after EA bought them I've started losing all respect. ME2 wasn't as good as it's prequel, but it was still decent. I'm beginning to doubt I'll be able to say the same about ME3...

» Tue Jul 06, 2010 9:59 pm

This should come as no surprise, but it's the first official confirmation. I'm not really sure what to think. EA BioWare definitely needs to go back to the drawing board and reboot this series though. Can't get much worse than DA2.

It will take place in one room and any characters that Bioware liked, that you killed, will be retconned in. In fact, everything is being retconned back in. If you don't like it, we'll ban your games from entering our server, then you can't play! Isn't Project $10 great?

Step 1: Make a great game.
Step 2: Make a bad game and milk it because people liked the first one.
Step 3: Make a game thats not as good as the first but better than the second one so they can hype it up as "lesson learned" and "vast improvments".

There's no way in hell this series is now the spiritual successor series to the Baldur's Gate series and there's no way in hell I'm ever considering such a rushed piece of garbage product as the likely upcoming Dragon Age III to be the replacement for Baldur's Gate V. I actually thought Origins was pretty good, aside from a lot of technical issues and the seemingly most inefficient game engine ever to grace this console generation, but from what I've seen of II, I'm not happy, and the comments made by BioWare about sticking to II's formula and the rushed announcement of III pretty much confirms III won't be much better.

Maybe EA BioWare should take a step back for a while from this franchise. At this rate DA3 will see a release in 2012 and be even more gimped than DA2. I wouldn't be surprised to see this game be a GI cover reveal this year even.

Hopefully its not as bad as 2.

I've honestly just lost all respect for BioWare. Shame.
At least I still have their past works (read: good works) to play.

Can't wait for Rehashed Environments: Electric Boogaloo 2.

Bleh. Wake me up when Bioware's declared that Dragon Age 2 was meant to be a non-canon joke and that the real Dragon Age 2 will be done properly.

And then Veeno said, http://steelturman.typepad.com/thesteeldeal/images/2007/04/13/angry_cat_horror_scary_terror_stare.jpg. And there was, and all was well in the universe.

Anyway, I can't wait until DA3 gets released.

» Tue Jul 06, 2010 3:16 pm

Wow, you really are going to refer to them as EA Bioware. :rolleyes: That'll show em!

I haven't liked what I've played of DA2 so far, but when I first played DA:O I didn't like it either, and with Fallout 3 I didn't get into it until the 3rd time I tried playing it. :shrug: I don't judge games until I give them a fair shot.

» Tue Jul 06, 2010 5:19 pm

And then Veeno said, http://steelturman.typepad.com/thesteeldeal/images/2007/04/13/angry_cat_horror_scary_terror_stare.jpg. And there was, and all was well in the universe.

*Scans list-o-quotes*

*Is excluded from teh party*

What'd I ever do to you!? :cold:

» Tue Jul 06, 2010 8:44 am

Screw that, go back and make another expansion for DA:O.

Call it, Dragon Age: Apologies.

Anything short of that is not going to get me to buy another dragon age game.

» Tue Jul 06, 2010 11:55 am

Haven't played DA2, and most likely I'll never play it because it looks like crap...so no DA3 for me.

» Wed Jul 07, 2010 12:23 am

Seriously? You think they'd learn after DA2. Or at least allow for more time before announcing it - you know, give people some time to forget just how terrible DA2 actually was.

Well, to be fair, it's not really an official announcement, just a Twitter post from one of the devs. And it's not unusual for a company to begin work on a sequel so soon after release.

Still not holding my breath.

» Tue Jul 06, 2010 6:19 pm

Haven't played DA2, and most likely I'll never play it because it looks like crap...so no DA3 for me.

Buh... duh... puh.

Half-Life: Blue Shift svcks compared to Half-Life way more than DA2 svcks compared to DA:O. One game in a series doesn't mean anything.

» Wed Jul 07, 2010 12:39 am

Well, to be fair, it's not really an official announcement, just a Twitter post from one of the devs. And it's not unusual for a company to begin work on a sequel so soon after release.

Still not holding my breath.

Didn't Bethesda start working on Oblivion right after Morrowind was published?

» Tue Jul 06, 2010 3:43 pm

Didn't Bethesda start working on Oblivion right after Morrowind was published?

That's what they say.

» Tue Jul 06, 2010 10:15 pm

Buh... duh... puh.

Half-Life: Blue Shift svcks compared to Half-Life way more than DA2 svcks compared to DA:O. One game in a series doesn't mean anything.

Gearbox developed Blue Shift...

Didn't Bethesda start working on Oblivion right after Morrowind was published?

They did, but they didn't (even unofficially) announce it so early into development. That's years compared to months.

» Tue Jul 06, 2010 4:33 pm

Well, to be fair, it's not really an official announcement, just a Twitter post from one of the devs. And it's not unusual for a company to begin work on a sequel so soon after release.

Didn't they say from the start that they planned on it being a trilogy, or something? I could swear I heard that way back when DA:O came around. I'm mostly just confused as to why the news that a trilogy will have a third installment is surprising to anyone.

» Tue Jul 06, 2010 12:49 pm

Didn't they say from the start that they planned on it being a trilogy, or something? I could swear I heard that way back when DA:O came around. I'm mostly just confused as to why the news that a trilogy will have a third installment is surprising to anyone.

