Black Screen Freeze : IV

» Sat Feb 19, 2011 3:58 am

I'm in the Chorrol Fighter's Guild, and I can't leave the building because I get a full black screen after I use a door to the city and it loads. I've had crashes before with this load order, but they have all been random and non-repeatable.

Spoiler

Oblivion.esm
HorseCombatMaster.esm
Armamentarium.esm
Artifacts.esm
Kvatch Rebuilt.esm
Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp
Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp
DLCShiveringIsles.esp
UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp
Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp
Natural_Weather_HDR_by_Max_Tael.esp
Natural_Water_by_Max_Tael.esp
Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esp
Natural_Vegetation_by_Max_Tael.esp
bgMagicEV.esp
bgMagicEVShader.esp
TNR ALL RACES FINAL.esp
Inebriation.esp
GlenvarCastle.esp
VaultsofCyrodiil.esp
Artifacts.esp
EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer.esp
EVE_ShiveringIslesEasterEggs.esp
Quest Award Leveling.esp
DeadlyReflex 5 - Combat Moves.esp
SSEE.esp
Extra Robe Pack.esp
Living Economy - Items.esp
Living Economy - SI.esp
Lost Paladins of the Divines.esp
Kvatch Rebuilt.esp
TRN One of the Gang.esp
ArmamentariumLL.esp
ArmamentariumLLMagic.esp
ArmamentariumLLArmaVendor.esp
ArmamentariumArtifacts.esp
Armamentium female.esp
Artifacts - ArmaCompleteAddon.esp
ArtifactsFemaleArmor.esp
Oblivion Vwalk UOS.esp
DLCShiveringIsles Vwalk UOS.esp
DLCShiveringIsles Vwalk DG_DS UOS.esp
TNR ALL RACES FINAL Vwalk UOS.esp
Kvatch Rebuilt Vwalk.esp
GlenvarCastle Vwalk.esp
bgMagicEV Vwalk.esp

Thanks for helping.

» Fri Feb 18, 2011 11:47 pm

Your load order is a mess. Sort it.

Load Ordering - http://sites.google.com/site/oblivionpoinfo/finishinstall/loadorder
Popular Outdated Mods - http://sites.google.com/site/oblivionpoinfo/stabilization/outdatedmods <-- you have a few of these
Stabilization Mods - http://sites.google.com/site/oblivionpoinfo/stabilization/stabilizationmods <-- If you have an nVidia card, grab the black screen fixes

» Fri Feb 18, 2011 11:59 pm

OK, disabled the natural weather, vegetation, and habitats esps. Put in both black screen fixes (I run an 8800). Crashes still persist. I can enter and exit other areas of the interior freely, like the basemant, but just not outside. Updated load order:

Spoiler

Oblivion.esm
Armamentarium.esm
Artifacts.esm
Kvatch Rebuilt.esm
HorseCombatMaster.esm
TNR ALL RACES FINAL.esp
nVidia Black Screen Fix.esp
Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp
UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp
DLCShiveringIsles.esp
Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp
Oblivion Vwalk UOS.esp
DLCShiveringIsles Vwalk UOS.esp
DLCShiveringIsles Vwalk DG_DS UOS.esp
TNR ALL RACES FINAL Vwalk UOS.esp
Natural_Water_by_Max_Tael.esp
Inebriation.esp
Living Economy - SI.esp
Living Economy - Items.esp
EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer.esp
ArtifactsFemaleArmor.esp
Extra Robe Pack.esp
Armamentium female.esp
ArmamentariumLL.esp
ArmamentariumLLMagic.esp
ArmamentariumArtifacts.esp
ArmamentariumLLArmaVendor.esp
Artifacts.esp
Artifacts - ArmaCompleteAddon.esp
Kvatch Rebuilt.esp
Kvatch Rebuilt Vwalk.esp
GlenvarCastle.esp
GlenvarCastle Vwalk.esp
VaultsofCyrodiil.esp
Lost Paladins of the Divines.esp
BlackScreenSneakFix.esp
EVE_ShiveringIslesEasterEggs.esp
Quest Award Leveling.esp
SSEE.esp
TRN One of the Gang.esp
DeadlyReflex 5 - Combat Moves.esp
bgMagicEV.esp
bgMagicEVShader.esp
bgMagicEV Vwalk.esp

If its important, I'm also using Qarl's TP3. Thanks again for the help.

» Fri Feb 18, 2011 11:54 pm

Those do not fix crashes, only the black screen issue. Do not just disable the mods I pointed out. Uninstall them. That is not the same thing. Also, you do not have to uninstall the Natural Habitat.

Regenerate the Oblivion.ini - http://sites.google.com/site/oblivionpoinfo/troubleshooting/regenoblivionini <-- and apply the recommended tweaks afterward
K-Lite - http://www.codecguide.com/download_kl.htm <-- try resetting your codecs
Clean Boot - http://support.microsoft.com/kb/310353
Game Booster - http://www.iobit.com/gamebooster.html <-- use this to turn off unnecessary background processes before playing

Replace Quest Award Leveling with Quest Award Leveller - http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=13536 <-- I'll add "Leveling" to the Popular Outdated Mods page

» Sat Feb 19, 2011 3:10 am

I've completely uninstalled the Natural Environments package (I'll probably get something like All natural after I figure this out) and Craftybits, as I wasn't using it. Replaced the quest award leveling and regenerated my ini as you said, and the game still freezes and forces me to ctrl alt delete out and end the process. Anyway, I loaded an earlier save, and now everything works fine. Can't believe I didn't think of that sooner. Thank you very much for the help, and your website is very useful.

» Sat Feb 19, 2011 5:06 am

I've completely uninstalled the Natural Environments package (I'll probably get something like All natural after I figure this out) and Craftybits, as I wasn't using it. Replaced the quest award leveling and regenerated my ini as you said, and the game still freezes and forces me to ctrl alt delete out and end the process. Anyway, I loaded an earlier save, and now everything works fine. Can't believe I didn't think of that sooner. Thank you very much for the help, and your website is very useful.

Good to hear. Remember, do not use Oblivion's quick save and autosaves. Use Streamline's instead. My favorite feature of that mod is the timed autosaving, by the way...

Happy gaming!
- Tomlong75210

Edit: FYI: Streamline's quicksave option is safe.

» Sat Feb 19, 2011 9:21 am

Good to hear. Remember, do not use Oblivion's quick save and autosaves. Use Streamline's instead. My favorite feature of that mod is the timed autosaving, by the way...

Happy gaming!
- Tomlong75210

Edit: FYI: Streamline's quicksave option is safe.

Where do I find this? I've heard you talk about this before and now I'm curious.

» Fri Feb 18, 2011 6:33 pm

Read the "Stabilization Mods" page.

» Fri Feb 18, 2011 9:42 pm

WOW so I installed this and i notice a very noticeable change in the game. There is all most no stuttering now.