I wasn't aware that people born in Germany or the American South (that is correct? Not being an American your history is lost on me) were born with an actual biological need to fight and be in-charge which only centuries of constant meditation could suppress.

The biggest contridiction of all is that the Blades say earlier in the game that it is their duty and destiny to help and support the Dragonborn. It's only later in the game where they decide that they're dragon Killers and can't abide Parthunax's existance. It's stupid that,even if you refuse to kill him that they refuse to acknowlege you, or want you around in their temple when it's there duty to be helping you.

Go to the other thread and read my post on why it's perfectly acceptable for them to distrust you. It's not a contradiction, it's common sense. They want the Dragon-Born to be the best Dragon-Slayer, that's why they follow the Dragon-Born. If you aren't going to slay Dragons because of personal feelings then you aren't a suitable leader, your biased and unreliable and would in-fact be using the Blades as pawns if they continued to follow you regardless.

Not to take the anology any further, but going on a tangent -- Paarthurnax was among the first (along with Kyne) to help teach man how to shout back and defend themselves against dragons. He may have to constantly suppress a biological need, but he recognized early on that he should help man against the dragons, and has done so. Even if all the majority of dragons need to be slain because they can't control themselves, that's no reason to kill those that are going well out of their way to help and try to be peaceful. I haven't yet gotten to the point in the MQ where I could actually talk with him, though, so perhaps there's things I'm missing.

According to one of the lore books, the Dragonguard, (and presumably the blades) operate under something called "the oath of allegiance." Under the oath of allegiance, they chose to defy an order from the Emperor (I believe Reman), and presumably, could defy any order the Dragonborn gives that goes beyond the provisions of the oath of allegiance, or would make them violate other oaths.

Well remembered, it comes from the book:

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Annals_of_the_Dragonguard

So no one should ever strive to become better or overcome their darker natures, they should give in to the dark side and kill unabashedly like they're supposed to. Can't quite agree with you there.


On another note, what sort of message are you sending to the other dragons. "Hey that Parthurnaax guy helped out the humans, and they turned around and killed him. Why bother attempting to be peaceful?"

On a bit of an off topic, I've seen nothing to suggest Parth is being anything but on the level with us. He's been resting on a remote mountain-top, in completely seclusion, teaching a group of old mean how *not* to use their powers for the past several thousand years. Furthermore, after the main quest, he's going to be one of the last two Dragons. Destroying him is like destroying a priceless work of art, or history. So much knowledge, lost, simple because people fear something me *might* do, even though he's given every indication that he has no desire, or intention for conquest or domination. On another note, he's only one Dragon. Old, yes, powerful, yes, but there's a limit to the amount of damage he can do before he's stopped.

I let him live.

If he decides to pull any B.S. in the future, I'll be ready.

Simple as that.

What better way to control the dangerous Nords that have learned the Thu'um than teaching them a new philosophy to never use it in violence?

Granted, he does teach the player Dragonrend, but that could just be a manipulation. It's too early to say either way if Parthurnax is truly redeemed or not. I agree with you about killing him though, and when you go to Angvier after he summarizes the disgusting act you've done quite nicely.

Also, "he's going to be one of the last two Dragons." What indication is there of that?

He was the one that helped teach them Thu'um in the first place. It was Jurgen Windcaller that came up with the idea to use it only for non-violence.

Oh right. My mistake. Still stands to reason that he gains from furthering Windcaller's ideology though.

What exactly would an old man and one warrior really contribute to the dragonborn's cause that a master of the thu'um couldn't? Paarthanax can teach so much to the protagonist, using 60 words you can slay wannabe gods, Imagine what you could do with a couple of years of study under a master.

Also do you actually get anything from the remaining blades? I totally forgot about them after i met the friendly dragon

You get to recruit three companions that then hang out at the Blades hideout, and then apparently Esbern gives you locations of dragons that you and the new Blades eliminate.

The argument of "Yeah, but what if the dragons don't listen to him?" makes sense but then, what if they do? If you kill him, you immediately negate any chance of trying to sway the dragons to a different cause. With him alive, there's at least a chance that dragons will follow suit otherwise they'll just continue on their path of destruction for the most part.
He represents a possible change for the path of the dragons. Is it right to stop that from happening? The Blades failed on a number of occasions. They failed to protect the Emperor, they failed to even halt the oncoming Aldmeri Dominion. It's clear that if they want to survive then they need to make some changes. Remaining single-minded and bullheaded certainly isn't the right way to go about it.

Do I've pretty much figured out who I'm going to side with when first meeting "Parry" he's a cool... scaled cat.

My one question though, are there any big perks or loot I'd be missing out by going beards way? I would really like to get hold of the ol blades armor myself, it looks so much better in this fire-lit Skyrim light.

You can get the Blades armour even if you decide not to kill Paarthy. There's a full set lying around somewhere in the HQ.

Outstanding, I'm gonna look just like 'ol Kiin himself when I tackle 'ol Aldy through the time warp. It'll be like an excellent adventure dude!

You don't think this is what he wants? Do remember his welcome speech? In delaying the end, we are only hastening it, and vice-verse. We accomplished exactly what the Dagonites of 200 years past wanted: we broke the crown of Akatosh. Mankind's place in the Time God is fading.

There would be no Dragonborn if there wasn't a Paarthurnax.

Wha? Really though, mankind, well, mortals, have a special place in Akatosh's heart. He'll step up and put them back in his special witness protection program where big players might try to knock off the favorite children, but Akatosh, pretty much being the "king-god" will put those perpetrators in their place, and protect his children. He's done ir time after time, he'll do it again. When the final breaking point actually does surmise his "time-champion" will arise, and the convenant will probably be renewed.

Kill Alduin, and listen to what Paarthurnax has to say about the two.

Or given that most people whom let Paarthurnax live have already heard it you could post what he says for our convenience?

It isn't in the wiki yet, and I'm not going to screw with Skyrim, at 2 o'clock in the morning. Sorry, but that's my excuse.

He names Alduin the crown of Akatosh, the "crown" is a king's authority. We killed it. (Needless to say, this is from memory, and mine is very malleable.)

So, I will hazard a theory; Akatosh has been beaten, and the King of Alinor is free of his mirror-twin's influence on Time. The statue in Cyrodiil can look pretty, all it wants.

Fair enough, nor I at 10-to-seven.