Black face - what might cause it?

Post » Sun Aug 01, 2010 2:44 pm

After restarting the game with FWE 5.0/WMK/FOIP added I got http://i48.tinypic.com/2qd0pwo.jpg on Paul Hannon. The overseer also had weird eyes. Seems odd that FWE/WMK/FOIP would have anything to do with it, but I didn't have the issue earlier. I thought I'd live with it, but I've noticed that the black kid in Megatron also has it, so I wonder what it might be.

Here's my mod list/load order:

Fallout3.esmAnchorage.esmThePitt.esmBrokenSteel.esmPointLookout.esmZeta.esmHairday.esmCRAFT.esmCALIBR.esmFO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esmMart's Mutant Mod.esmStreetLights.esmDCInteriors_ComboEdition.esmDarNifiedUIF3.espStreetLights - Wasteland.espCASM.espGalaxyNewsRadio100[M].espBusworldV1.05d.espTrophies - Megaton.espFO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.espFO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Anchorage.espFO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Broken Steel.espFO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Mothership Zeta.espFO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Point Lookout.espFO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC The Pitt.espFO3 Wanderers Edition - Followers Enhanced (BrokenSteel).espZumbs'_Overhauled_Real_Time_Security.espTailor Maid.espWeaponModKits.espWeaponModKits - FWE Master Release.espWeaponModKits - OperationAnchorage.espWeaponModKits - ThePitt.espWeaponModKits - BrokenSteel.espWeaponModKits - PointLookout.espWeaponModKits - Zeta.espkikaiEquipment.espMart's Mutant Mod.espMart's Mutant Mod - DLC Anchorage.espMart's Mutant Mod - DLC The Pitt.espMart's Mutant Mod - DLC Broken Steel.espMart's Mutant Mod - DLC Point Lookout.espMart's Mutant Mod - DLC Zeta.espMart's Mutant Mod - FWE Master Release.espdD-No Screen Blood.espMark and recall.espMez's Merged Patch 5-0 - DLC-FWE-WMK-MMM.esp

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Post » Sun Aug 01, 2010 9:13 pm

After restarting the game with FWE 5.0/WMK/FOIP added I got http://i48.tinypic.com/2qd0pwo.jpg on Paul Hannon. The overseer also had weird eyes. Seems odd that FWE/WMK/FOIP would have anything to do with it, but I didn't have the issue earlier. I thought I'd live with it, but I've noticed that the black kid in Megatron also has it, so I wonder what it might be.

I suspect this may have been coded into the game in homage to popular singer from the 40's, Al Jolson.
http://www.musicweb-international.com/nostalgia/2004/Jan04/Al_Jolson_CDAJS272.gif
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Post » Sun Aug 01, 2010 12:42 pm

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_xIIZH3vQ75I/SusP3A4IfxI/AAAAAAAAA30/nTliVOaZXm0/s400/al%2Bjolson%2Bblack%2Bface.jpg
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Post » Mon Aug 02, 2010 12:04 am

I don't think I've encountered "black faces" but I did encounter "black bodies" which was caused by dirty edits to 'race' entries (no jokes please...). Have you tried remove the 'designer' merge patch you are using?
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Post » Sun Aug 01, 2010 3:13 pm

There are a few mentions in the comments section for A Good Hair Day of people having weird eyes. Try disabling it temporarily and see if that fixes it. I use most of the same mods in your list (and I've used Mez's Merged Patch) and haven't experienced this, but I use HairPack instead of A Good Hair Day.
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Post » Sun Aug 01, 2010 9:04 pm

Pay not attention to my post, but I wanted to mention a few things :bigsmile:

In your load order, you have these loaded like this:
FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Anchorage.esp
FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Broken Steel.esp
FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Mothership Zeta.esp
FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Point Lookout.esp
FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC The Pitt.esp

May I be so bold to suggest you reorder them like this (as you have with the others)?
[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Anchorage.esp
[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC The Pitt.esp
[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Broken Steel.esp
[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Point Lookout.esp
[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Mothership Zeta.esp

I also noticed that you have the http://www.fallout3nexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=5424 mod. There are DLC's and a Black Retex available in case you weren't aware :)
[X] Tailor Maid.esp
[X] Tailor Maid Black Retex.esp
[X] Tailor Maid Anchorage.esp
[X] Tailor Maid PITT.esp
[X] Tailor Maid Brokensteel.esp
[X] Tailor Maid ZETA.esp
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Post » Sun Aug 01, 2010 6:09 pm

There are a few mentions in the comments section for A Good Hair Day of people having weird eyes. Try disabling it temporarily and see if that fixes it. I use most of the same mods in your list (and I've used Mez's Merged Patch) and haven't experienced this, but I use HairPack instead of A Good Hair Day.


Thanks for the tip, I'll do that. Hairday seems like a likely culprit, but I had it during the last playthrough as well and didn't notice this - which is why I thought it might be something else. Perhaps I just missed it. The weird eyes seem to affect (some) elderly people - yesterday I noticed that Tinker Joe also has them.

EDIT: Switching from Hairday to FACE2 fixed it. :) At least, Tinker Joe has normal eyes again. Haven't found that black kid in Megaton to check him - but I guess it was caused by the same issue.

Pay not attention to my post, but I wanted to mention a few things :bigsmile:

In your load order, you have these loaded like this:
FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Anchorage.esp
FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Broken Steel.esp
FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Mothership Zeta.esp
FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Point Lookout.esp
FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC The Pitt.esp

May I be so bold to suggest you reorder them like this (as you have with the others)?
[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Anchorage.esp
[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC The Pitt.esp
[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Broken Steel.esp
[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Point Lookout.esp
[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Mothership Zeta.esp

I also noticed that you have the http://www.fallout3nexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=5424 mod. There are DLC's and a Black Retex available in case you weren't aware :)
[X] Tailor Maid.esp
[X] Tailor Maid Black Retex.esp
[X] Tailor Maid Anchorage.esp
[X] Tailor Maid PITT.esp
[X] Tailor Maid Brokensteel.esp
[X] Tailor Maid ZETA.esp


Thanks for pointing that out. I'm using BOSS F to sort the load order and I'm pretty sure it got it right before - this must have snuck in with the latest update of it. Also, thanks for the tip on Tailor Maid - I'll add those.
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