Black texture problem : IV

» Wed Mar 09, 2011 10:32 am

I just installed Banasplit's Better Cities after installing RAEVWD.

When I installed RAEVWD I wasn't having this issue, but after installing BBC, this started to happen:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=typg-Yc9cOQ

Everything is black when looking straight at it after a certain distance, but looks fine if I look down after a certain angle.

Has anyone else experienced this?

Things I have tried:

removing all Banasplit files. The esms, esps, and .bsas.

Re-running tes4lodgen

reinstalling RAEVWD files over the old texture files

making sure archive invalidation was invalided

rebuilding bashed patch

Here is the list of mods I'm currently running:

Spoiler

Oblivion.esm
underdark.esm
Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm
CM Partners.esm
UnnecessaryViolence.esm
John's Leveled List Overhaul.esm
ScreenEffects.esm
TRoN.esp
Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp
DLCShiveringIsles.esp
ChaseCameraMod.esp
ScreenControls.esp
Spears of Cyrodiil.esp
Underworld Armor.esp
Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp
John's Leveled List Overhaul.esp
John's Leveled List Overhaul - Cyrodillic Armors.esp
John's Leveled List Overhaul - Vanilla Weapons.esp
John's Leveled List Overhaul for OOO.esp
John's Leveled List Overhaul - Bandits in Glass Begone.esp
BladeOfTheHaunted.esp
BladeSong.esp
LordKain_Adash_World.esp
Cyrodiil Travel Services.esp
Alternative Start by Robert Evrae.esp
John's Leveled List Overhaul - Vanilla Armours.esp
WPHealthRegen.esp
SupremeMagicka.esp
SM_NoPoisonLevitationEffects.esp
Bald_Hairstyle.esp
CM Partners.esp
RavenCM2.esp
1em_Vilja.esp
UnnecessaryViolence.esp
StokerWolff.esp
Bashed Patch, 0.esp
Leviathan Armory.esp

I'm really hoping that this is something simple that others have experienced before with an easy fix.

» Wed Mar 09, 2011 12:41 pm

When I got black textures, on some buildings and once the entire sky, I'm pretty sure it was due to Oblivion trying to load 1100mb of textures on my 1gb video card. When I'd reload a save they'd go away. Your problem seems to be different, since the texture does show up at certain angles, so I guess black textures don't always necessarily mean the same thing. Though I could be wrong about my texture memory assumption, I guess. From what I've read I think the cause(s) of black textures remain a mystery, though I hope someone can be more helpful.

» Wed Mar 09, 2011 1:38 am

RAEVWD is not compatible with Better Cities, as it states in the ReadMe and the RAEVWD thread. You can use it, but don't activate the city esps.
Did you run TES4LODGen after installing RAEVWD?

» Wed Mar 09, 2011 8:08 am

Yes I ran lodgen after installing raevwd and it worked fine. I ran it again after installing better cities and that's when the problems started.

I uninstalled better cities and ran it again but the problem is persisting.

» Wed Mar 09, 2011 4:34 am

Oh I see, so you want RAEVWD? I don't see the esps active in your load order so wasn't sure. That's probably the problem.

If you're not using BC then activate the RAEVWD cities.esp and Imperial City.esp. Also the New Sheoth.esp if you want it in Shivering Isles too. Run BOSS, rebuild your Bashed patch then run LODGen again. Should set it all right.

» Wed Mar 09, 2011 5:01 am

Are you using Bloom lighting? If so , consider switching to HDR; the black VWD problem is rather notorious for happening very often with Bloom lighting.

» Tue Mar 08, 2011 10:32 pm

I would recommend you clear the Distantlod folder if you remove mods and run lodgen again.

» Tue Mar 08, 2011 11:10 pm

Are you using Bloom lighting? If so , consider switching to HDR; the black VWD problem is rather notorious for happening very often with Bloom lighting.

Figured it would be something stupidly simple. Thanks so much.

As for not having the esps... whoops >>

Thanks for the help guys!

Yeah I did read the readme correctly regarding the esps:

"01 City Plugins - The ESPs used to provide VWD for buildings in the Imperial City and the outlying cities. Both of these are entirely optional."

I will delete distandlod and refill it though.

» Wed Mar 09, 2011 12:40 pm

Figured it would be something stupidly simple. Thanks so much.

As for not having the esps... whoops >>

Thanks for the help guys!

Yeah I did read the readme correctly regarding the esps:

"01 City Plugins - The ESPs used to provide VWD for buildings in the Imperial City and the outlying cities. Both of these are entirely optional."

I will delete distandlod and refill it though.

Did this work?? The changing bloom to HDR? Because I have this problem too.

For the record, running REAVWD and Better cities is ok when you don't use the .esps, because (as far as I am aware) TES4LODGEN just generates everything based on the physical distantLOD files in the folders, whilst the REAVWD.esps add these meshes to the cities because Bethesda didn't put houses everywhere.

Arthmoor would know best, but it is safe to run REAVWD and Better Cities, providing you just install the meshes. Better Cities have their own meshes, so you'll see them too.

» Wed Mar 09, 2011 3:06 am

Did this work?? The changing bloom to HDR? Because I have this problem too.

For the record, running REAVWD and Better cities is ok when you don't use the .esps, because (as far as I am aware) TES4LODGEN just generates everything based on the physical distantLOD files in the folders, whilst the REAVWD.esps add these meshes to the cities because Bethesda didn't put houses everywhere.

Arthmoor would know best, but it is safe to run REAVWD and Better Cities, providing you just install the meshes. Better Cities have their own meshes, so you'll see them too.

Correct, only the RAEVWD ESPs should not be used with BC, all the meshes are fine to use.

» Wed Mar 09, 2011 9:30 am

Correct, only the RAEVWD ESPs should not be used with BC, all the meshes are fine to use.

using RAEVWD (without city esp's) and BBC together do not work / look well when Blood and Mud is used....this includes Bravil and some castle meshes....

cheers

» Wed Mar 09, 2011 12:37 pm

So much time could have been saved by checking the readme

And the included FAQ as well.

Same for the subject of the ESPs and BC.

Seriously people. Read them. We write this stuff for a reason!

» Wed Mar 09, 2011 1:30 am

As I stated above I read the readmes.

My issue was with Bloom lighting. When I switched to HDR the issue went away.

» Wed Mar 09, 2011 6:54 am

As I stated above I read the readmes.

My issue was with Bloom lighting. When I switched to HDR the issue went away.

Right, you're issue was with Bloom lighting. We understand that. Below, an exert from the RAEVWD ReadMe file...

Known Issues
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When used with bloom lighting, the VWD objects may always show up as black. Provided you are *SURE* the lowres directory is in the right place in your textures directory, the only fix for this is to switch to a different lighting method. I'm not sure if normal lighting works, but switching to HDR will resolve this issue. There is no known way to fix this otherwise.

So as Arthmoor stated, reading the documentation would have saved you quite a bit of time and you would have avoided unnecessary troubleshooting.