Hi guys

Anyone else feel a little disappointed with F4? I LOVED F3, put a lot of hours into it and as we all were was very excited when F4 came out... and i loved it.. for a while...

I'm finding nothing that gripping to do (I'm level 48 and have played it quite a bit), and find there aren't THAT many missions to get your teeth into, its mainly clearing gouls or raiders out fro settlements which is fine once but is doing my head in having to do it 2 /3 times - the SAME place that I've cleared, Im at the stage where I don't bother reporting to preston as Im sick of doing the same missions for him thats just respawned, and for this same reason I'm finding i don't just 'wander' around like I did in F3 as you stumble upon an area, wipe everyone out and loot it then person gives you a mission to clear the raiders there and you end up doing it again!!!

Anyone else finding this? not sure whether I was expecting too much as F3 blew me away when I played that as it was so unlike any other game id played before!

Ive even got a few poxy glitches that are crazy - such as I can't recruit Mel as he seems to have fallen down in the stands in the baseball arena - I can see him standing there but i can't get to him as its an area thats out of bounds, you can't shoot him or anything its odd - its been a while now so i can't see that fixing itself

Also got a glitch in Vault 81 where the classroom mission isn't starting - Ive tried waiting for school times etc but no joy

GRRR - sorry for the rant - anyone else experiencing the above or a bit underwhelmed?

Yup, all this and then some.

I haven't had any of those problems and I'm pretty far into the game in terms of hours played because by my estimation I've played probably 160 hours or so without completing a majority of the main quests.

But, to be fair...I like the Brotherhood of Steel recon missions and the "Cleansing the Commonwealth" and "Quartermastery" missions that repeat. I do them to level up my guy (level 67 so far) and get some loot to stock up my supply to fix my armor from adventuring and I find pretty cool things like a secret hidden room on top of Diamond City by parkouring around on top of the buildings and I found the RIPPER which has evaded me up until this point and I found a ring stand, a clothing iron and a bunch of other stuff I haven't seen!

Plus I found more hats, so I started a shelf above the bed to put my overflow of sweet hats....I think you need the game to talk to you, to grip you and to keep you company and that's why you're feeling disappointed.

Whereas others feel the same way you do, but others feel the same way I do as in there is just a world to explore, things to do and things to find! Go back and hunt all the expert / master safe's you couldn't crack earlier, rendezvous with a new companion you haven't used yet, carry them around and hear their comments during general missions, hunt down Behemoths!

Navigate the glowing sea and perhaps you'll get as lucky as me to take on a Behemoth, an Legendary Alpha Deathclaw and an Albino Deathclaw all at the same time! Find the Deathskull Radscorpion!

Lots of things to do...lots of things have fun and if you can't have fun, get Tom Clancy's The Division on Tuesday and play that until more DLC comes out for F04 and if you do get "The Division" I'll see you there!

Michael Epic rides again in the world of FPS

With over 500 hours in the game. Yeah, it not the best game, but I am satisfied. You know deep down you are too.

Fallout 4 does worst what it wanted to improve upon -the main plot- and the best what is hardly publicly mentioned - the environmental storytelling & exploration.

I started loving the game when I did my own thing in the world and stopped expecting to be vowed by the narrative of the Institute plotline.

Nope.

Fallout 3 hardly had 10 side missions... how can you be disappointed by 4 compared to that?

I think you'll get the best experience by completely ignoring radiant missions... pick 2-3 settlements that you really like and ignore all the others with their missions.

I have never touched a single one of those 'repetitive' missions and was still able to play for 200+ hours on my playthrough.

Love the game <3

On my first play through the Minutemen radiant quests really annoyed me as well. This is how I fixed that little problem:

1. Unlock a random settlement you do not care about. (Sunnyside coop is my choice).

2. Send Preston there.

3. Never return to that settlement...ever.

Another option is to do what I did on my second play through, which was to not complete the quest "When Freedom Calls". This makes it so he is always in the Museum of Freedom.