That I don't recall, and if that was indeed the plan, it's not really panning out, since events in DAO weren't that strongly connected to DA2, which in turn had nothing particularly noteworthy actually happen. If anything, the opposite was claimed, in that http://multiplayerblog.mtv.com/2009/02/11/why-dragon-age-isnt-a-trilogy/. A franchise, yes...but not a planned trilogy like ME.

» Tue Jul 06, 2010 4:43 pm

Gearbox developed Blue Shift...

Which is irrelevant to the sentence "One game in a series doesn't mean anything."

Also, Oblivion svcked major balls both with respect to the hype it received and with respect to Morrowind (yes, that's just IMHO, but it's an HO which is shared by lots of people, just as is the case for DA2) but I still can't wait for Skyrim to be released.

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That I don't recall, and if that was indeed the plan, it's not really panning out, since events in DAO weren't that strongly connected to DA2...

So... pretty much exactly as events in ME and ME2 and yet Mass Effect is to be a trilogy. I don't get your point.

» Tue Jul 06, 2010 9:04 am

That I don't recall, and if that was indeed the plan, it's not really panning out, since events in DAO weren't that strongly connected to DA2, which in turn had nothing particularly noteworthy actually happen. If anything, the opposite was claimed, in that http://multiplayerblog.mtv.com/2009/02/11/why-dragon-age-isnt-a-trilogy/. A franchise, yes...but not a planned trilogy like ME.

Huh, wonder where I got it then. Although, saying a game will NOT be a trilogy is an odd thing to just announce, so maybe there was a lot of that flying around and I caught wind of that but not the rebuttal.

» Tue Jul 06, 2010 12:11 pm

So... pretty much exactly as events in ME and ME2 and yet Mass Effect is to be a trilogy. I don't get your point.

Well, I can't really argue that (ME2 doesn't even have the advantage of being transitory), but it was a direct continuation of the arc that began in ME1 regardless, starring the same protagonist. DAO, however, wrapped up its story concerning the Blight, and DA2 told a completely different one about a completely different protagonist, and didn't really address any of the loose ends left over from Origins.

» Tue Jul 06, 2010 11:29 pm

Well, I can't really argue that (ME2 doesn't even have the advantage of being transitory), but it was a direct continuation of the arc that began in ME1 regardless, starring the same protagonist. DAO, however, wrapped up its story concerning the Blight, and DA2 told a completely different one about a completely different protagonist, and didn't really address any of the loose ends left over from Origins.

While it's true that they didn't have much tying them together (although from a causal perspective they actually did) and that DA:O and DA2 were pretty much dealing with their own stories, I still got a rather strong feeling that there was a greater master plot looming in the background of those two, so to speak. Especially with Leliana's appearance in DA2 and its ending. It's as if DA:O's and DA2's story are two shadows cast by a single master story.

» Tue Jul 06, 2010 3:20 pm

Maybe one day I'll beat DA2. It's not likely, though.

The fact that I really couldn't play a healer ruined the game for me. It's the only thing I really wanted to do.
Not to mention how bad some of the companions are. Personality and gameplay wise.

» Tue Jul 06, 2010 6:27 pm

While it's true that they didn't have much tying them together (although from a causal perspective they actually did) and that DA:O and DA2 were pretty much dealing with their own stories, I still got a rather strong feeling that there was a greater master plot looming in the background of those two, so to speak. Especially with Leliana's appearance in DA2 and its ending. It's as if DA:O's and DA2's story are two shadows cast by a single master story.

And for reasons explained http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1177639-dragon-age-origins-awakening-da2/page__view__findpost__p__17418755 (and elsewhere in that topic), I never once thought DA2 did a significant job moving the "master story" forward, and that it could be neatly skipped with no consequence.

» Tue Jul 06, 2010 9:54 pm

While it's true that they didn't have much tying them together (although from a causal perspective they actually did) and that DA:O and DA2 were pretty much dealing with their own stories, I still got a rather strong feeling that there was a greater master plot looming in the background of those two, so to speak. Especially with Leliana's appearance in DA2 and its ending. It's as if DA:O's and DA2's story are two shadows cast by a single master story.

A greater master plot your never going to see because there dangling a carrot in front of you.

Edit
I don't even think Origins did a good job with this alleged "master" "plot". It let us know there is one, but it hasn't so much as moved a millimeter. So what's the point of even having it? Dangle bait for people hoping that the series would get awesome?

» Tue Jul 06, 2010 11:14 pm

A greater master plot your never going to see because there dangling a carrot in front of you.

Well that would truly shatter my life. I think I'll just avoid any Dragon Age titles from now on as well because I just couldn't bear the blow of BioWare never revealing the master plot of it to me. For [censored]'s sake people we're talking about video games here, not potential spouses.

» Tue Jul 06, 2010 11:18 am

So now they're working on three games, huh?

» Tue Jul 06, 2010 4:49 pm

Well that would truly shatter my life. I think I'll just avoid any Dragon Age titles from now on as well because I just couldn't bear the blow of BioWare never revealing the master plot of it to me. For [censored]'s sake people we're talking about video games here, not potential spouses.

video games pretty much are spouses for some people

» Tue Jul 06, 2010 12:16 pm

video games pretty much are spouses for some people

Come on - we all know that can never work, because the game can't play the guy/girl to the end.