Bleargh.... Friggin Crashes... : IV

» Fri Oct 09, 2009 7:14 pm

Well, I give up on this one. Every time I try to load Oblivion after I've started Firefox, not only does the game load slower, but it crashes every time I try to go outside (exterior cell partially loads, then game goes kablooie, and I also lose my display settings forcing a computer restart). This does not happen if I start Oblivion before Firefox.

This also seems to be the only game being affected by this, Morrowind, Fallout 3, etc. do not suffer from this problem.

If it helps, here's my Mod LO, but I doubt they are the problem, since I was able to replicate the loading slowdown on a Vanilla install:

You know, I think the moment I can afford it, I'm gonna ditch Steam and get a disc copy to see if that helps any.

Spoiler

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» Fri Oct 09, 2009 9:38 am

Oblivion is heavily processor dependent, and doesn't make use of multicores worth a darn. Any programs running in the background are going to give oblivion are hard time. Why would you want to run FireFox in the background when trying to play?

» Fri Oct 09, 2009 9:07 am

Oblivion is heavily processor dependent, and doesn't make use of multicores worth a darn. Any programs running in the background are going to give oblivion are hard time. Why would you want to run FireFox in the background when trying to play?

That's the thing.

I always close all my background processes before booting Oblivion. That includes Firefox. That's why I'm also wondering if Steam might be the problem here, since I'm forced to leave it open when I play.

» Fri Oct 09, 2009 4:39 am

Ah, something sticking in memory perhaps? What version of firefox?

» Fri Oct 09, 2009 8:15 am

I'm on Firefox 3.6.10 right now.

» Fri Oct 09, 2009 6:52 am

There aren't any glaring issues that I am aware of... but, that doesn't mean they don't exist. Kind of a pain, but, I used to reboot my machine right before I fired off the game. Restart, log in, give it a couple minutes to sort itself out, (there are processes that run at startup, and then stop.... wanna wait for those to finish.) then play. Your system is significantly more robust than mine was at the time....... Could try a utility like game booster, or some such..... not sure how effective it would be, but, might be worth a shot.

» Fri Oct 09, 2009 12:28 pm

There aren't any glaring issues that I am aware of... but, that doesn't mean they don't exist. Kind of a pain, but, I used to reboot my machine right before I fired off the game. Restart, log in, give it a couple minutes to sort itself out, (there are processes that run at startup, and then stop.... wanna wait for those to finish.) then play. Your system is significantly more robust than mine was at the time....... Could try a utility like game booster, or some such..... not sure how effective it would be, but, might be worth a shot.

Logical enough. Like I said, so long as I don't load any other programs before firing up Oblivion, I can play just fine. I also have Game Booster installed, although I haven't been using it of late.

Thanks for the assistance! :foodndrink:

» Fri Oct 09, 2009 12:03 pm

I run my machine pretty clean to begin with, so, game booster did not do anything at all for me..... and its claims of 'clearing memory' didn't prove too accurate either..... I tried multiple configurations, and, using it didn't alter my mem usage at all, nor did it free up any memory. It would kill off like three services..... and that was it. Performance boost was non-existent. On a fairly 'stock' machine, (I.E. not tweaked quite so heavily as mine) it may have more of an impact. Don't really know for sure.