I try to be as good natured as a Cyborg Deathclaw such as myself can be. I try not to murder, but I steal guns and other valuables, but only from rude people, and I do not consider killing [censored]s to be murder.

I always have trouble being an evil son-of-a-gun in gamesas games, the characterization is just too good, it goes against my every instinct to sell children to slavers or help a gang of convicts take over a town.

I did an FO3 "evil" run just for fun after I felt I'd seen everything else the game had to offer and I came away from every play session feeling, just... dirty.

Now that there are achievements for completing the legion playthrough I know I'm going to have to do it, I'm a score-[censored]. But I know it's going to be a deeply uncomfortable experience playing through as a marauding slave-trading jerk.

Same here, I can never harm an innocent person, mentally or physically. But if their evil, thats another story. :gun:

Oh, this old question... Hmm.

I am Carter Grey and I am a thief. I'm a damn good one too.
I've robbed the Silver Rush of every single gun and item in the store. While everyone was there, in the middle of the day. I take things from right beneath someone's nose. I do it constantly.
It's referred to as kleptomania, but I'm above such titles.
There's a catch though. I have a soft for people. I can never bring myself to end a life I don't have to, even when they deserve it. I gave Benny a chance at me in the arena.
I don't kill who I don't need to, it just isn't in my nature. I steal from beggars, merchants, soldiers. Anyone really.
I almost always make good moral choices, because I prefer that everyone prosper and the world flourishes again. I'm the bad guy who does things for the right reasons.

No, its all normal sane people.

I have a hard time being "Bad" as well. I am more like the charming rogue, as I will steal your pants off if I can make some cash off it:)

Haven't got the game yet (thought it should be coming in a couple of hours) so I guess only time will tell.
I have no problem in games like Fable 2 however. I enjoy murdering all those idiot AI who only seem to follow me around because they want to marry me.
At one point, I went to sleep in an inn, woke up to find the room and the way down the hallway paved with women and men who kept asking me to marry them.
I soon cut a bloody swathe through them with my longsword.

I know exactly what you mean. The saddest moment I've had in this game was the time I orphaned a coyote pup. A pup and a den mother don't look much different through a dusty scope from half a mile away. Kind of sad, though, when you go to find your dinner and instead find a lone coyote pup standing over his dead mother. It's the little things like that which set this game apart and immerse you in the experience. Most RPGs that have multiple paths and choices are fun to replay just to see how things could have turned out. But with this game, even if I make a second character, I know there are certain quest lines that I will never start. And I definitely won't be making another "raider"-type character like I did in Fallout 3. This game has got me rooting for the underdogs that I would normally be exploiting as an "evil" character.

Can't help it...naturally play 'good' characters. It's the sheepdog in me....Body count in F3 was around 2000 people when my original character 'retired'.

Did you read my response?

What if the game was programmed to show you the consequences of your thievery?
For example the beggar died because you stole his water money? And you learned it.

Or when you killed the bully of the town in order to help them and it resulted in someone worse rising to power and start killing towns folk? You taught you were doing them a favor.

Evil does not have boundaries. And it shouldn't have in a computer game like Fallout either.

You cannot really roleplay when the game content is lacking. You are simply hack&slashing in a different way.

I cannot and will not play an evil character. Legion playthrough achievements you say? I'll let a friend get them for me... :celebration:

Interesting way to look at it.

I believe Obsidian played at the emotions of your character very well, your actions have consequences like they did in Fallout 3 but there is a heightened sense of portrayal in a way that those consequences actually mean something, rather then a clear cut +/- of what you gain or achieve in the game.

Yes, it's going to be a rough second play through. Every RPG I've played with morality choices, the first go through I always play it as if it were me. So, go figure, I end up with a very good karma.

Second play through is always an evil bastard though, so we'll see how my evil bastard in FNV turns out.

I can't even bring myself to taking the Doc's stuff at the beginning even though it's doesn't hurt my karma.