Anyways I did experience the exact type of "Disappointment" that you are experiencing and by moving Preston and then just doing whatever the hell I wanted, I really enjoyed the game.

Actually the opposite for me. They improved every single thing I had problems with in F3/NV. Not sure what the heck people were expecting.

That's an interesting point that I can agree with.

The actual gameplay in Fallout 4 is pretty top-notch, and the combat over-haul is exactly what I was expecting -- the narrative and writing, I was hoping for something adequate along the same lines as Fallout 1.

The quests will take you to quite few places, and even lead you to various parts of the map to some extent. That's less than half of what's out there, maybe much less than half, and just looking around will reveal all kinds of interesting stuff, you would not get to otherwise.

Vanilla FO3 vs Vanilla FO4, I think FO4 wins for me TBH.

Way more contents to enjoy in FO4.

FO3 All DLCs vs Vanilla FO4... I think FO4 still wins. lol




FO3 blew the mind of many of us... it really was something special back then.


...but we got older and game changed. Let`s hope the DLCs make FO4 better experience for all.



FO4 lost many old aspects.. I understand if some people find new things not good enough to replace old things that got lost in development.

First I gotta say I love fallout 4. Love a lot of what they've added. Yadda yadda yadda. That said yes I am a bit disappointed. Fo3 and FNV I never had a problem restarting a character and playing through all the sidequests and mainquests and re exploring. In Fo4 I don't see myself creating a new character. It just doesn't grip me the way they did previously. I can't even bring myself to complete the main quest. But eh. Whatya gonna do.

Can't say that I'm feeling that, especially compared to vanilla 3 which only had, what, 27 quests in the entire game?

and extremely limited enemy respawn mechanism.


I played first playthrough without using Fast travel because I DID NOT KNOW IT EXISTED !! lol

I didn`t mind traveling but continuously moving through underground metro station where there was nothing to kill really bored the hell out of me.

When I played 3 it was already the GOTY version. I probably wouldn't have liked vanilla. 4 already has far more to do.

Unfortunately Fallout 4 suffers from a similar issue in Skyrim in that it relies too heavily on radiant quests, though it seems far more excessive in FO4. To the point of which it is the majority of content you will ever get out of one of the main factions of the game. And even then, its also a significant amount of the content for a lot of the other factions as well.

Im a few hundred hours into the game too and haven't ran into any truly gamebreaking bugs for me. I love restarting and however start to get bored near level 40-whenever I end. The dlc's should add another few hours for me in terms of restarting and getting to those.

So tldr is basically after 400+ hours yeah im getting kinda tired after having ton of fun, and the dlcs, hell even 1.4 for ps4, will help a lot.

There are less quests than New Vegas and Skyrim. Vanilla Fallout 3? That game was bare bones quest-wise.

But I understand your sentiment, OP.

The game is very good, hoping DLC will make it great

how do people actually get themselves to play unmodded games for more than once?

Even in Skyrim... I never could do it. As much as you might make a different character, you will still have to run through the same locations and same quests as you did in previous playthroughs, won't you?

Mods were always the reason that made me replay F3, FNV and Skyrim, because they actually made those games feel fresh like if I would be playing a 'remake' of the game, that I knew.

Fallout 4 is the first game that I replayed once in its vanilla state... and that's only because there are two different voice characters. Listening to all the female dialogue, after already knowing how the other part was, was finally a good reason to replay the game, that the previous games didn't have.

Yeah its always the same and indeed I pretty much always approached things the same but it was always just fun to me.

When you play a FO game for the first time you don`t know the consequences of each decision you make,


in second play through you do. That`s what makes it vastly different and interesting regardless of mod.

Nope, not at all

FO4 has a decent story unlike FO3

I find it a pity that it ties you in to 1 starting identity so much (I don't always want to be Nate or Nora) but alternate start mods should help with that

I go read and watch the other consequences on the internet, after having finished each interesting quest :/

It would drive me crazy not knowing for weeks how they might turn out, if I had acted differently