Case in point earlier... My one char Sally Ann McGee... i promised myself id' side with the powder gangs and take over the town this time...

so I did.... big ol gunfight and everyone cept the shopkeep died... I left town after cobb congrats me and sends me over to the prison

I then did all the jobs for eddie... earn'd a nice rep with them and went on my way..

somewhere in there the ncr had a chat with me... said i need to fix my ways or else they wont be so polite. I told them I would

shortly after I end up back at the prison to talk to eddie and he tells me I was working against him and the entire prison tries to kill me off. that was a scary fight and I ended up way out at the hidden bunkers before I took most of them out. after a quick fix I strolled back over yonder the prison and scrambles was the only one who didnt chase me.... needless to say we finished that fight in the prison yard...

Anyways I had a real life realization that kinda sent this wierd moment... I was like holy crap I did all this for them and they tried to kill me in the end. wow i was dumb. ..

i shortly later ended up back in goodsprings low on ammo and supplys... so i go there.... anyways I saw doc and pete and trudy and cheyanne laying dead on the ground and idk... i just was like WTF ...why? what good did it do me... I walked right into the bar and attack'd cobb and his remaining men...

long story short the fight with cobb and his 2 remaining was so brutal it came down to me and cobb fist fighting in front of the saloon due to his gun being removed and my guns out of ammo... and we both were crippled bad...

so now i got an empty town with a shopkeep and 2 workers farming... i own the bar and docs house.... yeah... totally not worth it in the end. I liked everyone in that town....

If I see an NPC that I think is ugly, vulgar, annoying, or might be consorting with mole-rats to overtake Vegas.... well I flip a coin and if its heads I take theirs.

You should listen to the Mega Deth song "Dread and the Fugitive Mind"

This brings up my greatest frustration with a game.... Dragon Age: Origions. At one point a boy was possessed by a demon and massacring a town. The townsfolk wanted me to make it stop, but the nobility were crying that the poor innocent boy needed to be saved. Well I figured indulging such self-centered royals who preferred me going off to find a cure for him (allowing more killing of the townsfolk) over just lopping his head off and saving everyone a heap of grief would would be an evil choice. I was wrong and everyone got pissed off at me and I lost a ton of (karma) for doing the logical thing. I so wanted to massacre the [censored]s, but the stupid game would not let me target them. It was the only time I have actually contemplated punching my monitor in outrage!

In Fallout doing bad things means you see the results of your deprivation and that is hard for most people to swallow. When a game has no depth doing bad deeds has no real consequences and becomes acceptable...so you have to be willing to compartmentalize your compassion and svck it up.

I don't know, in real life I consider myself a good guy, and I was in fallout 3 too. But in New vegas it feels easier to steal from people for some reason?

I'm thinking it's because much of new vegas is a lot better off than the citizens of fallout 3, and a lot of the people i'd like to steal stuff from deserve it really anyway. (Silver rush)

The owners of the casinos make tenpenny look like he's living in a shack

It's hard to play the evil path because in this and also in fallout 3 so many things get closed of.

I always find my self good.

But not the "Eat your Wheaties and go to church!" boy scout type hero.

I play the anti-hero.

The tough guy wit good intentions.

i'm always evil, i can't help it honestly.

just because you're evil, doesn't mean that EVERYTHING you do is evil.

you should treat all opportunity's as tho you were good. act as tho you're friendly and willing to help, leaving npcs vulnerable or unaware to your true plans.

when the opportunity arises do what you want. be it rob them as they sleep or put a bullet in their dome for lols (grenade in the pants is always fun, too). just always make sure you walk away with something (ie quest reward, more caps, items)

-protip: if your planning on being evil for no reason you might as well be shooting yourself in the foot.

I went in completly ready to be a good person, but then I saw someone's outfit in good springs (you know the lady who gives you the tutorial) and couldn't stop blasting her head off. Then went back to town and killed everyone there and moved on. Been killing everyone I don't like or just want their outfit to toss in my trunk back at the lucky 38. No guilt just sweet fun. Naughty naughty me. :whistling:

You are a opportunist lol.

ehhh.. to a point.

i like knowing i wasted someone walking away thinking how that courier fellow was so friendly/helpful

murders come with smiles